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pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com spake thusly and wrote:

> Let's face it - all this crap has NOTHING TO DO with 'the
>koran' or 'respecting islam', it has to do with only one thing ...
>HATING AMERICA.

See http://www.allahislam.com for more info and history.

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I would like to see...and use...the toilet down which one could flush the
koran or any other book. maybe it was tossed into the toilet, but there
ain't a toilet on the market that could flush a book (even a paperback) that
will not clog.

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On Sun, 29 May 2005 17:42:32 GMT, "jim frei"
<jdfrei@ZZearthlinkZZ.net> wrote:

>I would like to see...and use...the toilet down which one could flush the
>koran or any other book. maybe it was tossed into the toilet, but there
>ain't a toilet on the market that could flush a book (even a paperback) that
>will not clog.

Muslims blow up a mosque, killing dozens of Muslims, and
Muslims say nothing about it.

Muslims blow up a car bomb in a marketplace full of Muslims,
and Muslims say nothing about it.

Muslims shoot Muslims in the street, and Muslims say nothing
about it.

Muslims blow up lanes that are carrying Muslims, and Muslims
say nothing about it.

No riots, not 'jihads', no protests - just a few widows and
orphans and now-childless-mothers screaming in the streets.

But let there be a HINT, an ACCUSATION, a RUMOUR, of an
AMERICAN 'not respecting' some fucking book, some puddles of ink on
paper, and look out below !!!! All hell breaks loose.

Let's face it - all this crap has NOTHING TO DO with 'the
koran' or 'respecting islam', it has to do with only one thing ...
HATING AMERICA.

Period. End of story.


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On Sun, 29 May 2005 18:30:27 GMT, pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
wrote:

>On Sun, 29 May 2005 17:42:32 GMT, "jim frei"
><jdfrei@ZZearthlinkZZ.net> wrote:
>
>>I would like to see...and use...the toilet down which one could flush the
>>koran or any other book. maybe it was tossed into the toilet, but there
>>ain't a toilet on the market that could flush a book (even a paperback) that
>>will not clog.
>
> Muslims blow up a mosque, killing dozens of Muslims, and
>Muslims say nothing about it.

Americans bomb IRAQ, thousands of innocent people killed. Americans
say nothing about it.



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*U.S. Confirms Gitmo Soldier Kicked Quran
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Pentagon on Friday released new
details about mishandling of the Quran at the Guantanamo Bay prison
for terror suspects, confirming that a soldier deliberately kicked
the Muslim holy book and that an interrogator stepped on a Quran and
was later fired for "a pattern of unacceptable behavior." In other
confirmed incidents, water balloons thrown by prison guards caused
an unspecified number of Qurans to get wet; a guard's urine came
through an air vent and splashed on a detainee and his Quran; and in
a confirmed but ambiguous case a two-word obscenity was written in
English on the inside cover of a Quran.

Gary L. Burnore wrote:

> On Sun, 29 May 2005 18:30:27 GMT, pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
> wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 29 May 2005 17:42:32 GMT, "jim frei"
>><jdfrei@ZZearthlinkZZ.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I would like to see...and use...the toilet down which one could flush the
>>>koran or any other book. maybe it was tossed into the toilet, but there
>>>ain't a toilet on the market that could flush a book (even a paperback) that
>>>will not clog.
>>
>> Muslims blow up a mosque, killing dozens of Muslims, and
>>Muslims say nothing about it.
>
>
> Americans bomb IRAQ, thousands of innocent people killed. Americans
> say nothing about it.
>
>
>
Let me guess, you get your numbers form the LANCET study.....



