What happens to a dis-armed populace.

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:02:17 -0800, "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Haitians aren't turmoiling all over the globe.
> >
> >Neither are the French. I haven't seen even one French rioter in my
> >neighborhood, period.
>
> They're wintering in SE Florida with Lee.

Maybe with all those missing plate stepper-uppers...?



>
> JF
>
> Let me apologize up front right now
> because I know I'm bound to be wrong
> about something some time.

Seems a bit off topic to me....

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
> Notice how the press bends over backwards not to attribute this to
> Muslims.
>
> "An attack this week on a female bus passenger highlighted the savage
> nature of some of the violence. The woman, in her 50s and on crutches, was
> doused with an inflammable liquid and set afire after passengers were forced
> to leave the bus, blocked by burning objects on the road, judicial officials
> said."
>
>
> Rioting Spreads to New Cities in France
> More Fires Break Out on Ninth Night of Violence
> By JAMEY KEATEN, AP
>
> AUBERVILLIERS, France (Nov. 5) - Widespread riots across impoverished areas
> of France took a malevolent turn in a ninth night of violence, with youths
> torching an ambulance and stoning medical workers coming to the aid of a
> sick person. Authorities arrested more than 250 people, an unprecedented
> sweep since the beginning of the unrest.
>
> Bands of youths also burned a nursery school, warehouses and nearly 900 cars
> overnight as the violence spread from the restive Paris suburbs to towns
> around France. The U.S. warned Americans against taking trains to the
> airport through the affected areas.
>
> At the nursery school in Acheres, west of Paris, part of the roof was caved
> in, childrens' photos stuck to blackened walls, and melted plastic toys
> littered the floor.
>
> The town had been previously untouched by the violence. Some residents
> demanded that the army be deployed, or that citizens rise up and form
> militias. At the school gate, the mayor tried to calm tempers.
>
> "We are not going to start militias," Mayor Alain Outreman said. "You would
> have to be everywhere."
>
> Fires and other incidents were reported in Lille, Toulouse, Rouen and
> elsewhere on the second night of unrest in areas beyond metropolitan Paris.
> An incendiary device was tossed at the wall of a synagogue in Pierrefitte,
> northwest of Paris, where electricity went out after a burning car damaged
> an electrical pole.
>
> "This is dreadful, unfortunate. Who did this? Against whom?" Naima Mouis, a
> hospital worker in Suresnes, asked while looking at the hulk of her
> burned-out car.
>
> On Saturday morning, more than 1,000 people took part in a silent march in
> one of the worst-hit suburbs, Aulnay-sous-Bois, filing past burned-out cars
> to demand calm. One banner read: "No to violence." Car torchings have become
> a daily fact in France's tough suburbs, with about 100 each night.
>
> The Interior Ministry said nearly 900 vehicles were burned throughout France
> from Friday night to Saturday morning, most in the Paris area.
>
> Arrests were also up sharply, with more than 250 people detained overnight,
> nearly all in the Paris area, said national police spokesman Patrick Hamon.
> Police deployed in smaller teams and used a helicopter to track bands of
> youths going from attack to attack, he said.
>
> Police had made just 78 arrests in the Paris region the previous night.
>
> The violence - sparked after the Oct. 27 accidental electrocution of two
> teenagers who believed police were chasing them in Seine-Saint-Denis - has
> laid bare discontent simmering in France's poor suburbs ringing big cities.
> Those areas are home to large populations of African Muslim immigrants and
> their children living in low-income housing projects marked by high
> unemployment, crime and despair.
>
> Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin oversaw a Cabinet meeting Saturday to
> evaluate the situation.
>
> The persistence of the violence prompted the American and Russian
> governments to advise citizens visiting Paris to avoid the suburbs, where
> authorities were struggling to gain control of the worst rioting in at least
> a decade.
>
> An attack this week on a female bus passenger highlighted the savage nature
> of some of the violence. The woman, in her 50s and on crutches, was doused
> with an inflammable liquid and set afire after passengers were forced to
> leave the bus, blocked by burning objects on the road, judicial officials
> said.
>
> Late Friday in Meaux, east of Paris, youths prevented firefighters from
> evacuating a sick person from an apartment in a housing project, pelting
> them with stones and torching the awaiting ambulance, an Interior Ministry
> officer said. The officer, not authorized to speak publicly, asked not to be
> named.
>
> "I'm not able to sleep at night because you never know when a fire might
> break out," said Mammed Chukri, 36, a Kurdish immigrant from northern Iraq
> living near a burned carpet warehouse. "I have three children and I live in
> a five-story building. If a fire hit, what would I do?"
>
> A national police spokesman, Patrick Hamon, said there appeared to be no
> coordination between gangs in the various riot-hit suburbs. He said,
> however, that neighborhood youths were communicating between themselves
> using cell phone text messaging or e-mails to arrange meeting points and
> alert each other to police.
>
>
>
>

"Dennis Willson" <giganews@taz-mania.com> wrote in message
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>
> Seems a bit off topic to me....

