We can all go back to living our own lives now

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Charlie Hammond" <hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com> wrote in message
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> > >> > > Terri Schiavo has passed.
> >
> > This is old news. She has been dead for 14-15 years.
> >
> > Apparently neither law nor religion has caught on to the reality that
> > a "functioning" human body does not necessarily contain human life.
> >
> > I am generally proud of the USA, but in this case I must say that I
> > am ashamed of my country's behavior.
>
> Be ashamed of your government's behavior.
>
> Your fellow citizens and Judiciary did just fine.
>
> > The Bush brothers have shown
> > themselves to be greater idiots than I could have imagined -- not
> > that they were alone in this.
>
> I got a feeling DeLay's fixin to get roasted.

Speaking of legislators from Texas, I've heard two somewhat amusing stories
on the radio this morning.

First of all, U.S. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison has been considering running
for Governor. I'm all for that because I don't figure she can screw things
up any worse than Rick Perry has. Anyway, Rick Perry (current governor who
is hoping to be re-elected) told her that it would probably be better if she
ran for the Texas Senate. Why the hell would she run for Texas Senate when
she's already a US Senator?

Second, my state representative (Kel Seliger) just got a bill passed to make
the chuckwagon the official vehicle of Texas. During the debate over the
bill, he was asked by a Hispanic representative if they could have a
co-vehicle that would be referred to as the Carloswagon and if they could
designate the low-rider as the official state urban vehicle. He dealt with
these kinds of questions for quite some time. Then, someone asks if he will
entertain one more question and he responded "I've already yielded more than
a cheerleader at a drive in movie." Isn't that great.

"Chris Guynn" <chris.guynn@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Don't kid yourself... the lefties won't have a lock on that avenue.

I am not kidding anyone, I just wanted one such statement in black and white
in contrast to the many from the other side.

In article <nPd3e.6208$c76.1988@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> ,
"Chris Guynn" <chris.guynn@gmail.com> writes:
...
>Second, my state representative (Kel Seliger) just got a bill passed to make
>the chuckwagon the official vehicle of Texas. ...

The more time legislators spend on this sort of meaningless trivia,
the less time the have to mess up somthing important.

--
Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale FL USA
(hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)
All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.

In article <Fze3e.2752$633.2597@news.cpqcorp.net>, Charlie Hammond
<hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com> wrote:

€ In article <114qo3b4d1khdb1@news.supernews.com>,
€ "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> writes:
€
€ > Your fellow citizens and Judiciary did just fine.
€
€ You are correct that in spite of executive an legislative malfeasance,
€ the judiciary did get it right, at least the realtively few judges
€ that were involved.
€
€ But about 1/3rd of my fellow citizens think this was murder.
€

Overall, the number is much less (roughly 20%). But what's really scary
is that those 20% have an unprecented level of control over our elected
officials. If not for the judiciary, which the executive and
legislative branches are trying to dismantle, the radical religious
right would have complete control over this country.


€ This is much worse than you and I disagreeing about BCs.
€ Where is our country headed....

See above. It's scary.

"Charlie Hammond" <hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com> wrote in message
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> In article <nPd3e.6208$c76.1988@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> ,
> "Chris Guynn" <chris.guynn@gmail.com> writes:
> ..
> >Second, my state representative (Kel Seliger) just got a bill passed to
make
> >the chuckwagon the official vehicle of Texas. ...
>
> The more time legislators spend on this sort of meaningless trivia,
> the less time the have to mess up somthing important.

That's an optimistic view of the situation.

With the state of educational funding in Texas, I think they probably had
better things to do though.

"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote in message
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> ? "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> writes:
> ?
> ? > Your fellow citizens and Judiciary did just fine.
> ?
> ? You are correct that in spite of executive an legislative malfeasance,
> ? the judiciary did get it right, at least the realtively few judges
> ? that were involved.
> ?
> ? But about 1/3rd of my fellow citizens think this was murder.
> ?
>
> Overall, the number is much less (roughly 20%). But what's really scary
> is that those 20% have an unprecented level of control over our elected
> officials. If not for the judiciary, which the executive and
> legislative branches are trying to dismantle, the radical religious
> right would have complete control over this country.

Seems to me they were stopped right in their tracks.

Instantly.

Efficiently.

Public opinion has sent the involved politicians scurrying, except for
DeLay, who has bigger worries.

> ? This is much worse than you and I disagreeing about BCs.
> ? Where is our country headed....
>
> See above. It's scary.

I don't think you have much to worry about.

Pat Buchanan Doused With Salad Dressing
Former Presidential Candidate Appeared at University

KALAMAZOO, Mich. (April 1) - Commentator and former presidential candidate
Pat Buchanan cut short an appearance after an opponent of his conservative
views doused him with salad dressing.

"Stop the bigotry!" the demonstrator shouted as he hurled the liquid
Thursday night during the program at Western Michigan University. The
incident came just two days after another noted conservative, William
Kristol, was struck by a pie during an appearance at a college in Indiana.

After he was hit, Buchanan cut short his question-and-answer session with
the audience, saying, "Thank you all for coming, but I'm going to have to
get my hair washed."

The demonstrator, identified by authorities as a 24-year-old student at
Kalamazoo Valley Community College, was arrested and faces a misdemeanor
charge of disturbing the peace. He was released on a $100 cash bond, pending
his April 14 arraignment.

