Beyond belief

TonyP wrote:
>
>> What I said. Irrelevant. Locally important, may be. Irrelevant in a
>> slightly above regional level.
>> And if you knew about the backgrounds of Deutsche Welle ( Well
>> it's not a "Soldatensender Belgrad". Not quite )
>
>
> It reads more than that.
>
> "The long residency has left its stamp, not to mention on those
> communities with weak industrial bases, for which the nearby US military
> has become an essential economic engine.
>
> The district of Birkenfeld is one such area that could be hit hard. Up
> to 20 percent of GDP is dependent on the Baumholder military base in the
> region where parts of the 1st Infantry Division are now stationed.

20 percent. 20 percent of What))

Badlands. Cold winds. Blizzards. People once will be glad to forced to move.


> State officials in Rhineland-Palatinate can be thankful that two of the
> largest bases in the region, the Ramstein and Spangdahlem air bases, are
> not threatened with closure, even though there could be some troop
> reduction. The two make up the largest US military communities outside
> the United States, and are home to 40,000 soldiers and their dependents.
> A study by the University of Trier showed that the two bases alone
> contributed about €1.4 billion ($1.7 billion) to the local economy in
> 2001 and support about 27,000 jobs in the region.
>
> Read that again... $1.7billion and about 27,000 jobs in the region.
> Certainly NOT irrelevant. And this is from just two bases.
>
> I suggest you re-read the article.
>

"Michael Wolf" wrote ...
> Very long...one of the advantages of the EU...

So, the next time all the little European countries decide to fight each
other, it will instead be a civil war? Will we need to come break it up --
AGAIN?

Grumman-581 wrote:

> "Michael Wolf" wrote ...
>
>>Very long...one of the advantages of the EU...
>
>
> So, the next time all the little European countries decide to fight each
> other, it will instead be a civil war? Will we need to come break it up --
> AGAIN?

Civil war? No. Other? Only if we find a way to autonomous with petrol
supply.
I guess Britain will stick to the other side then. Russia and China to
Europe.

Unless The Oil companies learn to achieve win-win solutions with their
foreign counterparts. Like Enrico Mattei from italian ENI did so
extraordinary succesfull that the angloamerican oil companies blew all
their fuses. Mattei was assasinated shortly after he reached an
agreement with Iran which left 75% of profits in Iran, as opposed to the
10 % they got from BP.

Matthias

>From: Michael Wolf


>It would, in fact, be a good sign: at least part of the world is in peace.

But it's not, and never will be.


Popeye
The only working atomic bomb platforms the
Japanese ever had were delivered via airmail.

buzcutt454@aol.comByteMe (Popeye NCAT3) wrote in
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>>From: Michael Wolf
>
>>From: Michael Wolf
>
>>> Mind telling me what kind of tanks they had?
>>
>>American Sherman tanks and British Cromwell tanks
>>
>>>
>>> Rifles they carries?
>>
>>And how can you be sure it weren't English ones?
>
>>> Mind telling me what kind of tanks they had?
>>
>>American Sherman tanks and British Cromwell tanks
>>
>>>
>>> Rifles they carries?
>>
>>And how can you be sure it weren't English ones?
>
> Post the pictures.
>
> Cromwell tanks, my ass.

Same site...

And just to make you happy: the organisation of the battle group...

http://www.fireandfury.com/britinfo/firstpolarm.pdf


It appears that you really can't stand it that other countries also
contributed to the victory...


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buzcutt454@aol.comByteMe (Popeye NCAT3) wrote in
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>>From: Michael Wolf
>
>
>>It would, in fact, be a good sign: at least part of the world is in
>>peace.
>
> But it's not, and never will be.
>
>
> Popeye
> The only working atomic bomb platforms the
> Japanese ever had were delivered via airmail.
>
>
>

Wait a minute, while I look outside my window...hmmm, looks at peace to
me...

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Michael Wolf wrote:

> buzcutt454@aol.comByteMe (Popeye NCAT3) wrote in
> news:20041112095131.12009.00000483@mb-m16.aol.com:
>
>
>>>From: Michael Wolf
>>
>>
>>>It would, in fact, be a good sign: at least part of the world is in
>>>peace.
>>
>> But it's not, and never will be.
>>
>>
>> Popeye
>> The only working atomic bomb platforms the
>> Japanese ever had were delivered via airmail.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Wait a minute, while I look outside my window...hmmm, looks at peace to
> me...
>

and it isn't about you and your peace, it is about all the world.......

Michael Wolf wrote:

> The 2 biggest bases accounting for more than 40.000 of the 70.000 troops in
> total. The other bases are far smaller. A 'detail' you forgot in your
> bookkeeping...

And... over 27,000 jobs. $1.7billion in money spent. Sure... just a drop
in the bucket for those that depend on it.

>From: Michael Wolf

>Wait a minute, while I look outside my window...hmmm, looks at peace to
>me...

Just like 1939.


Popeye
The only working atomic bomb platforms the
Japanese ever had were delivered via airmail.

TonyP <arpierre@hooptonline.net> wrote in
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> Michael Wolf wrote:
>
>> TonyP <arpierre@hooptonline.net> wrote in
>> news:HTVkd.66648$fF6.30749128@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net:
>
>>>Michael Wolf wrote:
>
>>>>TonyP <arpierre@hooptonline.net> wrote in
>>>>news:BxKkd.65344$fF6.28800958@news4.srv.hcvlny .cv.net:
>>>
>>>>>>'all the money'?
>>>>>
>>>>>You don't believe having troops in Europe does not help the local
>>>>>economy?
>>>
>>>>Oh, I'm sure some local shops and restuarants won't like it, but
>>>>that's not really that much 'all the money'...
>>>
>>>Then you too need to do some reading....
>>>
>>>http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,...299315,00.html
>
>> Oh but I did the reading...still only local importance...
>
> So, if you loss more than 27,000 jobs (from just a couple of bases), how
> many lives will that affect. And, who is going to "subsidize" them until
> they find gainful employment. You?
> Denial is a wonderful thing.

The 2 biggest bases, something you still ddin't understand.

And yes, they'll get unemployment money and no, they don't need to worry
about health insurance (that's why there's something called social
security). And yes, it's everyone's taxes that pay for it (also theirs for
the moment).

Ignorance isn't always blissful.



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