Potential Life Saving Procedures

This floated across my desk and I thought it might be beneficial:

In case of emergency Paramedics will turn to a victim's cell phone
for clues to that person's identity. You can make their job much easier
with a simple idea that they are trying to get everyone to adopt: ICE.

ICE stands for In Case of Emergency. If you add an entry in the
contacts list in your cell phone under ICE, with the name and phone no.
of the person ! that the emergency services should call on your behalf,
you can save them a lot of time and have your loved ones contacted
quickly. It only takes a few moments of your time to do.

Paramedics know what ICE means and they look for it immediately. ICE
your cell phone NOW!

Please pass this one along



Check it out: http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/icephone.asp

Dive Safe!

Mike Jarrells

jarrells@jarrells.cjb.net wrote in news:1122567848.610393.123600
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> This floated across my desk and I thought it might be beneficial:
>
> In case of emergency Paramedics will turn to a victim's cell phone
> for clues to that person's identity. You can make their job much easier
> with a simple idea that they are trying to get everyone to adopt: ICE.
>
> ICE stands for In Case of Emergency. If you add an entry in the
> contacts list in your cell phone under ICE, with the name and phone no.
> of the person ! that the emergency services should call on your behalf,
> you can save them a lot of time and have your loved ones contacted
> quickly. It only takes a few moments of your time to do.
>
> Paramedics know what ICE means and they look for it immediately. ICE
> your cell phone NOW!
>
> Please pass this one along
>
>
>
> Check it out: http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/icephone.asp
>
> Dive Safe!
>
> Mike Jarrells
>
>

This has been doing the rounds in the UK since 7th July and has been
officially backed by various emergency services specifically East Anglian
Ambulance Service who launched the campaign, supported by Vodafone.

http://www.eastanglianambulance.com/...il.asp?newsID=
646104183

It's not a hoax, check here.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/icephone.asp


I'm not sure how valid it would be outside the UK though.

--
Stef the pragmatist

Hope for the best
Plan for the worst

Sometimes the glass is half-full; most of the time I’m waiting for a
refill.

Thus spake jarrells@jarrells.cjb.net :

>This floated across my desk and I thought it might be beneficial:

Jeez, this is all over Usenet, with the exact same text.

What I have done for some time is

1 Emergency
2 Emergency
3 Emergency
4 Emergency pager

All they have to do is hit "phonebook" and the numbers pop up at the
top. No scrolling through about 20 entries to even hit the I's.

>
> In case of emergency Paramedics will turn to a victim's cell phone
>for clues to that person's identity. You can make their job much easier
>with a simple idea that they are trying to get everyone to adopt: ICE.
>
>ICE stands for In Case of Emergency. If you add an entry in the
>contacts list in your cell phone under ICE, with the name and phone no.
>of the person ! that the emergency services should call on your behalf,
>you can save them a lot of time and have your loved ones contacted
>quickly. It only takes a few moments of your time to do.
>
>Paramedics know what ICE means and they look for it immediately. ICE
>your cell phone NOW!
>
>Please pass this one along
>
>
>
>Check it out: http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/icephone.asp
>
>Dive Safe!
>
>Mike Jarrells

--
dillon

Linux, it's not just an OS, it's a way
of life.

And a damn fine one, at that.

jarrells@jarrells.cjb.net wrote:
> This floated across my desk and I thought it might be beneficial:
> In case of emergency Paramedics will turn to a victim's cell phone
> for clues to that person's identity. You can make their job much easier
> with a simple idea that they are trying to get everyone to adopt: ICE.

<snip>

Lemme see here. In case of emergency....

1. If I'm at home, they should know who I am.

2. If I'm in my car, they should know who I am. I have ID in my car at
all times so even if, for some bizarre reason, I don't have my picture
driver's license, they still can get my insurance card and owner's card
out of the glove box.

3. If I'm in someone else's car, I'd have my pocketbook and wallet ID
with me or at the very least, a credit card.

4. If I'm walking around and not in a car at all, I'd still have a
pocketbook/wallet ID or credit card.

5. If I'm in the water and diving, I don't take ID or my cell phone.

6. If I'm involved in some emergency that is so bad that they can't
identify me, then chances are that my cell phone is either not on my
person(body) or else it is totally fried just like I am and so no one
is gonna pull any info off of it. Last I heard, cell phones don't have
their own 'black box.'

Maybe I'm just being skeptical, but this "Life Saving Procedures"
thing sounds like the purrrrfect opportunity for someone who has stolen
or found your cell phone to obtain more personal information about you
so that they can use it to rip off your identity. Maybe I have a
criminal mind but taking your cell phone is one way that I'd look for
clues as to where you live and to see if I might want to rob your
house, or attempt to do other things. The more personal info you add
to your cell phone, the better you help thieves find out exactly who
you are.

In article <1122602056.560055.138260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
Salty <babette7401@hotmail.com> wrote:

€ jarrells@jarrells.cjb.net wrote:
€ > This floated across my desk and I thought it might be beneficial:
€ > In case of emergency Paramedics will turn to a victim's cell phone
€ > for clues to that person's identity. You can make their job much easier
€ > with a simple idea that they are trying to get everyone to adopt: ICE.
€
€ <snip>
€
€ Lemme see here. In case of emergency....
€
€ 1. If I'm at home, they should know who I am.
€
€ 2. If I'm in my car, they should know who I am. I have ID in my car at
€ all times so even if, for some bizarre reason, I don't have my picture
€ driver's license, they still can get my insurance card and owner's card
€ out of the glove box.
€

The issue isn't figuring out who you are, the issue is knowing who to
call for permission to turn off the respirator

Alan Street wrote:

> Salty <babette7401@hotmail.com> wrote:
> € Lemme see here. In case of emergency....
> € 1. If I'm at home, they should know who I am.
> € 2. If I'm in my car, they should know who I am. I have ID in my car at
> € all times so even if, for some bizarre reason, I don't have my picture
> € driver's license, they still can get my insurance card and owner's card
> € out of the glove box.

