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Old 03-26-2007, 12:05 PM
Scott
 
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Default Re: SCUBA-Air Integrated Computer choice---Which one of these three?


<spectrepjcook@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Looking at three Air Integrated computers: Sherwood Wisdom,
> Aeris ai, and Ocenaic Pro Plus 2 Deluxe. Pleas eshare which on you
> would own of these. TIA!


UWATEC bottom timer and tables.

Or a Suunto Vyper, if you must.


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Old 03-26-2007, 12:05 PM
Curtis
 
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"Scott" wrote >> Looking at three Air Integrated computers: Sherwood
Wisdom,
>> Aeris ai, and Ocenaic Pro Plus 2 Deluxe. Pleas eshare which on you
>> would own of these. TIA!

>
> UWATEC bottom timer and tables.
>
> Or a Suunto Vyper, if you must.


Hmmmm, cold water and warm water agree.....

Curtis


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Old 03-26-2007, 12:05 PM
spectrepjcook@yahoo.com
 
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Default SCUBA-Air Integrated Computer choice---Which one of these three?

Looking at three Air Integrated computers: Sherwood Wisdom,
Aeris ai, and Ocenaic Pro Plus 2 Deluxe. Pleas eshare which on you
would own of these. TIA!

-Pat
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:05 PM
Scott
 
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Default Re: SCUBA-Air Integrated Computer choice---Which one of these three?

"Curtis" <cavey_curtis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hmmmm, cold water and warm water agree.....


Common sense of the Trailer Trash.

The only time you introduce confusions and terror is when you involve the
Bar.



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Old 03-26-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: SCUBA-Air Integrated Computer choice---Which one of these three?

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 02:17:15 +0000, spectrepjcook wrote:

> Looking at three Air Integrated computers: Sherwood Wisdom,
> Aeris ai, and Ocenaic Pro Plus 2 Deluxe. Pleas eshare which on you
> would own of these. TIA!
>
> -Pat


None. AI is not Scottish.


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Old 03-26-2007, 12:06 PM
Popeye
 
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spectrepjcook@yahoo.com wrote:
> Looking at three Air Integrated computers: Sherwood Wisdom,
> Aeris ai, and Ocenaic Pro Plus 2 Deluxe. Pleas eshare which on you
> would own of these. TIA!
>
> -Pat


I'd rather have my fingernails ripped out.

Many experienced divers do not prefer AI.

Usually people try to sell it to you because it's the most expensive
thing in the dive shop.

Having your tank pressure electronically delivered to you is really
rolling the dice, amoung other concerns.

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Old 03-26-2007, 12:06 PM
Charlie Hammond
 
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Default Suunto Vyper (was: Air Integrated Computer choice)

In article <Eq9Vd.626$OS5.2859@news.uswest.net>,
"Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> writes:

>Or a Suunto Vyper, if you must.


How does the NDL time on a Vyper with the RBGM model compare to NDL from
computers that use a Haldane-type model?

--
Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale FL USA
(hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)
All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.

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Old 03-26-2007, 12:06 PM
Greg Mossman
 
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Default Re: SCUBA-Air Integrated Computer choice---Which one of these three?

"Popeye" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Many experienced divers do not prefer AI.


Many experienced divers do not prefer computers at all. Use your head, they
say.

> Usually people try to sell it to you because it's the most expensive
> thing in the dive shop.


The most expensive isn't necessarily the worst.

> Having your tank pressure electronically delivered to you is really
> rolling the dice, amoung other concerns.


Why? You eliminate problems that could otherwise happen to an HP hose and
an analog pressure gauge. All my NDC info, depth, time, etc., are already
electronically delivered to me, so why not tank pressure too?



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Old 03-26-2007, 12:06 PM
Charlie Hammond
 
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Default Re: SCUBA-Air Integrated Computer choice---Which one of these three?

In article <4225e672$0$105$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com>,
"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> writes:
>"Popeye" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1109766027.315038.163290@o13g2000cwo.googleg roups.com...

...
>> Having your tank pressure electronically delivered to you is really
>> rolling the dice, amoung other concerns.

>
>Why? You eliminate problems that could otherwise happen to an HP hose and
>an analog pressure gauge. All my NDC info, depth, time, etc., are already
>electronically delivered to me, so why not tank pressure too?


Having electronically delivered tank pressure gauges more problems
than it eliminates -- and they are more likely to actually occure.

HP hoses and analog pressure gauges have been prooven over many years
to be *VERY* reliable. Electronic devices have many known problems:
sometimes the sending unit on the tank fails to send; sometimes the
gauge fails to recive. Sometimes the electronics end up being far
less robust in a salt water environment that the analog devices the
are trying to replace.

As for loosing the NDC info, depth, time, etc... If you are within your
NDL, you can just surface. (If you do NOT know how to make a safe, slow
ascent without staring at a depth gauge, learn now.) If you have a
decompression obligatio, you'd better have a backup plan in your head
and backup insruments for (at least) depth and time.
(I dive with a computer AND a bottom timer for this reason.)

--
Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale FL USA
(hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)
All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.

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Old 03-26-2007, 12:06 PM
Popeye
 
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Default Re: SCUBA-Air Integrated Computer choice---Which one of these three?


Greg Mossman wrote:

> The most expensive isn't necessarily the worst.


Nor is it the most practical.

> > Having your tank pressure electronically delivered to you is

really
> > rolling the dice, amoung other concerns.

>
> Why? You eliminate problems that could otherwise happen to an HP

hose and
> an analog pressure gauge.


I've seen a lot more batteries fail than HP hoses, plus, a hose
failure doesn't preclude the funtion of the guage while you egress.

> All my NDC info, depth, time, etc., are already
> electronically delivered to me, so why not tank pressure too?


So it's more convenient to lose all that information at once, as
opposed to part of it?

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