Trimix trip and training in Key West

Anyone interested in doing trimix 1 and trimix 2 training in Key West in Nov.
contact me off the list.


Trace Malinowski
PDIC Instructor #2075
Freediving Instructor Trainer

"Trace Malin" <tracemalin@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone interested in doing trimix 1 and trimix 2 training in Key West in
> Nov.
> contact me off the list.

Can you do them back to back just like PADI OW and AOW?

"Trace Malin" <tracemalin@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Greg Mossman" mossman@qnet.com wrote:
>
>>Can you do them back to back just like PADI OW and AOW?
>>
>
> Apparently. But, if someone possesses the skills to dive to 200 feet on
> trimix,
> those same skills would be needed for 300 feet. At this level of diving,
> one
> should already be capable of diving. OW to AOW is a little different.

If you're so capable to begin with, why bother with the class then?

I figured that the classes would be progressions to logical stages where one
would practice skills and gain experience until ready for the next level.
But apparently it's just another way to sell more C cards, the GUE
equivalent of "Deep Air" after "Advanced Nitrox".

Have fun!

"Greg Mossman" mossman@qnet.com wrote:

>Can you do them back to back just like PADI OW and AOW?
>

Apparently. But, if someone possesses the skills to dive to 200 feet on trimix,
those same skills would be needed for 300 feet. At this level of diving, one
should already be capable of diving. OW to AOW is a little different.


Trace Malinowski
PDIC Instructor #2075
Freediving Instructor Trainer

"Greg Mossman" mossman@qnet.com wrote:

>
>If you're so capable to begin with, why bother with the class then?
>
>I figured that the classes would be progressions to logical stages where one
>would practice skills and gain experience until ready for the next level.
>But apparently it's just another way to sell more C cards, the GUE
>equivalent of "Deep Air" after "Advanced Nitrox".
>
>Have fun!

These aren't GUE classes. These will be NAUI and IANTD trimix courses. I'm
enduring GUE in October. These are for November if anyone is interested. I've
been taking TDI and NACD courses as well. GUE for the skills and the others for
added knowledge about what other tech divers are doing and for C-cards that Bob
Sherwood, Andrew Georgitsis and MHK can't take away if I piss them off


Trace Malinowski
PDIC Instructor #2075
Freediving Instructor Trainer

Hi Trace,

Although I have an IANTD trimix certification, I'm not sure it's all
that important. By comparison, most of what I've learned that is worth
knowing, I've learned from GUE training. Doing the IANTD trimix class
was mainly just a matter of doing the dives.

This is only my opinion of course, but I honestly think that, for
someone as experienced as yourself, doing trimix 1 and trimix 2 is a
waste of time and money. There is nothing particularly hard about
these courses *if* you have excellent buoyancy skills.

I did IANTD trimix (trimix 2) about a 1-1/2 years after I completed
GUE Cave 2 / NSS-CDS full cave and my trimix instructor accepted this
as equivalent training. So fortunately, I was able to skip a whole
bunch of unnecessary intermediate steps.

In the IANTD trimix class we mixed gas everyday and did the dives, so
it was good experience, but I really learned to dive from GUE.

Having watched a couple of Tech 1 classes, I would say, almost
universally, that GUE is teaching the stuff that the other agencies
are not, and, on the whole, it is the really the important stuff. GUE
tech training focuses on the skills and procedures, not the gases,
which, in my opinion, is how it should be. Other agencies focus
unnecessarily on the gasses, while GUE completely simplifies and
demystifies this, again as it should be in my view. There is nothing
particularly difficult or complicated about using helium.

If you are going to take Tech 1 with Andrew, Bob Sherwood and MHK, and
you take this training to heart at all, unless you know a really
exceptional trimix instructor for any other agency, I think you are
going to be very disappointed. Other agencies tech programs just don't
compare. Of course it's your money and time.

Frankly, I wouldn't worry about having a tech or trimix card. It's
probably not going to be much of an issue. At this level, it's your
skills, knowledge and experience that matter the most.

Best,

-bob

On 19 Sep 2004 05:44:52 GMT, tracemalin@aol.com (Trace Malin) wrote:

>Anyone interested in doing trimix 1 and trimix 2 training in Key West in Nov.
>contact me off the list.
>
>
>Trace Malinowski
>PDIC Instructor #2075
>Freediving Instructor Trainer