> The issue isn't figuring out who you are, the issue is knowing who to
> call for permission to turn off the respirator

Alan, I love ya... but....

1. "Respirator" is a term for a machine that takes the surrounding air
and purifies it. Firemen wear a respirator. Patients do not. Patients
in need of breathing assistance wear a "Ventilator", not a respirator.
(Yes some wear C-pap or bi-pap but that's another matter and still not
a respirator.) Sorry to be 'picky-une' but I've worked with vent
patients and I'm tired of hearing the news media screw up the terms all
the time.

2. If "they"/paramedics or whomever know your identity, then they
often can determine your last wishes, esp if you have your living will
registered with the State or the local hospitals or your doctor. Worse
case scenerio, they can call a relative and let the relative decide,
which could even let the paramedics/whomever off the legal hook. In
addition, along with our driver's license and other ID, many of us
carry papers that do not leave all the guess work up to the
paramedics/whomever at all. For instance, my driver's license is very
clearly stamped that I wish to be an organ donor. That indictates that
they need to keep me 'on ice' for a little while longer if they are to
preserve any body parts and as such, it could determine my fate of
being on a machine, even if just long enough to 'cultivate' my heart so
that it can be cut out of my dead or near-dead body and given to
someone who is waiting for a transplant... and then the machine turned
off to let me die.

3. In many cases, you won't be put on a vent in the first place. That
decision will be made for you regardless of whatever you have in
writing to dictate otherwise and whatever your relatives want. You'll
be 'left to die' the way that god probably intended before all these
machines were invented.

(From Constantine - "God is a child with an ant farm and he doesn't
have much of a sense of humor.")

Lastly, this is another case in point for "what in the heck did we do
and how did we ever manage to get by at all before cell phones"
Sorry, but I don't buy into it at all.

"Salty" <babette7401@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1122602056.560055.138260@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Lemme see here. In case of emergency....
>
> 1. If I'm at home, they should know who I am.
>
> 2. If I'm in my car, they should know who I am. I have ID in my car at
> all times so even if, for some bizarre reason, I don't have my picture
> driver's license, they still can get my insurance card and owner's card
> out of the glove box.
>
> 3. If I'm in someone else's car, I'd have my pocketbook and wallet ID
> with me or at the very least, a credit card.
>
> 4. If I'm walking around and not in a car at all, I'd still have a
> pocketbook/wallet ID or credit card.
>
> 5. If I'm in the water and diving, I don't take ID or my cell phone.
>
> 6. If I'm involved in some emergency that is so bad that they can't
> identify me, then chances are that my cell phone is either not on my
> person(body) or else it is totally fried just like I am and so no one
> is gonna pull any info off of it. Last I heard, cell phones don't have
> their own 'black box.'
>
> Maybe I'm just being skeptical, but this "Life Saving Procedures"
> thing sounds like the purrrrfect opportunity for someone who has stolen
> or found your cell phone to obtain more personal information about you
> so that they can use it to rip off your identity. Maybe I have a
> criminal mind but taking your cell phone is one way that I'd look for
> clues as to where you live and to see if I might want to rob your
> house, or attempt to do other things. The more personal info you add
> to your cell phone, the better you help thieves find out exactly who
> you are.

My thoughts exactly.


>

"chilly" wrote in message news:IGiGe.62813$5V4.50271@pd7tw3no...
> My thoughts exactly.

If you have an entry labeled 'Home' on your cell phone, then it might be
possible for someone to do a reverse lookup on it and find out where you
live... If you are attacked at your home, it is unlikely that it will be
because someone found your cell phone, it's more likely to be because you
were followed after having attracted attention some other way -- flashy car,
flashing cash, wearing a gold Rolex, or just a Scarlet V on your forehead...

Salty wrote:
> Maybe I have a
> criminal mind but taking your cell phone is one way that I'd look for
> clues as to where you live and to see if I might want to rob your
> house, or attempt to do other things. The more personal info you add
> to your cell phone, the better you help thieves find out exactly who
> you are.

Let me be sure I understand correctly. You figure that almost all of the times that
you might be out somewhere you're probably going to have a pocketbook with your ID,
which presumably has your address on it. And perhaps your checkbook, which will have
your bank and account number. Maybe even a social security card. But you're worried
that identity thieves will want your phone because it has an emergency phone number
in it? Do your friends know that you're putting all of them at risk with your phone?


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"Steve" <SPAMTRAPglawackus@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:FTiGe.3637$Na6.1751302@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
> Let me be sure I understand correctly. You figure that almost all of the
times that
> you might be out somewhere you're probably going to have a pocketbook with
your ID,
> which presumably has your address on it.

Well, I do generally have my driver's licence on me.

>And perhaps your checkbook, which will have
> your bank and account number.

Almost never.

> Maybe even a social security card.

It's in a wallet in a closet. I haven't carried my SI# card since I was in
my very early twenties.

> But you're worried
> that identity thieves will want your phone because it has an emergency
phone number
> in it?

I think these people are trying to ensure that if they get blown up by
terrorists in a train tunnel, it will be easier to identify their little
bits.

>Do your friends know that you're putting all of them at risk with your
phone?

:^)