>> "I'm not able to sleep at night because you never know when a fire might
>> break out," said Mammed Chukri, 36, a Kurdish immigrant from northern
>> Iraq
>> living near a burned carpet warehouse. "I have three children and I live
>> in
>> a five-story building. If a fire hit, what would I do?"

Ever heard of fire diving?

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Dennis Willson" <giganews@taz-mania.com> wrote in message
> news:DPGdnf7f8eWvp_DeRVn-sg@baytsp.com...
>
>>Seems a bit off topic to me....
>
>
>>>"I'm not able to sleep at night because you never know when a fire might
>>>break out," said Mammed Chukri, 36, a Kurdish immigrant from northern
>>>Iraq
>>>living near a burned carpet warehouse. "I have three children and I live
>>>in
>>>a five-story building. If a fire hit, what would I do?"
>
>
> Ever heard of fire diving?
>
>
You can check out fire diving at

http://www.firediving.com/firewhat.html

--
I have never met a liberal street cop.

"Dennis Willson" <giganews@taz-mania.com> wrote in message
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>
> Seems a bit off topic to me....

Not been readling here long, have you?

Dennis
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"Dennis Willson" <giganews@taz-mania.com> wrote in message
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> Seems a bit off topic to me....

http://www.geocities.com/grumman581/...-rec-scuba.htm

>> Rioting Spreads to New Cities in France
>> More Fires Break Out on Ninth Night of Violence
>> By JAMEY KEATEN, AP
>>
>> AUBERVILLIERS, France (Nov. 5) - Widespread riots across impoverished
>> areas
>> of France took a malevolent turn


This is bullshit. The areas did not impoverish.

The areas were flooded with "poor" people because of a too
permissive immigration policy.

Had they stayed were they came from, their "poverty" would
go unnoticed because of being the same as in their surrounding.

Matthias

"Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:11mpp09jpfm0t36@news.supernews.com...
> >
> > > Uh....
> > >
> > > What happens to dis-armed populaces?
> >
> > So what does Muslim have to do with it? Thankfully the Muslims aren't
> > armed, is that your point?
> >
> > > Your other examples weren't rioting -because- they were Catholic, and
> > > calling the L.A. rioters exclusively "Christian" is quite the broad
> brush.
> >
> > The French poor aren't rioting because they're Muslim. They're rioting
> > because they're poor. That a majority of the French poor happen to be
> > Muslim is entirely due to geography, just like a majority of the illegal
> > immigrants in California happen to be Catholic and all of the L.A.
rioters
> > happened to be Christians.
>
> All? Sure about that?
>
> >
> > But calling all the French rioters Muslims is quite the broad brush.
> >
> > > Haitians aren't turmoiling all over the globe.
> >
> > Neither are the French. I haven't seen even one French rioter in my
> > neighborhood, period.
> >
> >
>
> I do have to admit I'm surprised to see that there are poor in France.
> Isnt France socialist, after all?

<cough>


>
> Dennis
>
>

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 20:57:39 -0600, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
<nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote:

>
>"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:11mpp09jpfm0t36@news.supernews.com...
>>
>> > Uh....
>> >
>> > What happens to dis-armed populaces?
>>
>> So what does Muslim have to do with it? Thankfully the Muslims aren't
>> armed, is that your point?
>>
>> > Your other examples weren't rioting -because- they were Catholic, and
>> > calling the L.A. rioters exclusively "Christian" is quite the broad
>brush.
>>
>> The French poor aren't rioting because they're Muslim. They're rioting
>> because they're poor. That a majority of the French poor happen to be
>> Muslim is entirely due to geography, just like a majority of the illegal
>> immigrants in California happen to be Catholic and all of the L.A. rioters
>> happened to be Christians.
>
>All? Sure about that?
>
>>
>> But calling all the French rioters Muslims is quite the broad brush.
>>
>> > Haitians aren't turmoiling all over the globe.
>>
>> Neither are the French. I haven't seen even one French rioter in my
>> neighborhood, period.
>>
>>
>
>I do have to admit I'm suprised to see that there are poor in France.
>Isnt France socialist, after all?
>
>Dennis
>
The current french government and President (and their policies) are
certainly NOT socialist.
Sorry to disappoint you.
John

"John R. Macdonald" <scubajohn@remove.claranet.fr> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 20:57:39 -0600, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"

> >I do have to admit I'm surprised to see that there are poor in France.
> >Isnt France socialist, after all?
> >
> >Dennis
> >
> The current french government and President (and their policies) are
> certainly NOT socialist.
> Sorry to disappoint you.

I'm sure they're not by your standards.

I'm sure they are by ours.