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Old 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Cam
 
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Default A modest proposal

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26196720.htm

Ban long, pointed kitchen knives, say UK doctors
26 May 2005 23:01:29 GMT

Source: Reuters

LONDON, My 27 (Reuters) - A group of British doctors called on Friday
for a ban on the sale of long, pointed kitchen knives which are used in
up to half of all stabbings.

"Many assaults are impulsive ... and the long pointed kitchen knife is
an easily available potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the
domestic setting," Dr Emma Hern and colleagues at West Middlesex
University Hospital in London said in the British Medical Journal.

Long knives were traditionally used to spear meat and lift it from the
plate to the mouth but times and table manners have changed. When the
researchers surveyed 10 chefs in Britain, none gave a reason why a long
pointed knife was essential. Short ones were just as good.

A leading British manufacturer of knives was also at a loss to say why
long pointed knives were needed and admitted its designs are based on
traditional shapes.

If a ban is enforced, the researchers believe it would reduce the
availability of the knives over the next few years.

"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible
and practical measure," they added.

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Old 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Matthias Voss
 
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Default Re: A modest proposal

Cam wrote:

> http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26196720.htm
>
> Ban long, pointed kitchen knives, say UK doctors
> 26 May 2005 23:01:29 GMT
>
> Source: Reuters
>
> LONDON, My 27 (Reuters) - A group of British doctors called on Friday
> for a ban on the sale of long, pointed kitchen knives which are used in
> up to half of all stabbings.
>
> "Many assaults are impulsive ... and the long pointed kitchen knife is
> an easily available potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the
> domestic setting," Dr Emma Hern



It's neither length nor tip shape which makes knives dangerous.
It's the handle!
If manufacturers made double-ended knives, there were no more stabbings.
Or double handled one.

Matthias

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Old 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Rick Simms
 
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Default Re: A modest proposal

On 27 May 2005 08:53:08 -0700, "Cam" <cam.barr@beer.com> wrote:

>http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26196720.htm
>
>Ban long, pointed kitchen knives, say UK doctors
>26 May 2005 23:01:29 GMT
>
>Source: Reuters
>
>LONDON, My 27 (Reuters) - A group of British doctors called on Friday
>for a ban on the sale of long, pointed kitchen knives which are used in
>up to half of all stabbings.
>
>"Many assaults are impulsive ... and the long pointed kitchen knife is
>an easily available potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the
>domestic setting," Dr Emma Hern and colleagues at West Middlesex
>University Hospital in London said in the British Medical Journal.
>
>Long knives were traditionally used to spear meat and lift it from the
>plate to the mouth but times and table manners have changed. When the
>researchers surveyed 10 chefs in Britain, none gave a reason why a long
>pointed knife was essential. Short ones were just as good.
>
>A leading British manufacturer of knives was also at a loss to say why
>long pointed knives were needed and admitted its designs are based on
>traditional shapes.
>
>If a ban is enforced, the researchers believe it would reduce the
>availability of the knives over the next few years.
>
>"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible
>and practical measure," they added.


************************************************** ****************************

Why just stop at short pointed ones, just make blunt tips. Then
they'll be forced to saw the victim into small pieces. Let's face it,
if you make it difficult enough and time consuming, not to mention
having to listen to screaming going on while your sawing away, the
lazy bastards will stop stabbing people.


Rick Simms
***********************************************
"Some days you just have to sit and drink beer while
resisting the urge to jump up and do the,
"Hold my beer and watch this shit!", thing."

C. Palmer (03-2005)
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Dillon Pyron
 
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Default Re: A modest proposal

Thus spake "Cam" <cam.barr@beer.com> :

>http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26196720.htm
>
>Ban long, pointed kitchen knives, say UK doctors
>26 May 2005 23:01:29 GMT
>
>Source: Reuters
>
>LONDON, My 27 (Reuters) - A group of British doctors called on Friday
>for a ban on the sale of long, pointed kitchen knives which are used in
>up to half of all stabbings.
>
>"Many assaults are impulsive ... and the long pointed kitchen knife is
>an easily available potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the
>domestic setting," Dr Emma Hern and colleagues at West Middlesex
>University Hospital in London said in the British Medical Journal.
>
>Long knives were traditionally used to spear meat and lift it from the
>plate to the mouth but times and table manners have changed. When the
>researchers surveyed 10 chefs in Britain, none gave a reason why a long
>pointed knife was essential. Short ones were just as good.
>
>A leading British manufacturer of knives was also at a loss to say why
>long pointed knives were needed and admitted its designs are based on
>traditional shapes.
>
>If a ban is enforced, the researchers believe it would reduce the
>availability of the knives over the next few years.
>
>"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible
>and practical measure," they added.



