Elvis has left the building

The Pope has died.

May he Rest In Peace.

"Scott" wrote in message news:I2D3e.17$WY2.313@news.uswest.net...
> The Pope has died.

Seems that traditionally they have selected Italians for that office...
JP-II was a surprise since he was Polish... I guess it was some sort of
affirmative action type of thing... So, what's the next one going to be?
Maybe an Irish one so that their sacraments can be performed with whiskey
instead of wine? A Mexican one so that communiion will change from wine and
a wafer to tequilla and a tortilla? A French one so that they'll start
using better classes of wines? A Greek one so that .... nawh, we won't go
*there*... <snicker>

Scott wrote:
> The Pope has died.
>
> May he Rest In Peace.
>
>
bye,
pope

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 01:02:35 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
<sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote:

>
>"Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:I2D3e.17$WY2.313@news.uswest.net...
>> The Pope has died.
>>
>> May he Rest In Peace.
>>
>
>He never was into that DIR stuff.

I'm with Scott on this one guys. Sorry about dragging you down into my
faux intellectual gutter, Scott, and sorry Adam for hitting your
particular post, but I've read one too many cheap shots at the man.

The Pope doesn't deserve this rec.scuba kneejerk macho nonsense. He
was an important person to millions if not billions in the world and
it seems to me that rec.scubans can forget for once their record level
testosterone count long enough to show a little respect. Even
non-catholic Christians and civilized non-christians should be willing
to respect the religious leader of a large part of the Christian
world. Making jokes about him now is at best chickenshit and at worst
something less than chickenshit, whatever that is.

If Popeye will bear with me on this, that's all I have to say on the
matter.

JF


"Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so?
There's a support group for that. It's called
EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar." - Drew Carey

In article <v861511au7n4k4gst245hb2c5foqs2qalk@4ax.com>, JOF
<johnfrancis@sympatico.ca> wrote:

€ On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 01:02:35 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
€ <sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote:
€
€ >
€ >"Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message
€ >news:I2D3e.17$WY2.313@news.uswest.net...
€ >> The Pope has died.
€ >>
€ >> May he Rest In Peace.
€ >>
€ >
€ >He never was into that DIR stuff.
€
€ I'm with Scott on this one guys. Sorry about dragging you down into my
€ faux intellectual gutter, Scott, and sorry Adam for hitting your
€ particular post, but I've read one too many cheap shots at the man.
€
€ The Pope doesn't deserve this rec.scuba kneejerk macho nonsense. He
€ was an important person to millions if not billions in the world and
€ it seems to me that rec.scubans can forget for once their record level
€ testosterone count long enough to show a little respect. Even
€ non-catholic Christians and civilized non-christians should be willing
€ to respect the religious leader of a large part of the Christian
€ world. Making jokes about him now is at best chickenshit and at worst
€ something less than chickenshit, whatever that is.
€
€

Thanks, John. I agree that cheap shots here against JPII are simply
wrong. No person is all "right" or all "wrong" in how they've lived
their life, but I doubt anyone here could hold their own record up
against the man. I know I can't.

Alan

"JOF" <johnfrancis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:v861511au7n4k4gst245hb2c5foqs2qalk@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 01:02:35 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
> <sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:I2D3e.17$WY2.313@news.uswest.net...
>>> The Pope has died.
>>>
>>> May he Rest In Peace.
>>>
>>
>>He never was into that DIR stuff.
>
> I'm with Scott on this one guys. Sorry about dragging you down into my
> faux intellectual gutter, Scott, and sorry Adam for hitting your
> particular post, but I've read one too many cheap shots at the man.
>
> The Pope doesn't deserve this rec.scuba kneejerk macho nonsense. He
> was an important person to millions if not billions in the world and
> it seems to me that rec.scubans can forget for once their record level
> testosterone count long enough to show a little respect. Even
> non-catholic Christians and civilized non-christians should be willing
> to respect the religious leader of a large part of the Christian
> world. Making jokes about him now is at best chickenshit and at worst
> something less than chickenshit, whatever that is.
>
> If Popeye will bear with me on this, that's all I have to say on the
> matter.
>
> JF

I have nothing against him and he was one of the better Popes. I made the joke
because the Pope had no relevance to scuba diving and posts about him don't belong
here.

