CPR/AED Course for Scuba

My local Health Club is giving a Certification course in CPR/AED
(Automated External Defibrillator) under the auspices of the American
Heart Association.

I have read that certain Scuba Courses require CPR Certification. Will
this course satisfy that requirement?

Any comments will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sy

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<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> My local Health Club is giving a Certification course in CPR/AED
> (Automated External Defibrillator) under the auspices of the American
> Heart Association.

Good plan.

> I have read that certain Scuba Courses require CPR Certification. Will
> this course satisfy that requirement?

Yes.

> Any comments will be appreciated.

Take the courses.

I have taken CPR a total of 4 times in the past 30 years and the methodology
has evolved significantly.

I had one opportunity to use the training, but it was a head-on car wreck,
and there was just nothing that could be done for the kid. Post mortem it
was discovered that the force of the crash had torn his aorta loose from his
heart, so he never had a chance. The ME said that he would have likely died
if the injury had occured in the hospital emergency room, let alone 1.5
hours from the nearest hospital.

sytech@yahoo.com wrote:
> My local Health Club is giving a Certification course in CPR/AED
> (Automated External Defibrillator) under the auspices of the American
> Heart Association.
>
> I have read that certain Scuba Courses require CPR Certification. Will
> this course satisfy that requirement?
>
> Any comments will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sy
>
Yes. Rescue diver and above requires first aid and CPR. Lower level
courses do not require any first aid or CPR.

It needs to have a first aid component, or it may not be accepted for
rescue. I would take it no matter what.

As a note, I just recertified in the Emergency First Responder, and we did
both AED and O2. They weren't part of the course, but the instructor felt
they were important.

John

<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> My local Health Club is giving a Certification course in CPR/AED
> (Automated External Defibrillator) under the auspices of the American
> Heart Association.
>
> I have read that certain Scuba Courses require CPR Certification. Will
> this course satisfy that requirement?
>
> Any comments will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sy
>
> --
> Please post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com

Go for it... and as much as you can get out of it, better to have it
and not need it, than the other way round.

Oh folks, my Wife is a certified Firefighter/ First Responder and her
micro-brains contains more than my entire EFR course notes ... her
actual workbook is humungous.

Oh she is a nurse too.

Regards

Rob


On Thu, 18 May 2006 13:29:10 -0400, <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>My local Health Club is giving a Certification course in CPR/AED
>(Automated External Defibrillator) under the auspices of the American
>Heart Association.
>
>I have read that certain Scuba Courses require CPR Certification. Will
>this course satisfy that requirement?
>
>Any comments will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sy

Vulcan Bomber (101 Squadron)

"Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:180520061329107419%sytech@yahoo.com...
>>
>> My local Health Club is giving a Certification course in CPR/AED
>> (Automated External Defibrillator) under the auspices of the American
>> Heart Association.
>
> Good plan.
>
>> I have read that certain Scuba Courses require CPR Certification. Will
>> this course satisfy that requirement?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Any comments will be appreciated.
>
> Take the courses.
>
> I have taken CPR a total of 4 times in the past 30 years and the
> methodology
> has evolved significantly.
>
> I had one opportunity to use the training, but it was a head-on car wreck,
> and there was just nothing that could be done for the kid. Post mortem it
> was discovered that the force of the crash had torn his aorta loose from
> his
> heart, so he never had a chance. The ME said that he would have likely
> died
> if the injury had occured in the hospital emergency room, let alone 1.5
> hours from the nearest hospital.
>
>
>
Ooohhhhh that poor fuckin kid. Can you imagine layin on the side of the
road about to die and seein some queer like Scotty gettin all excited about
givin you CPR. His odds of survival went right down the shitter as soon as
you showed up asshole. I'd be willing to bet you did something wrong and
killed him. Were you shitfaced? Some people just have bad
luck...............poor kid ........RIP.