I have some two foot long shish kebob scewers. Are those next? And
screw drivers are quite effective at poking holes in people (maybe not
phillips head, though).

Next thing will be short knives, then pocket knives, then nail files.
The Brits have already demonstrated the slippery slope.

My wife, who laughs at the NRA (we have proved that a mixed marriage
can work) even used the term slippery slope.

What's next, cricket bats and croquet mallets?

I've read somewhere that aluminum softball bats have become popular.
But, oddly enough, they're not selling many softballs.

--
dillon
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Dennis \(Icarus\)
 
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"Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:aqpe91l5e12vaquk179pt7abgdfq64heph@4ax.com...
> Thus spake "Cam" <cam.barr@beer.com> :
>
> >http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26196720.htm
> >
> >Ban long, pointed kitchen knives, say UK doctors
> >26 May 2005 23:01:29 GMT
> >
> >Source: Reuters
> >
> >LONDON, My 27 (Reuters) - A group of British doctors called on Friday
> >for a ban on the sale of long, pointed kitchen knives which are used in
> >up to half of all stabbings.
> >
> >"Many assaults are impulsive ... and the long pointed kitchen knife is
> >an easily available potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the
> >domestic setting," Dr Emma Hern and colleagues at West Middlesex
> >University Hospital in London said in the British Medical Journal.
> >
> >Long knives were traditionally used to spear meat and lift it from the
> >plate to the mouth but times and table manners have changed. When the
> >researchers surveyed 10 chefs in Britain, none gave a reason why a long
> >pointed knife was essential. Short ones were just as good.
> >
> >A leading British manufacturer of knives was also at a loss to say why
> >long pointed knives were needed and admitted its designs are based on
> >traditional shapes.
> >
> >If a ban is enforced, the researchers believe it would reduce the
> >availability of the knives over the next few years.
> >
> >"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible
> >and practical measure," they added.

>
>
> I have some two foot long shish kebob scewers. Are those next? And
> screw drivers are quite effective at poking holes in people (maybe not
> phillips head, though)


You'd need to ban powered grinders too, since they could be used to make
even a blunt tip knife into a dagerously sharp one.

>
> Next thing will be short knives, then pocket knives, then nail files.
> The Brits have already demonstrated the slippery slope.
>
> My wife, who laughs at the NRA (we have proved that a mixed marriage
> can work) even used the term slippery slope.
>
> What's next, cricket bats and croquet mallets?


Fundamentally, people are the problem, so the solution is clear.

Ban people.

>
> I've read somewhere that aluminum softball bats have become popular.
> But, oddly enough, they're not selling many softballs.
>
> --
> dillon
> Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
> Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.


Dennis


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Old 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Dillon Pyron
 
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Default Re: A modest proposal

Thus spake "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> :

>
>"Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:aqpe91l5e12vaquk179pt7abgdfq64heph@4ax.com.. .
>> Thus spake "Cam" <cam.barr@beer.com> :
>>
>> >http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26196720.htm
>> >
>> >Ban long, pointed kitchen knives, say UK doctors
>> >26 May 2005 23:01:29 GMT
>> >
>> >Source: Reuters
>> >
>> >LONDON, My 27 (Reuters) - A group of British doctors called on Friday
>> >for a ban on the sale of long, pointed kitchen knives which are used in
>> >up to half of all stabbings.
>> >
>> >"Many assaults are impulsive ... and the long pointed kitchen knife is
>> >an easily available potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the
>> >domestic setting," Dr Emma Hern and colleagues at West Middlesex
>> >University Hospital in London said in the British Medical Journal.
>> >
>> >Long knives were traditionally used to spear meat and lift it from the
>> >plate to the mouth but times and table manners have changed. When the
>> >researchers surveyed 10 chefs in Britain, none gave a reason why a long
>> >pointed knife was essential. Short ones were just as good.
>> >
>> >A leading British manufacturer of knives was also at a loss to say why
>> >long pointed knives were needed and admitted its designs are based on
>> >traditional shapes.
>> >
>> >If a ban is enforced, the researchers believe it would reduce the
>> >availability of the knives over the next few years.
>> >
>> >"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible
>> >and practical measure," they added.

