afflicted by the "green-eyed monster!"

On 7 Apr 2007 08:12:50 -0700, "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote:

>On Apr 8, 2:37 am, Lecherous Old Dog <lecherouso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 6 Apr 2007 11:21:19 -0700, "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote:
>>
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>>
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>> >On Apr 5, 12:43 pm, "Kula" <s...@spammers.com> wrote:
>> >> "Daniel Kessler" <dkess...@pop.cybernex.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:46138D97.A6A11420@pop.cybernex.net...
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>> >> > there are some on this diving board who are afflicted by the "green-eyed
>> >> > monster!"
>>
>> >> > No, it is not a creature from the deep! It is a creature that lies in
>> >> > the heart of man...it is called jealousy!
>>
>> >> > Shakespeare in "Otello" speaks of it when Iago says".
>>
>> >> > "Jealousy... that green-eyed monster that mocks the very meat that it
>> >> > feeds upon."
>>
>> >> > You know the routine..."green with envy!"
>>
>> >> > That helps explain the often "mocking tone" of Greg's posts here.
>>
>> >> "Jealousy," I love that song! Who's it by, Natalie Merchant, I think.
>>
>> >Hey, just the guy I wanted to hear from. I've got you two free adult
>> >admissions to the Maui Ocean Center a week from today, plus 50% off
>> >for the kids. All you have to do is hop over to Maui and meet us at
>> >the Ocean Center front door by 8 a.m. We're going diving in the tank
>> >with their new tiger shark.
>>
>> >We're connecting in HNL on our way in Thursday night, so look for my
>> >wave!
>>
>> >(After the shark dive on Friday morning, we're doing a dusk/night 2-
>> >tank dive that night, a 2-tank Lanai dive on Saturday morning, and a 1-
>> >tank scooter dive to a manta cleaning station on Saturday afternoon.
>> >My cousin's wedding is on Sunday and we're heading to their BBQ on
>> >Saturday night, so that's all the diving we can fit it in before we
>> >leave )
>>
>> I'm afraid we will have to decline. The wife and I just got back from
>> 4 days on Lana'i and that took care or our travel budget for quite
>> some time. What a great island but mind boggling expensive.
>
>I thought 95% of it was planted in pineapples. Sounds great if you
>like pineapples, I guess. That's too bad about your travel budget,
>but precisely why I was offering free admission. Can't you get a
>kamaina rate on the air fare? I can try to help you crash the wedding
>for free food, and you can sleep on the beach or on my lanai.
>
>Do you realize how frustrating it is to have free tickets to the Ocean
>Center and not be able to give them away? Maybe I'll offer them to
>Daniel Kessler.


Sorry. We still got a two-week trip to Australia in June. (Daughter's
swim meet.) Could I cop some slack by telling you my son has a
Birthday Party he promised to attend? Kid's change one's prioritiies.


kula

On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, Kula <eeolson-(at)-hawai-(dot)-rr-(dot)-com> wrote:

> >Do you realize how frustrating it is to have free tickets to the Ocean
> >Center and not be able to give them away? Maybe I'll offer them to
> >Daniel Kessler.
>
> Sorry. We still got a two-week trip to Australia in June. (Daughter's
> swim meet.) Could I cop some slack by telling you my son has a
> Birthday Party he promised to attend? Kid's change one's prioritiies.

Alright then. I'll take a rain check. Besides, I'm done with Maui as
well as the Kauai and the Big Island. The one main island I haven't
dove is Oahu (I'm skipping Molokai, having heard the diving ain't so
hot there, and the boat trip from Kauai to dive off Niihau doesn't
sound very fun). We actually tried to stay in Oahu in December, but
ended up in Maui again because I couldn't find a single Starwood hotel
room in Honolulu - it was the triple draw of a Pearl Harbor
anniversary, the Honolulu Marathon, and a U2 concert all on one
weekend.

But my next trip there, I promise to stay on Waikiki and give you
absolutely no excuse to avoid me.

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, Kula <eeolson-(at)-hawai-(dot)-rr-(dot)-com> wrote:

>
> Alright then. I'll take a rain check. Besides, I'm done with Maui as
> well as the Kauai and the Big Island. The one main island I haven't
> dove is Oahu (I'm skipping Molokai, having heard the diving ain't so
> hot there, and the boat trip from Kauai to dive off Niihau doesn't
> sound very fun). We actually tried to stay in Oahu in December, but
> ended up in Maui again because I couldn't find a single Starwood hotel
> room in Honolulu - it was the triple draw of a Pearl Harbor
> anniversary, the Honolulu Marathon, and a U2 concert all on one
> weekend.
>
> But my next trip there, I promise to stay on Waikiki and give you
> absolutely no excuse to avoid me.
>

Fair enough!

First, If you haven't been to Niihau, you must go. Yes, the boat ride will
be a trip to remember but the diving will be the best you have ever known in
Hawaii.