What exactly does AED training amount to? It's my understanding that
the devices are supposed to tell you what to do, both with a screen and
also audibly. If they require training to use, then haven't the
designers failed somewhat?

johnvon wrote:
> It needs to have a first aid component, or it may not be accepted for
> rescue. I would take it no matter what.
>
> As a note, I just recertified in the Emergency First Responder, and we did
> both AED and O2. They weren't part of the course, but the instructor felt
> they were important.
>
> John
>
> <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:180520061329107419%sytech@yahoo.com...
>
>>My local Health Club is giving a Certification course in CPR/AED
>>(Automated External Defibrillator) under the auspices of the American
>>Heart Association.
>>
>>I have read that certain Scuba Courses require CPR Certification. Will
>>this course satisfy that requirement?
>>
>>Any comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Sy
>>
>>--
>>Please post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com
>
>
>

zippthorne wrote:

> What exactly does AED training amount to? It's my understanding that
> the devices are supposed to tell you what to do, both with a screen and
> also audibly. If they require training to use, then haven't the
> designers failed somewhat?


In most states it is a legal requirement to medical staff,
that they have had training before they may use an AED.

All others don't need be trained, legally.

I see familiarization as the goal of the training, that you
are not anxious to use it when it is there.

But don't overestimate it.

In a diving accident, the use of an AED almost always is
beyond the critical time limit for its application.

To make the best of your AED training as a diver, you should
move into the vicinity of a home for the elderly, to
Florida, or the Frankenstone farm.

Matthias

The familiarization was very helpful!

> In a diving accident, the use of an AED almost always is
> beyond the critical time limit for its application.
Very true, unless it is on the boat, or on shore. The instructor who taught
our course actually had one he took with hm. The reason he included it was
the current proliferation of AED's. Believe it or not, the place with the
most is Las Vegas. Too many excited older folks!

> To make the best of your AED training as a diver, you should
> move into the vicinity of a home for the elderly, to
> Florida, or the Frankenstone farm.
A friend of mine who is an instructor had a student go in to ventricular
fibrillation due to an undiagnosed heart defect and die during a surface
swim at Edmonds, WA about 10 years ago. Student was a 25-year old
firefighter. Had an AED been available they might have been able to save
him.

John

"Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:e4p76f$f0v$01$1@news.t-online.com...
> zippthorne wrote:
>
> > What exactly does AED training amount to? It's my understanding that
> > the devices are supposed to tell you what to do, both with a screen and
> > also audibly. If they require training to use, then haven't the
> > designers failed somewhat?
>
>
> In most states it is a legal requirement to medical staff,
> that they have had training before they may use an AED.
>
> All others don't need be trained, legally.
>
> I see familiarization as the goal of the training, that you
> are not anxious to use it when it is there.
>
> But don't overestimate it.
>
> In a diving accident, the use of an AED almost always is
> beyond the critical time limit for its application.
>
> To make the best of your AED training as a diver, you should
> move into the vicinity of a home for the elderly, to
> Florida, or the Frankenstone farm.
>
> Matthias
>

Would they have had enough time to get him to shore, retrieve the AED from
the parking lot, get him out of his wet suit and dry enough for the unit to
work?


"johnvon" <johnvonc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The familiarization was very helpful!
>
>> In a diving accident, the use of an AED almost always is
>> beyond the critical time limit for its application.
> Very true, unless it is on the boat, or on shore. The instructor who
> taught
> our course actually had one he took with hm. The reason he included it was
> the current proliferation of AED's. Believe it or not, the place with the
> most is Las Vegas. Too many excited older folks!
>
>> To make the best of your AED training as a diver, you should
>> move into the vicinity of a home for the elderly, to
>> Florida, or the Frankenstone farm.
> A friend of mine who is an instructor had a student go in to ventricular
> fibrillation due to an undiagnosed heart defect and die during a surface
> swim at Edmonds, WA about 10 years ago. Student was a 25-year old
> firefighter. Had an AED been available they might have been able to save
> him.
>
> John
>
> "Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:e4p76f$f0v$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>> zippthorne wrote:
>>
>> > What exactly does AED training amount to? It's my understanding that
>> > the devices are supposed to tell you what to do, both with a screen and
>> > also audibly. If they require training to use, then haven't the
>> > designers failed somewhat?
>>
>>
>> In most states it is a legal requirement to medical staff,
>> that they have had training before they may use an AED.
>>
>> All others don't need be trained, legally.
>>
>> I see familiarization as the goal of the training, that you
>> are not anxious to use it when it is there.
>>
>> But don't overestimate it.
>>
>> In a diving accident, the use of an AED almost always is
>> beyond the critical time limit for its application.
>>
>> To make the best of your AED training as a diver, you should
>> move into the vicinity of a home for the elderly, to
>> Florida, or the Frankenstone farm.
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>
>