>>
>>
>> I have some two foot long shish kebob scewers. Are those next? And
>> screw drivers are quite effective at poking holes in people (maybe not
>> phillips head, though)

>
>You'd need to ban powered grinders too, since they could be used to make
>even a blunt tip knife into a dagerously sharp one.
>
>>
>> Next thing will be short knives, then pocket knives, then nail files.
>> The Brits have already demonstrated the slippery slope.
>>
>> My wife, who laughs at the NRA (we have proved that a mixed marriage
>> can work) even used the term slippery slope.
>>
>> What's next, cricket bats and croquet mallets?

>
>Fundamentally, people are the problem, so the solution is clear.
>
>Ban people.


"Kill them all, let the gods sort them out"

>
>>
>> I've read somewhere that aluminum softball bats have become popular.
>> But, oddly enough, they're not selling many softballs.
>>
>> --
>> dillon
>> Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
>> Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.

>
>Dennis
>


--
dillon
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Michael Wolf
 
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Nobody wrote:
> Cam wrote:
>
>> http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26196720.htm

>
> Boy are y'all missing the big picture here! Obviously (at least to an
> American) if you want to stop stabbings, or at least lower the
> incidence, then just legalize handguns. Stands to reason ...


replace the stabbings by shootings?


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Old 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Scott
 
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"Nobody" <spammers@risk.com> wrote in message
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> Cam wrote:
> > http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26196720.htm

> Boy are y'all missing the big picture here! Obviously (at least to an
> American) if you want to stop stabbings, or at least lower the
> incidence, then just legalize handguns. Stands to reason ...
>
> Bart F.


Youre talking to a liberal, socialist, leftist Canadian.

Logic has no place here.



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Old 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Nobody
 
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Cam wrote:
> http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26196720.htm

Boy are y'all missing the big picture here! Obviously (at least to an
American) if you want to stop stabbings, or at least lower the
incidence, then just legalize handguns. Stands to reason ...

Bart F.


>
> Ban long, pointed kitchen knives, say UK doctors
> 26 May 2005 23:01:29 GMT
>
> Source: Reuters
>
> LONDON, My 27 (Reuters) - A group of British doctors called on Friday
> for a ban on the sale of long, pointed kitchen knives which are used in
> up to half of all stabbings.
>
> "Many assaults are impulsive ... and the long pointed kitchen knife is
> an easily available potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the
> domestic setting," Dr Emma Hern and colleagues at West Middlesex
> University Hospital in London said in the British Medical Journal.
>
> Long knives were traditionally used to spear meat and lift it from the
> plate to the mouth but times and table manners have changed. When the
> researchers surveyed 10 chefs in Britain, none gave a reason why a long
> pointed knife was essential. Short ones were just as good.
>
> A leading British manufacturer of knives was also at a loss to say why
> long pointed knives were needed and admitted its designs are based on
> traditional shapes.
>
> If a ban is enforced, the researchers believe it would reduce the
> availability of the knives over the next few years.
>
> "We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible
> and practical measure," they added.
>

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Old 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Dennis \(Icarus\)
 
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"Michael Wolf" <michael.wolf@advalvasstopspam.be> wrote in message
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> Nobody wrote:
> > Cam wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26196720.htm

> >
> > Boy are y'all missing the big picture here! Obviously (at least to an
> > American) if you want to stop stabbings, or at least lower the
> > incidence, then just legalize handguns. Stands to reason ...

>
> replace the stabbings by shootings?


That would cut down on the incidence of stabbings, wouldn't it?

Dennis
>
>
> --
> Michael Wolf
>
> -----
>
> Cthulhu For President.
> Why settle for the lesser evil?
>
> remove stopspam to reply



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