Adam

"JOF" wrote

> Even non-catholic Christians and civilized non-christians should be
> willing
> to respect the religious leader of a large part of the Christian
> world.

Why? He was no more, or less, than any other religious leader I didn't
agree with.

> Making jokes about him now is at best chickenshit and at worst
> something less than chickenshit, whatever that is.

True.

"Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote in message
news:Ha44e.2842$EE2.1408@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
> "JOF" <johnfrancis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:v861511au7n4k4gst245hb2c5foqs2qalk@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 01:02:35 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
> > <sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:I2D3e.17$WY2.313@news.uswest.net...
> >>> The Pope has died.
> >>>
> >>> May he Rest In Peace.
> >>>
> >>
> >>He never was into that DIR stuff.
> >
> > I'm with Scott on this one guys. Sorry about dragging you down into my
> > faux intellectual gutter, Scott, and sorry Adam for hitting your
> > particular post, but I've read one too many cheap shots at the man.
> >
> > The Pope doesn't deserve this rec.scuba kneejerk macho nonsense. He
> > was an important person to millions if not billions in the world and
> > it seems to me that rec.scubans can forget for once their record level
> > testosterone count long enough to show a little respect. Even
> > non-catholic Christians and civilized non-christians should be willing
> > to respect the religious leader of a large part of the Christian
> > world. Making jokes about him now is at best chickenshit and at worst
> > something less than chickenshit, whatever that is.
> >
> > If Popeye will bear with me on this, that's all I have to say on the
> > matter.
> >
> > JF
>
> I have nothing against him and he was one of the better Popes. I made the
joke
> because the Pope had no relevance to scuba diving and posts about him
don't belong
> here.

Niether do your diatribes against firearms.

Dennis
>
> Adam
>
>

"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:030420052018046921%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com ...

> Thanks, John. I agree that cheap shots here against JPII are simply
> wrong. No person is all "right" or all "wrong" in how they've lived
> their life, but I doubt anyone here could hold their own record up
> against the man. I know I can't.
>
> Alan

It's just not a democracy without dissent.

While I agree there's no need for cheap shots (in this particular case),
the Pope and the Catholic religion has a lot to answer for.

As far as holding my own against how my life was lived, I certainly can,
and believe you can, too.

As your and John's participation in the mass hysteria wears off, and some
more accurate reflections of what the Pope and his church advocated the last
2.5 decades are illuminated, there'll be lots of room for healthy RS
discussion.

His aloof "moral" position in the Schiavo case was despicable, he'd rather
your daughters die than get an abortion, he advocated -world-
over-population to propagate his religion regardless of consequence, his
very recent decisions on heroic life support was patently hypocritical,
won't allow female priests or marriage, but can't separate the men from the
boys, and I'm getting a little tired hearing how he single-handedly brought
down Communism.

Not to mention his starving parishioners world wide as he sits on arguably
the largest private fortune in the world.

If you guys don't think he's doing some explaining right now, you're daft.

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1152f6jcfupd344@news.supernews.com...

> As your and John's participation in the mass hysteria wears off, and
some
> more accurate reflections of what the Pope and his church advocated the
last
> 2.5 decades are illuminated, there'll be lots of room for healthy RS
> discussion.

Wont matter.

One of my ex's was a devout Catholic (Sicilian), and in their eyes the Pope
can do no wrong, everything he hands down is from God, of God and for God.

Kinda like some of the Ayatollahs and Mullahs that preach mass murder.

I agree with the wealth thing. They could spend a little bit of the Vaticans
money, instead of telling everyone else how to spend theirs (kinda makes him
a liberal, doesnt it?).

That said, John Paul wasnt all bad.

Now, for some lively discussion, lets look at our fellow Americans, fed the
fuck up and protecting our border with Mexico:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050404/D89890F00.html

The President of Mexico is threatening to sue if any of the wetbacks or dope
smugglers his government cant provide work to get hurt.