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Old 03-26-2007, 10:47 PM
Clint
 
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Default Latest Scuba Articles

Latest scuba articles on diving in the Red Sea in Egypt and in Costa Rica
added;

http://www.FreeSpiritActivewear.com/...ngarticles.htm



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Old 03-26-2007, 10:47 PM
Greg Mossman
 
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Default Re: Latest Scuba Articles

"Clint" <pepspam@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:9YkIf.98567$5D5.425542@weber.videotron.net...
> Latest scuba articles on diving in the Red Sea in Egypt and in Costa Rica
> added;
>
> http://www.FreeSpamActivewear.com/sc...ngarticles.htm


The spammer is back.

You didn't even dive the Red Sea, did you? Just regurgitated
easily-obtaininable info in a transparent attempt to market your sorry dive
wear.

I thought we got rid of you after the first round.

Still I am a bit intrigued by the fact that you claim to have seen "large
schools of [porcupine] fish". Unlike you, I have dove in plenty of tropical
locales outside the Caribbean and I've never seen schooling puffers of any
sort that I can recall. Is this for real (i.e., do you have pictures) or
are you just puffed full of air?


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Old 03-26-2007, 10:47 PM
Matthias Voss
 
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Default Re: Latest Scuba Articles

Greg Mossman wrote:

> "Clint" <pepspam@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:9YkIf.98567$5D5.425542@weber.videotron.net...
>
>>Latest scuba articles on diving in the Red Sea in Egypt and in Costa Rica
>>added;
>>
>>http://www.FreeSpamActivewear.com/sc...ngarticles.htm

>
>
> The spammer is back.
>
> You didn't even dive the Red Sea, did you? Just regurgitated
> easily-obtaininable info in a transparent attempt to market your sorry dive
> wear.
>
> I thought we got rid of you after the first round.
>
> Still I am a bit intrigued by the fact that you claim to have seen "large
> schools of [porcupine] fish". Unlike you, I have dove in plenty of tropical
> locales outside the Caribbean and I've never seen schooling puffers of any
> sort that I can recall. Is this for real (i.e., do you have pictures) or
> are you just puffed full of air?
>



You can actually see it some places. Though I would not call
it schooling. Puffers are alway too absent-minded to be
schooled in. The place is rather spiced with them, like if
you put coarse grain pepper acrss a steak.

Matthias


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Old 03-26-2007, 10:47 PM
Clint
 
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Default Re: Latest Scuba Articles

Well I certainly remember you and your pleasant attitude. Notice that I
didn't include any signature of any type and the post had no commercial
content at all so it could hardly be considered spam. You didn't have to
click on the list of articles did you? Everyone else could judge for
themselves if those articles have some trip info there or not.

As far as diving at these locations, I certainly did. I used Lionfish
Divers at Sharm and Rich Coast Divers at Costa Rica. As for the porcupine
fish, you can easily verify that by calling up Rich Coast themselves or any
other dive operator located in Guanacaste. Most have US based offices with
easy accessible numbers.

By the way, I don't see YOUR contribution of articles.


"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
news:11v44iclk2472f0@corp.supernews.com...
> "Clint" <pepspam@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:9YkIf.98567$5D5.425542@weber.videotron.net...
>> Latest scuba articles on diving in the Red Sea in Egypt and in Costa Rica
>> added;
>>
>> http://www.FreeSpamActivewear.com/sc...ngarticles.htm

>
> The spammer is back.
>
> You didn't even dive the Red Sea, did you? Just regurgitated
> easily-obtaininable info in a transparent attempt to market your sorry
> dive wear.
>
> I thought we got rid of you after the first round.
>
> Still I am a bit intrigued by the fact that you claim to have seen "large
> schools of [porcupine] fish". Unlike you, I have dove in plenty of
> tropical locales outside the Caribbean and I've never seen schooling
> puffers of any sort that I can recall. Is this for real (i.e., do you
> have pictures) or are you just puffed full of air?
>



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Old 03-26-2007, 10:47 PM
Greg Mossman
 
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Default Re: Latest Scuba Articles

"Clint" <pepmax@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:yzrIf.60701$nH1.464719@wagner.videotron.net.. .
> Well I certainly remember you and your pleasant attitude. Notice that I
> didn't include any signature of any type and the post had no commercial
> content at all so it could hardly be considered spam. You didn't have to
> click on the list of articles did you? Everyone else could judge for
> themselves if those articles have some trip info there or not.


I'll repeat it once again because you're obviously slow. I do understand
it's very frigid in your country this time of year so I'm trying to be
sympathetic to your frozen brain.

Trip reports are definitely appreciated here, but only if there are no
commercial strings attached. It's not an entirely fair system. Normal
folks like me are immune to claims of spamming since we have no commercial
affiliation with any sort of organization whatsoever in the business of
selling dive-related products or services.

You, however, are held to a higher standard because you are in the business
of selling dive-related products, however lame they may be. Therefore, your
posts have to achieve a level of "cleanliness" beyond reproach so that they
don't appear like cheap attempts at trolling dive newsgroups for business.
Obviously there's no bright line criteria as to what sort of posts are clean
enough, but I believe yours fail miserably.

First of all, there is no inherent content in your posts. All you post is a
solicitation to visit your commercial website for the "trip reports".
Second, it is obviously from the lack of content that not all of your trip
reports are first-hand, such as the Red Sea example in your last spam.
Therefore your posts can't even pretend to hide under the auspices of being
an objective dive review. It's simply fluff, a public service announcement
to lead the buyer into believing he's not really being sold anything by
viewing your site. It is spam, plain and simple.