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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:35:37 -0500, dazed and confuzzed
<dedmann@comcast.net> wrote:

>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 May 2005 18:30:27 GMT, pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 29 May 2005 17:42:32 GMT, "jim frei"
>>><jdfrei@ZZearthlinkZZ.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would like to see...and use...the toilet down which one could flush the
>>>>koran or any other book. maybe it was tossed into the toilet, but there
>>>>ain't a toilet on the market that could flush a book (even a paperback) that
>>>>will not clog.
>>>
>>> Muslims blow up a mosque, killing dozens of Muslims, and
>>>Muslims say nothing about it.
>>
>>
>> Americans bomb IRAQ, thousands of innocent people killed. Americans
>> say nothing about it.
>>
>>
>>
>Let me guess

No.

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*Associated Press/AP Online

WASHINGTON - The Pentagon on Friday released new details
about mishandling of the Quran at the Guantanamo Bay prison for
terror suspects, confirming that a soldier deliberately kicked the
Muslim holy book and that an interrogator stepped on a Quran and was
later fired for "a pattern of unacceptable behavior."
In other confirmed incidents, water balloons thrown by
prison guards caused an unspecified number of Qurans to get wet; a
guard's urine came through an air vent and splashed on a detainee
and his Quran; and in a confirmed but ambiguous case, a two-word
obscenity was written in English on the inside cover of a Quran.
The findings, released after normal business hours Friday
evening, are among the results of an investigation last month by
Brig. Gen. Jay Hood, the commander of the detention center in Cuba,
that was triggered by a Newsweek magazine report - later retracted -
that a U.S. soldier had flushed one Guantanamo Bay detainee's Quran
down a toilet.
The story stirred worldwide controversy and the Bush
administration blamed it for deadly demonstrations in Afghanistan.
Hood said in a written statement released Friday evening,
along with the new details, that his investigation "revealed a
consistent, documented policy of respectful handling of the Quran
dating back almost 2 1/2 years."
Hood said that of nine mishandling cases that were studied
in detail by reviewing thousands of pages of written records, five
were confirmed to have happened. He could not determine conclusively
whether the four others took place.
In one of those four unconfirmed cases, a detainee in April
2003 complained to FBI and other interrogators that guards
"constantly defile the Quran." The detainee alleged that
in one instance a female military guard threw a Quran into a bag of
wet towels to anger another detainee, and he also alleged that
another guard said the Quran belonged in the toilet and that guards
were ordered to do these things.
Hood said he found no other record of this detainee
mentioning any Quran mishandling. The detainee has since been
released.
In the most recent confirmed case of urine splashing on a
detainee and his Quran, Hood said the complaint was made by a
detainee on March 25, 2005. An unidentified guard admitted at the
time that "he was at fault," the Hood report said, adding
that his supervisor reprimanded him and assigned him to gate guard
duty where he had no contact with detainees for the remainder of his
assignment at Guantanamo Bay.
In that case, the guard had left his observation post and
went outside to urinate, according to Hood's findings. He urinated
near an air vent and the wind blew his urine through the vent into
the cell block.
Hood also said his investigation found 15 cases of detainees
mishandling their own Qurans. "These included using a Quran as
a pillow, ripping pages out of the Quran, attempting to flush a
Quran down the toilet and urinating on the Quran," Hood's
report said. It offered no possible explanation for the detainees'
motives.
Last week, Hood disclosed that he had confirmed five cases
of mishandling of the Quran, but he refused to provide details.
Allegations of Quran desecration at Guantanamo Bay have led to
anti-American passions in many Muslim nations, although Pentagon
officials have insisted that the problems were relatively minor and
that U.S. commanders have gone to great lengths to enable detainees
to practice their religion in captivity.
Hood said last week that he found no credible evidence that
a Quran was ever flushed down a toilet. He said a prisoner who was
reported to have complained to an FBI agent in 2002 that a military
guard threw a Quran in the toilet has since told Hood's
investigators that he never witnessed any form of Quran desecration.
Other prisoners who were returned to their home countries
after serving time at Guantanamo Bay as terror suspects have alleged
Quran desecration by U.S. guards, and some have said a Quran was
placed in a toilet.
There are about 540 detainees at Guantanamo Bay. Some have
been there more than three years without being charged with a crime.
Most were captured on the battlefields of Afghanistan in 2001 and
2002 and were sent to Guantanamo Bay in hope of extracting useful
intelligence about the al-Qaida terrorist network.
Both President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld
have denounced an Amnesty International report that called the U.S.
detention center at Guantanamo Bay "the gulag of our
time."
The president told reporters at a press conference on
Tuesday that the report by the human-rights group was
"absurd."
On Wednesday, Rumsfeld called the characterization
"reprehensible" and said the U.S. military had taken care
to ensure that detainees were free to practice their religion.
However, he also acknowledged that some detainees had been
mistreated, even "grievously" at times.