"He could have faced a felony assault charge, but Pat Buchanan decided to
not press that charge," university spokesman Matt Kurz said.

Buchanan's visit had evoked controversy on campus because it fell on the
birthday of the late Mexican-American labor leader Cesar Chavez. Buchanan
favors tighter controls on immigration.

Kristol, editor of the influential conservative magazine The Weekly Standard
and former chief of staff to Vice President Quayle, was splattered by a
student during a speech Tuesday at Earlham College in Richmond, Ind.

Members of the audience at the Quaker college jeered the student, then
applauded as Kristol wiped the pie from his face and said, "Just let me
finish this point." Kristol then completed his speech and took questions
from the audience.

The student, who was not immediately identified, was suspended and could
face expulsion following a disciplinary review, Earlham Provost Len Clark
said Wednesday.

Clark also issued a written apology complimenting Kristol for his
"graciousness."

"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:010420050828406999%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com ...

> Overall, the number is much less (roughly 20%). But what's really scary
> is that those 20% have an unprecented level of control over our elected
> officials. If not for the judiciary, which the executive and
> legislative branches are trying to dismantle, the radical religious
> right would have complete control over this country.

You forgot to scream "THE SKY IS FALLING."

20% of voters, representing hard corps religious right, control the US? Is
that why the Cross in San Diego is coming down? Is that why the word God has
been banned from public school and curriculum, removed from the Pledge of
Allegiance, etc?

The problem is these people reject you and your idea of governance
wholesale, and that scares you because you have no hope of controlling them
or their lives.

> ? This is much worse than you and I disagreeing about BCs.
> ? Where is our country headed....
>
> See above. It's scary.

Oh puhlease.

The "religious" right isn't nearly as powerful or scary as you want it to
look, and for another thing, the religious right is a natural reaction to
years of liberal
attacks and abuse.

They find you just as scary, if not more so, than you them.

"Charlie Hammond" <hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com> wrote in message
news:Fze3e.2752$633.2597@news.cpqcorp.net...
> In article <114qo3b4d1khdb1@news.supernews.com>,
> "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> writes:
>
> > Your fellow citizens and Judiciary did just fine.
>
> You are correct that in spite of executive an legislative malfeasance,
> the judiciary did get it right, at least the realtively few judges
> that were involved.

They were fearless, and I was proud of them.

> But about 1/3rd of my fellow citizens think this was murder.

They have that right.

The right to their religious convictions.

But they can't legislate them.

It's what makes us different from the rest.

> Where is our country headed....

Where it always has been.

We're doing just fine.

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Seems to me they were stopped right in their tracks.
>
> Instantly.
>
> Efficiently.

Yeah, but that doesnt allow for sensationalizing and fear mongering.

> I don't think you have much to worry about.

Like less than nothing. (Not that he would actually *do* anything about it).

You and I and all the other people who rejected the liberal left and their
bullshit are just going to stand back and let Jim and Tammy Baker take over
the country, eh? Hand over control to the Vatican or the UN? I think they
have it all backwards.

> Pat Buchanan Doused With Salad Dressing
> Former Presidential Candidate Appeared at University

<snip>

Where is all that tolerance, free speech and freedom the democrats are
always screaming about?

This is exactly why they get caged and get given the bums rush more often
than not.

None of us would even know Buchanan was alive if it wasn't for this moonbat
assaulting him.

I am waiting for the day when someone climbs down off the stage and beats
the shit out of one of these little assholes.

I don't like Robertson, and I wish he would just shut up and go away, but he
has the right to speak without getting assaulted, just like all the
democrats do.

In article <euf3e.24$wB5.1342@news.uswest.net>, Scott
<pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote:

€ "Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote in message
€ news:010420050828406999%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com ...
€
€ > Overall, the number is much less (roughly 20%). But what's really scary
€ > is that those 20% have an unprecented level of control over our elected
€ > officials. If not for the judiciary, which the executive and
€ > legislative branches are trying to dismantle, the radical religious
€ > right would have complete control over this country.
€
€ You forgot to scream "THE SKY IS FALLING."
€

Why would I say that to someone doing an ostrich imitation?


€ 20% of voters, representing hard corps religious right, control the US? Is
€ that why the Cross in San Diego is coming down? Is that why the word God has
€ been banned from public school and curriculum, removed from the Pledge of
€ Allegiance, etc?
€

Is it coming down? If and when it does, I expect there will be several
arrests, and likely even a bit of shooting over it. We've got every
right wing talk show host in town whipping their audiences into a
frenzy over this, and those that want it to stay are getting pretty
vocal and militant about it.


€ The problem is these people reject you and your idea of governance
€ wholesale, and that scares you because you have no hope of controlling them
€ or their lives.
€


€ > ? This is much worse than you and I disagreeing about BCs.
€ > ? Where is our country headed....
€ >
€ > See above. It's scary.
€
€ Oh puhlease.
€
€ The "religious" right isn't nearly as powerful or scary as you want it to
€ look,

Hmmm, they managed to get a law shoved through Congress and the Senate
over a weekend, and got a president to fly back to Washingington,
cutting short one of his infamous vacations, just to sign it. If that's
not powerful, I think it's time for you go back and learn how our
government works.




and for another thing, the religious right is a natural reaction to
€ years of liberal
€ attacks and abuse.
€
€ They find you just as scary, if not more so, than you them.
€
€
Yeah, but we know what we're doing