> As far as diving at these locations, I certainly did. I used Lionfish
> Divers at Sharm and Rich Coast Divers at Costa Rica. As for the porcupine
> fish, you can easily verify that by calling up Rich Coast themselves or
> any other dive operator located in Guanacaste. Most have US based offices
> with easy accessible numbers.


I'll believe a picture.

> By the way, I don't see YOUR contribution of articles.


That's probably because you only hang around here long enough to post your
spam. I reported in detail about my last trip, to BIBR in Roatan. I've
posted on the Galapagos, Palau, Truk, Tahiti, various Hawaiian Islands,
Cocos, many Caribbean locales, plenty of local Southern California dives,
several Mexican Pacific sites, and even delivered late breaking news from
Thailand after the tsunami. All of them were posted here, so anyone could
read them without having to access my commercial website. And I'll post
another one when I return from Cozumel in a couple weeks.

If you still can't perceive the difference, you're either deliberately
obtuse or really, really stupid. Still, in the hope that you might have
some potential redeeming value with your trip reports, I encourage you to
try again without the commercial links. Hint: cut and paste. As you're
not actually in the business of selling dive trips, such reports would be
more acceptable, though even in that case excessive postings may still be
perceived as a cheap method of trolling for business. Ideally you'd leave
off the commercial sig entirely. Then there's absolutely nothing to
complain about except for the actualy content.


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Old 03-26-2007, 10:48 PM
Ray
 
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Default Re: Latest Scuba Articles

Clint wrote:
> Well I certainly remember you and your pleasant attitude. Notice that I
> didn't include any signature of any type and the post had no commercial
> content at all so it could hardly be considered spam. You didn't have to
> click on the list of articles did you? Everyone else could judge for
> themselves if those articles have some trip info there or not.
>
> As far as diving at these locations, I certainly did. I used Lionfish
> Divers at Sharm and Rich Coast Divers at Costa Rica. As for the porcupine
> fish, you can easily verify that by calling up Rich Coast themselves or any
> other dive operator located in Guanacaste. Most have US based offices with
> easy accessible numbers.
>
> By the way, I don't see YOUR contribution of articles.
>


Ah, Clint. That was entirely the wrong answer.

If you have a trip report, don't make anyone go to your commercial
website to read it, post it! Let the readers decide if it is
interesting or not. Then you can put whatever tag line or link you want
in your signature and it isn't considered spamming. When you do it that
way, you are contributing to the group and aren't pushing your wears.
if people like what they read or how you handle your answers, they might
visit the site in your signature line.

Plus, attacking someone that has commented on your post is just plain
childish and not very professional ... although it happens here all the
time. Plus it surely won't lead to any additional sales so it is best
not to get started down that road.

And while there are some that can't stand Greg and others that love him,
he is a regular contributor so your last sentence is out of line.

Just my $.02

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Old 03-26-2007, 10:48 PM
Greg Mossman
 
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Default Re: Latest Scuba Articles

"Ray" <ray@rayzplace.com> wrote in message
news:Wq-dnX3xlPFpLm_eRVn-ow@wavecable.com...

> And while there are some that can't stand Greg and others that love him,
> he is a regular contributor so your last sentence is out of line.


Thanks, Ray. I can't even stand myself sometimes, but I am very regular
thanks to a high-fiber diet. You'll never catch me eating spam.


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Old 03-26-2007, 10:48 PM
chilly
 
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"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
news:11v5ii5tbssep0a@corp.supernews.com...
> "Ray" <ray@rayzplace.com> wrote in message
> news:Wq-dnX3xlPFpLm_eRVn-ow@wavecable.com...
>
> > And while there are some that can't stand Greg and others that love him,
> > he is a regular contributor so your last sentence is out of line.

>
> Thanks, Ray. I can't even stand myself sometimes, but I am very regular
> thanks to a high-fiber diet. You'll never catch me eating spam.


ahhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa, I just choked on my spam.

You never cease to amaze me sweetie.



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Old 03-26-2007, 10:48 PM
Dillon Pyron
 
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Thus spake "Clint" <pepmax@videotron.ca> :

>Well I certainly remember you and your pleasant attitude. Notice that I
>didn't include any signature of any type and the post had no commercial
>content at all so it could hardly be considered spam. You didn't have to
>click on the list of articles did you? Everyone else could judge for
>themselves if those articles have some trip info there or not.
>
>As far as diving at these locations, I certainly did. I used Lionfish
>Divers at Sharm and Rich Coast Divers at Costa Rica. As for the porcupine
>fish, you can easily verify that by calling up Rich Coast themselves or any
>other dive operator located in Guanacaste. Most have US based offices with
>easy accessible numbers.
>
>By the way, I don't see YOUR contribution of articles.


You don't read much, do you?

We get plenty of trip reports here from multiple posters. All posted
here, with links to some great pictures. And no commercial content.

Try actually putting your report in the NG instead of feeding us to
your website.

>
>
>"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
>news:11v44iclk2472f0@corp.supernews.com...
>> "Clint" <pepspam@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>> news:9YkIf.98567$5D5.425542@weber.videotron.net...
>>> Latest scuba articles on diving in the Red Sea in Egypt and in Costa Rica
>>> added;
>>>
>>> http://www.FreeSpamActivewear.com/sc...ngarticles.htm

>>
>> The spammer is back.
>>
>> You didn't even dive the Red Sea, did you? Just regurgitated
>> easily-obtaininable info in a transparent attempt to market your sorry
>> dive wear.
>>
>> I thought we got rid of you after the first round.
>>
>> Still I am a bit intrigued by the fact that you claim to have seen "large
>> schools of [porcupine] fish". Unlike you, I have dove in plenty of
>> tropical locales outside the Caribbean and I've never seen schooling
>> puffers of any sort that I can recall. Is this for real (i.e., do you
>> have pictures) or are you just puffed full of air?
>>

>

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