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:35:37 -0500, dazed and confuzzed
<dedmann@comcast.net> wrote:

>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 May 2005 18:30:27 GMT, pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 29 May 2005 17:42:32 GMT, "jim frei"
>>><jdfrei@ZZearthlinkZZ.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would like to see...and use...the toilet down which one could flush the
>>>>koran or any other book. maybe it was tossed into the toilet, but there
>>>>ain't a toilet on the market that could flush a book (even a paperback) that
>>>>will not clog.
>>>
>>> Muslims blow up a mosque, killing dozens of Muslims, and
>>>Muslims say nothing about it.
>>
>>
>> Americans bomb IRAQ, thousands of innocent people killed. Americans
>> say nothing about it.
>>
>>
>>
>Let me guess, you get your numbers form the LANCET study.....

Americans rescue millions from an evil dictator who killed not
thousands of them, but many HUNDREDS of thousands of them, the world
complains about it.

America stops the 'religious cleansing' slaughter of muslims
in Bosnia, the world complains about it.

America gets 'Pearl harbored' on 9/11, THOUSANDS die, and the
world is 'sympathetic' and 'on our side' **UNTIL** such time as we
decide to **DO** something about it, other than piss upwind at the
worlds largest debating society.

An American rips a page out of a book and it's a fucking crime
against humanity.

Get serious.


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pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:35:37 -0500, dazed and confuzzed
><dedmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 May 2005 18:30:27 GMT, pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 29 May 2005 17:42:32 GMT, "jim frei"
>>>><jdfrei@ZZearthlinkZZ.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I would like to see...and use...the toilet down which one could flush the
>>>>>koran or any other book. maybe it was tossed into the toilet, but there
>>>>>ain't a toilet on the market that could flush a book (even a paperback) that
>>>>>will not clog.
>>>>
>>>> Muslims blow up a mosque, killing dozens of Muslims, and
>>>>Muslims say nothing about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Americans bomb IRAQ, thousands of innocent people killed. Americans
>>> say nothing about it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Let me guess, you get your numbers form the LANCET study.....
>
> Americans rescue millions from an evil dictator who killed not
>thousands of them, but many HUNDREDS of thousands of them, the world
>complains about it.
>
> America stops the 'religious cleansing' slaughter of muslims
>in Bosnia, the world complains about it.
>
> America gets 'Pearl harbored' on 9/11, THOUSANDS die, and the
>world is 'sympathetic' and 'on our side' **UNTIL** such time as we
>decide to **DO** something about it, other than piss upwind at the
>worlds largest debating society.

Maybe what we DID about it should have had some frikkin relation to
what was done, instead of satisying Bush's predetermination to get
Saddam.

> An American rips a page out of a book and it's a fucking crime
>against humanity.

I agree. I think what is being done to our own sacred documents, the
Constitution and the Declaration of Independece, is much more
grievous.

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:33:54 -0700, Alan Street
<agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote:


>Ah yes. "If you're not with us, you're against us." A favorite mantra
>of facists throughout history.

So, you call Harry Reid a Fascist ???? I think he's really
more of a Socialist, actually .....

>Fortunately, some of us are strong enough to fight back against those
>who would weaken our country and government.

Yeh, right - those loony-tunes who were sucking down airtime
on Cspan all day. Uh huh.


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