Second, Lanai used to be the "Pineapple Isle" but all pineapple production
ceased completely and suddenly in 1995. Dole Pineapple then sold the island
(or the 95% of it that it owned) to a private company. That private company
has built two very fine resorts and a couple of dozen multi-million $
mansions. Otherwise it has left the island undeveloped. There are 350
hotel rooms and 3000 locals, almost all of whom work for Castle&Cook. They
went from being a plantation island that farmed pineapples to a plant ion
island that farms the rich and famous. It is the kind of place you go to
get away from hoi polloi, but you must pay for that privilege.

That said, Molokai could be similar except the locals DO NOT WANT YOU THERE!
The "Friendly Isle" my ass. They won't let you do anything unless you hire
a guide. As far as the diving goes, I've heard mixed reviews but the place
remains pretty much unexplored. If you are going to dive it, you'll have to
find your own local charter. The difference between Molokai and Lanai is
that on Lanai almost everyone works for a single employer whose job is
catering to the rich: if you aren't nice to the tourists, you are voted off
the island. On Molokai, most of the residents are unemployed or
underemployed in the nescient tourist industry and very bitter about it.

You know all about Maui and there really isn't much to say about diving off
the Big Island so I won't go there.

Just give me plenty or warning when you are coming out next. At this point
in my life the kids come first.


kula

"Kula" <eeolson@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
> news:1176055279.330492.124880@n59g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>> On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, Kula <eeolson-(at)-hawai-(dot)-rr-(dot)-com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Alright then. I'll take a rain check. Besides, I'm done with Maui as
>> well as the Kauai and the Big Island. The one main island I haven't
>> dove is Oahu (I'm skipping Molokai, having heard the diving ain't so
>> hot there, and the boat trip from Kauai to dive off Niihau doesn't
>> sound very fun). We actually tried to stay in Oahu in December, but
>> ended up in Maui again because I couldn't find a single Starwood hotel
>> room in Honolulu - it was the triple draw of a Pearl Harbor
>> anniversary, the Honolulu Marathon, and a U2 concert all on one
>> weekend.
>>
>> But my next trip there, I promise to stay on Waikiki and give you
>> absolutely no excuse to avoid me.
>>
>
> Fair enough!
>
> First, If you haven't been to Niihau, you must go. Yes, the boat ride
> will be a trip to remember but the diving will be the best you have ever
> known in Hawaii.
>
> Second, Lanai used to be the "Pineapple Isle" but all pineapple production
> ceased completely and suddenly in 1995. Dole Pineapple then sold the
> island (or the 95% of it that it owned) to a private company. That
> private company has built two very fine resorts and a couple of dozen
> multi-million $ mansions. Otherwise it has left the island undeveloped.
> There are 350 hotel rooms and 3000 locals, almost all of whom work for
> Castle&Cook. They went from being a plantation island that farmed
> pineapples to a plant ion island that farms the rich and famous. It is
> the kind of place you go to get away from hoi polloi, but you must pay for
> that privilege.
>
> That said, Molokai could be similar except the locals DO NOT WANT YOU
> THERE! The "Friendly Isle" my ass. They won't let you do anything unless
> you hire a guide. As far as the diving goes, I've heard mixed reviews but
> the place remains pretty much unexplored. If you are going to dive it,
> you'll have to find your own local charter. The difference between
> Molokai and Lanai is that on Lanai almost everyone works for a single
> employer whose job is catering to the rich: if you aren't nice to the
> tourists, you are voted off the island. On Molokai, most of the residents
> are unemployed or underemployed in the nescient tourist industry and very
> bitter about it.
>
> You know all about Maui and there really isn't much to say about diving
> off the Big Island so I won't go there.
>
> Just give me plenty or warning when you are coming out next. At this
> point in my life the kids come first.
>
>
> kula

Just curious, why the worries about the boat trip to Niihau,
or am I forbidden to ask? ;) When I was there, the boat trip
was very enjoyable, especially with the whales in the area.
And, the diving is very worth even a rough trip. Dan

"Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Just curious, why the worries about the boat trip to Niihau,
> or am I forbidden to ask? ;) When I was there, the boat trip
> was very enjoyable, especially with the whales in the area.
> And, the diving is very worth even a rough trip. Dan


You were out early enough in the season that the whales were still around?
Sounds like you really lucked out. Normally no charter is willing to make
the crossing until May (when the northern swells subside) and it usually
closes down by September. I've done it a couple of times and even in the
middle of summer, it can be one wild ride.

kula

"Kula" <eeolson@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Just curious, why the worries about the boat trip to Niihau,
>> or am I forbidden to ask? ;) When I was there, the boat trip
>> was very enjoyable, especially with the whales in the area.
>> And, the diving is very worth even a rough trip. Dan
>
>
> You were out early enough in the season that the whales were still around?
> Sounds like you really lucked out. Normally no charter is willing to make
> the crossing until May (when the northern swells subside) and it usually
> closes down by September. I've done it a couple of times and even in the
> middle of summer, it can be one wild ride.
>
> kula

I believe it could be wild. Guess I was just there at the right time, but
I'll take that. Luck beats skill sometimes ;). Dan