Diving off of Bermuda ?

On Aug 21, 12:56 pm, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> Rosalie B. <gmbeas...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Bermuda is a surprisingly short flight out of New York, yet it remains
> a suprisingly expensive one. As such, I've also debated going there
> for a long weekend or whatever, but the economics simply don't make it
> favorable.

I'm seeing $100 flights.

> I'd definitely consult a water temperature -vs- month chart and plan
> on having a good wetsuit. My recollections are that it can hit 80F
> in the peak of summer, but visibility suffers. The good viz is
> during the winter, when it can IIRC be at the bottom of what coral can
> survive, which is the mid/lower 60's. Also expect air temperatures to
> similarly get chilly.

I'm fine with a wet suit. The charts show 82 degree water temps in
the summer with 84 air degree temps then. I can deal with that.

> I recall that a diving promotion from a few years ago was to dive on a
> certain number of Bermuda wrecks and get a specialty C-Card or
> something like that.
>
> Overall, it sounds like a nice place to go do some diving even with
> the seasonal temperature excursions, but it effectively remains a
> destination for high priced businessmen, which makes it a relatively
> poor vacation value.
>
> -hh

I guess we all vary in what we consider to be pricey. I'm still
looking into it. I'll let ya know.

On Aug 21, 7:57 pm, Daniel Kessler <dkess...@pop.cybernex.net> wrote:

> charter live-aboards off Bermuda? Are you serious?

http://www.bermudaiv.com One can also charter this boat to go in the
BVI's but I've already been to the BVI's (not on this boat) and was
hoping for a new place.

> The viz is not good there and the wrecks...more like a reef...I mean,
> except for the Celeste Marie something or other, you'd be hard pressed to
> identify a wreck.

I'm looking at a chart that shows vis of 40 to 100 ft in the warmest
water months and over 100 ft in the cooler months. As far as
wrecks : there is the Hermes, sunk as part of the artificial reef
there in 1984 and fully intact. The Cristobal, which is 499 ft long
and sunk in 1936. The Xing Da, which is 221 ft long, fully intact and
sunk in 1997 as part of the reef system. The Montana, 236 ft long
with boilers and paddlewheel intact. The Madiana, 345 ft long steel
hulled. The Darlington, 286 ft long steel hulled. The Rita Zovetta,
360 ft long and which is semi-penetrable. The list goes on and on.
These are large wrecks. There's gotta be something worthwhile there.

> Bermuda is not a place for scuba diving -- I know they do it there and
> have dive shops....but ...find someplace else for your diving vacation.

Thanks. I've been to many places around the world and the info I'm
seeing on Bermuda intrigues me.

On Aug 21, 7:57 pm, Daniel Kessler <dkess...@pop.cybernex.net> wrote:

> charter live-aboards off Bermuda? Are you serious?

http://www.bermudaiv.com One can also charter this boat to go in the
BVI's but I've already been to the BVI's (not on this boat) and was
hoping for a new place.

> The viz is not good there and the wrecks...more like a reef...I mean,
> except for the Celeste Marie something or other, you'd be hard pressed to
> identify a wreck.

I'm looking at a chart that shows vis of 40 to 100 ft in the warmest
water months and over 100 ft in the cooler months. As far as
wrecks : there is the Hermes, sunk as part of the artificial reef
there in 1984 and fully intact. The Cristobal, which is 499 ft long
and sunk in 1936. The Xing Da, which is 221 ft long, fully intact and
sunk in 1997 as part of the reef system. The Montana, 236 ft long
with boilers and paddlewheel intact. The Madiana, 345 ft long steel
hulled. The Darlington, 286 ft long steel hulled. The Rita Zovetta,
360 ft long and which is semi-penetrable. The list goes on and on.
These are large wrecks. There's gotta be something worthwhile there.

> Bermuda is not a place for scuba diving -- I know they do it there and
> have dive shops....but ...find someplace else for your diving vacation.

Thanks. I've been to many places around the world and the info I'm
seeing on Bermuda intrigues me.

On Aug 21, 7:57 pm, Daniel Kessler <dkess...@pop.cybernex.net> wrote:

> charter live-aboards off Bermuda? Are you serious?

http://www.bermudaiv.com One can also charter this boat to go in the
BVI's but I've already been to the BVI's (not on this boat) and was
hoping for a new place.

> The viz is not good there and the wrecks...more like a reef...I mean,
> except for the Celeste Marie something or other, you'd be hard pressed to
> identify a wreck.

I'm looking at a chart that shows vis of 40 to 100 ft in the warmest
water months and over 100 ft in the cooler months. As far as
wrecks : there is the Hermes, sunk as part of the artificial reef
there in 1984 and fully intact. The Cristobal, which is 499 ft long
and sunk in 1936. The Xing Da, which is 221 ft long, fully intact and
sunk in 1997 as part of the reef system. The Montana, 236 ft long
with boilers and paddlewheel intact. The Madiana, 345 ft long steel
hulled. The Darlington, 286 ft long steel hulled. The Rita Zovetta,
360 ft long and which is semi-penetrable. The list goes on and on.
These are large wrecks. There's gotta be something worthwhile there.

> Bermuda is not a place for scuba diving -- I know they do it there and
> have dive shops....but ...find someplace else for your diving vacation.

Thanks. I've been to many places around the world and the info I'm
seeing on Bermuda intrigues me.

On Aug 21, 7:57 pm, Daniel Kessler <dkess...@pop.cybernex.net> wrote:

> charter live-aboards off Bermuda? Are you serious?

http://www.bermudaiv.com One can also charter this boat to go in the
BVI's but I've already been to the BVI's (not on this boat) and was
hoping for a new place.

