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  #31  
Old 04-11-2007, 04:18 PM
Grumman-581
 
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Default Re: Question about CW swim test (PADI)

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:05:16 -0400, Rick Simms
<rick_simms@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> What about using a Bore mop?


Not sure... On one end, the hole is considerably smaller, so I
wouldn't be able to run the thing all the way through... I removed the
O-rings earlier today... They are so small it was very difficult to
see what type of condition they were in, even using a magnifying glass
while standing outside in bright sunlight... Of course, removing them
ended up destroying them in the process...
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  #32  
Old 04-11-2007, 04:18 PM
Scott
 
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Default Re: Question about CW swim test (PADI)


"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:05:16 -0400, Rick Simms
> <rick_simms@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > What about using a Bore mop?

>
> Not sure... On one end, the hole is considerably smaller, so I
> wouldn't be able to run the thing all the way through... I removed the
> O-rings earlier today... They are so small it was very difficult to
> see what type of condition they were in, even using a magnifying glass
> while standing outside in bright sunlight... Of course, removing them
> ended up destroying them in the process...


Jeez.

Shitcan it and start over. You got took like I-have-no-idea-how-many-others.

You need an inflator and hose?

I'll send you one.


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  #33  
Old 04-11-2007, 05:14 PM
Grumman-581
 
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Default Re: Question about CW swim test (PADI)

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:42:31 -0700, "Scott"
<pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shitcan it and start over. You got took like I-have-no-idea-how-many-others.


Nawh, replacing the O-rings won't be that big of a deal if I can find
them... It was interesting seeing how the valve was made anyway...
I've never had an excuse to take one apart before...

Yeah, when I was younger, I was one of those kids that took all the
tubes out of the family TV when my parents were away to see what made
it work...

> You need an inflator and hose?


Nawh... I can take one off another BC if replacing the O-rings doesn't
fix it...
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  #34  
Old 04-11-2007, 05:14 PM
Scott
 
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"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Nawh... I can take one off another BC if replacing the O-rings doesn't
> fix it...


O-rings wont fix it.

Sorry to be the messenger that gets shot, but I have to deliver the message.

Orders and all that rot.


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Old 04-12-2007, 01:40 AM
Lee Bell
 
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"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:05:16 -0400, Rick Simms
> <rick_simms@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> What about using a Bore mop?

>
> Not sure... On one end, the hole is considerably smaller, so I
> wouldn't be able to run the thing all the way through... I removed the
> O-rings earlier today... They are so small it was very difficult to
> see what type of condition they were in, even using a magnifying glass
> while standing outside in bright sunlight... Of course, removing them
> ended up destroying them in the process...


We're talking about the low pressure inflator here, right?

I seem to recall that at least one of them was nothing more than a Schrader
valve (did I spell that right?). If so, a new valve should be easy to find
and cheap to purchase.

Lee


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Old 04-12-2007, 01:40 AM
Grumman-581
 
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Default Re: Question about CW swim test (PADI)

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:42:04 -0700, "Scott"
<pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote:
> O-rings wont fix it.


Well, I stopped by Home Depot this afternoon... The weather was nice,
so I took my sportbike out for a ride... As far as I could tell, it
appeared that a #60 O-ring would work... While I was at it, I also
picked up some that should fit the outer portion of the barrel in case
it starts to leak... The O-rings when on easily enough and after
reassembling everything, no leaks detected... So, at least for now, it
did fix it...

So, no one makes an inflator with a valve designed worth a damn?
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:40 AM
Al Wells
 
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In article <JWeTh.1920$OF5.1664@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
pleebell@bellsouth.net says...
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
> We're talking about the low pressure inflator here, right?
>
> I seem to recall that at least one of them was nothing more than a Schrader
> valve (did I spell that right?). If so, a new valve should be easy to find
> and cheap to purchase.


The Schrader valve is in the hose.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:40 AM
Grumman-581
 
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:11:18 GMT, Al Wells <al.wells@gmail.com> wrote:
> Halcyon makes a nice stainless steel one, "the last inflator valve
> you'll ever need". It has been recalled and redesigned and it is still a
> POS.
>
> I've had the best service from the black one with the button and oral
> inflator on the same side from Trident.


Damn, makes you think that perhaps we should go back to the old
manually inflated horse collar BCs... <grin>
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:40 AM
Al Wells
 
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Default Re: Question about CW swim test (PADI)

In article <5t0r139jj7l4a6i8h5ke0hq2kt7pnk8k27@4ax.com>, grumman581@DIE-
SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com says...

> Well, I stopped by Home Depot this afternoon... The weather was nice,
> so I took my sportbike out for a ride... As far as I could tell, it
> appeared that a #60 O-ring would work... While I was at it, I also
> picked up some that should fit the outer portion of the barrel in case
> it starts to leak... The O-rings when on easily enough and after
> reassembling everything, no leaks detected... So, at least for now, it
> did fix it...


It will work for a while.
>
> So, no one makes an inflator with a valve designed worth a damn?


Halcyon makes a nice stainless steel one, "the last inflator valve
you'll ever need". It has been recalled and redesigned and it is still a
POS.

I've had the best service from the black one with the button and oral
inflator on the same side from Trident.

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Old 04-12-2007, 12:06 PM
JRE
 
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Grumman-581 wrote:
<snip>
> I just got through disassembling Kaitlyn's BC's inflator valve...
> Seems that one of the O-rings has a slight leak to it and there are
> very small bubbles escaping from around the button... Sure wish I had
> a spanner wrench... A pair of needle nose pliers works, but it's not
> an elegant solution... The O-rings seem in good enough shape... I
> can't see any nicks on them or anything... Hope it's not a problem
> with the surface that the seat upon inside the valve... I can't really
> get a good look inside there to see how smooth the inner surface is on
> the valve... Probably stop by the plumbing department over at Lowes
> tomorrow to see if I can find some O-rings that are the right size...
> It's a small enough leak that if it occurred on my inflator valve, I
> wouldn't really worry about it, but the instructor mentioned it, so I
> guess I probably should fix it...


If it's a Schraeder valve, you can buy them and the tool to change them
at any auto parts store. I haven't bought one in a Long Time but I
can't imagine that they cost more than a buck or two each (tool and valve).

--
John Eells
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