Bungied wings a hazard? Cite.

Can anyone cite a documented case where a diver has gotten into trouble
*because* of bungied wings?

Larry Anta wrote:

> Can anyone cite a documented case where a diver has gotten into trouble
> *because* of bungied wings?
>
>
>
Fact is, it is very difficult - usually impossible - to document
any single cause for most scuba incidents.

There is, of course, the infamous tech training deaths locally
that appear to have been the result of a grossly overweighted
student that is said to have been using a bungied wing.

m

"Larry Anta" <lanta@ryerson.ca> wrote in message
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> Can anyone cite a documented case where a diver has gotten into trouble
> *because* of bungied wings?


No.

--
If Ward Churchill can be a college professor, what's David Duke waiting
for? - Coulter

"Larry Anta" <lanta@ryerson.ca> wrote in message
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> Can anyone cite a documented case where a diver has gotten into trouble
> *because* of bungied wings?

Not that I am aware of.

People with a vested interest in making and selling dive gear ran lots of
innuendo and outright fabrications down about bungied wings, but their
motives were far from pure. Some of that still lingers in different places.

The trim is horrible, and the bungies are simply 100% unneccessary, but
other than that I dont think they will kill you.

Larry Anta wrote:

> Can anyone cite a documented case where a diver has gotten into trouble
> *because* of bungied wings?
>
>
Yes,
A friend got something vital for the dive stuck in the bungee when
trying to get it, in a cave. Don't remember wether it was the gauge, or
inflator, or stage reg.

She quit using them.

Matthias

"Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> A friend got something vital for the dive stuck in the bungee when
> trying to get it, in a cave. Don't remember wether it was the gauge, or
> inflator, or stage reg.
>
> She quit using them.

Since you say that she quit using them, I infer that you think that she
thinks the bungies were somehow "at fault." Is it possible for you to find
out from your friend exactly what happened?

I'm interested to know whether something forced its way between a bungie and
the wing or whether it happened as part of the action of "trying to get it."
My bungies are quite tight and I can't visualize how an object as large as a
gauge (or inflator or reg) could get between the bungie and the wing. In
fact, I think it would be somewhat difficult to purposely do that, let alone
have it happen accidentally.

Thanks MV.

In article <d48e2j$8sm$1@news.ryerson.ca>, Larry Anta
<lanta@ryerson.ca> wrote:

€ Can anyone cite a documented case where a diver has gotten into trouble
€ *because* of bungied wings?
€
€

I believe the answer is no, but I also have to ask why you would want
to have a solution for a non-existant problem.

Larry Anta wrote:

> "Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:d48ijs$p10$05$2@news.t-online.com...
>
>>A friend got something vital for the dive stuck in the bungee when
>>trying to get it, in a cave. Don't remember wether it was the gauge, or
>>inflator, or stage reg.
>>
>>She quit using them.
>
>
> Since you say that she quit using them, I infer that you think that she
> thinks the bungies were somehow "at fault." Is it possible for you to find
> out from your friend exactly what happened?

May take some time...


> I'm interested to know whether something forced its way between a bungie and
> the wing or whether it happened as part of the action of "trying to get it."

She did some strange hose routing, by attaching the gauge to something
else,to be able to better read it; involving a pistol clip, which I
believe got stuck between.
Without that, it probably would not have happened.


> My bungies are quite tight and I can't visualize how an object as large as a
> gauge (or inflator or reg) could get between the bungie and the wing.

I use a soniform lightly bungeed ladder as well, they allow oral
inflation, but still keep the lift momentum's center close to the center
of mass. Which is sometimes the disadvantage of the Explorer bladder (
that is does not).

Matthias




In
> fact, I think it would be somewhat difficult to purposely do that, let alone
> have it happen accidentally.
>
> Thanks MV.
>
>
>

"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:210420051110540853%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com ...
> In article <d48e2j$8sm$1@news.ryerson.ca>, Larry Anta
> <lanta@ryerson.ca> wrote:
>
> ? Can anyone cite a documented case where a diver has gotten into trouble
> ? *because* of bungied wings?
> ?
> ?
>
> I believe the answer is no, but I also have to ask why you would want
> to have a solution for a non-existant problem

The bungies help keep the deflated wing from flopping around and may reduce drag.
Under what conditions would the bungie pose a hazard?

Adam

In article <esS9e.11641$lP1.1971@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink .net>,
Adam Helberg <sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote:

€ "Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote in message
€ news:210420051110540853%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com ...
€ > In article <d48e2j$8sm$1@news.ryerson.ca>, Larry Anta
€ > <lanta@ryerson.ca> wrote:
€ >
€ > ? Can anyone cite a documented case where a diver has gotten into trouble
€ > ? *because* of bungied wings?
€ > ?
€ > ?
€ >
€ > I believe the answer is no, but I also have to ask why you would want
€ > to have a solution for a non-existant problem
€
€ The bungies help keep the deflated wing from flopping around and may reduce
€ drag.

I see you've been reading OMS brochures (either directly, or via proxy).

€ Under what conditions would the bungie pose a hazard?
€

I never said they did. I said they solve a problem that doesn't exist.
To do this, they add complexity and I'm not a fan of adding complexity
simply for the sake of adding complexity.

(I should also point out that I have a bungee wing. I didn't find
anything wrong with it, except being oversized for a single tank, but I
also didn't find any advantage to the bungees).

€ Adam
€
€