> The viz is not good there and the wrecks...more like a reef...I mean,
> except for the Celeste Marie something or other, you'd be hard pressed to
> identify a wreck.

I'm looking at a chart that shows vis of 40 to 100 ft in the warmest
water months and over 100 ft in the cooler months. As far as
wrecks : there is the Hermes, sunk as part of the artificial reef
there in 1984 and fully intact. The Cristobal, which is 499 ft long
and sunk in 1936. The Xing Da, which is 221 ft long, fully intact and
sunk in 1997 as part of the reef system. The Montana, 236 ft long
with boilers and paddlewheel intact. The Madiana, 345 ft long steel
hulled. The Darlington, 286 ft long steel hulled. The Rita Zovetta,
360 ft long and which is semi-penetrable. The list goes on and on.
These are large wrecks. There's gotta be something worthwhile there.

> Bermuda is not a place for scuba diving -- I know they do it there and
> have dive shops....but ...find someplace else for your diving vacation.

Thanks. I've been to many places around the world and the info I'm
seeing on Bermuda intrigues me.

On Aug 21, 7:57 pm, Daniel Kessler <dkess...@pop.cybernex.net> wrote:

> charter live-aboards off Bermuda? Are you serious?

http://www.bermudaiv.com One can also charter this boat to go in the
BVI's but I've already been to the BVI's (not on this boat) and was
hoping for a new place.

> The viz is not good there and the wrecks...more like a reef...I mean,
> except for the Celeste Marie something or other, you'd be hard pressed to
> identify a wreck.

I'm looking at a chart that shows vis of 40 to 100 ft in the warmest
water months and over 100 ft in the cooler months. As far as
wrecks : there is the Hermes, sunk as part of the artificial reef
there in 1984 and fully intact. The Cristobal, which is 499 ft long
and sunk in 1936. The Xing Da, which is 221 ft long, fully intact and
sunk in 1997 as part of the reef system. The Montana, 236 ft long
with boilers and paddlewheel intact. The Madiana, 345 ft long steel
hulled. The Darlington, 286 ft long steel hulled. The Rita Zovetta,
360 ft long and which is semi-penetrable. The list goes on and on.
These are large wrecks. There's gotta be something worthwhile there.

> Bermuda is not a place for scuba diving -- I know they do it there and
> have dive shops....but ...find someplace else for your diving vacation.

Thanks. I've been to many places around the world and the info I'm
seeing on Bermuda intrigues me.

On Aug 21, 7:57 pm, Daniel Kessler <dkess...@pop.cybernex.net> wrote:

> charter live-aboards off Bermuda? Are you serious?

http://www.bermudaiv.com One can also charter this boat to go in the
BVI's but I've already been to the BVI's (not on this boat) and was
hoping for a new place.

> The viz is not good there and the wrecks...more like a reef...I mean,
> except for the Celeste Marie something or other, you'd be hard pressed to
> identify a wreck.

I'm looking at a chart that shows vis of 40 to 100 ft in the warmest
water months and over 100 ft in the cooler months. As far as
wrecks : there is the Hermes, sunk as part of the artificial reef
there in 1984 and fully intact. The Cristobal, which is 499 ft long
and sunk in 1936. The Xing Da, which is 221 ft long, fully intact and
sunk in 1997 as part of the reef system. The Montana, 236 ft long
with boilers and paddlewheel intact. The Madiana, 345 ft long steel
hulled. The Darlington, 286 ft long steel hulled. The Rita Zovetta,
360 ft long and which is semi-penetrable. The list goes on and on.
These are large wrecks. There's gotta be something worthwhile there.

> Bermuda is not a place for scuba diving -- I know they do it there and
> have dive shops....but ...find someplace else for your diving vacation.

Thanks. I've been to many places around the world and the info I'm
seeing on Bermuda intrigues me.

On Aug 22, 7:39 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I guess we all vary in what we consider to be pricey. I'm still
> looking into it. I'll let ya know.

Sure.

For point of reference, the summer rates at Pirate's Point on Little
Cayman is $1650/pp-week, plus tips but including diving, food, room
and (most) drinks. Just add airfare, which is probably not going to
be that much worse than Bermuda. If that's a bit too much, or if 2
dives/day with gourmet food isn't quite your style, there's McCoy's
Lodge, which is around $600 cheaper per week. When your choice is
Little Cayman vs. Bermuda, which do you think more folks would prefer?


-hh

On Aug 22, 7:39 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I guess we all vary in what we consider to be pricey. I'm still
> looking into it. I'll let ya know.

Sure.

For point of reference, the summer rates at Pirate's Point on Little
Cayman is $1650/pp-week, plus tips but including diving, food, room
and (most) drinks. Just add airfare, which is probably not going to
be that much worse than Bermuda. If that's a bit too much, or if 2
dives/day with gourmet food isn't quite your style, there's McCoy's
Lodge, which is around $600 cheaper per week. When your choice is
Little Cayman vs. Bermuda, which do you think more folks would prefer?


-hh

On Aug 22, 7:39 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I guess we all vary in what we consider to be pricey. I'm still
> looking into it. I'll let ya know.

Sure.

For point of reference, the summer rates at Pirate's Point on Little
Cayman is $1650/pp-week, plus tips but including diving, food, room
and (most) drinks. Just add airfare, which is probably not going to
be that much worse than Bermuda. If that's a bit too much, or if 2
dives/day with gourmet food isn't quite your style, there's McCoy's
Lodge, which is around $600 cheaper per week. When your choice is
Little Cayman vs. Bermuda, which do you think more folks would prefer?


-hh