Going through diving withdrawal -- Need help

"Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
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>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>> Is there a minimum of equipment I can buy to get down to the bottom
>>>>>> of our pool which is 12 feet?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 12 foot and 6 inch snorkel? ( and a great lung capacity to overcome
>>>>> the dead space)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tried that and screwed up my ears. I have to descend slower than I can
>>>> hold my breath.
>>>
>>>
>>> I told you before never hold your breathe when diving
>>
>>
>> He wasn't diving, he was snorkeling.
>>
>> You seem to hebetate on that subject.
>>
>> Have you been eating Canadian beef, maybe?
>
> You're suspecting CBD*?
>
> Matthias
>
> *Canadian Bovine Disease

More like "Canadian Hoof In Mouth Disease".

He's got all the classic symptoms:

Rote obfuscation and vitriol, blatant hypocrisy, denial and/or re-writing
of his own posted words (even when evidenced in the same post), automatic
and baseless counter-accusations without a shred of supporting evidence, and
endemic deafness to the word "cite".

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:17:38 -0600, "Sheldon"
<sheldon@REMOVEsopris.net> wrote:

> I went to my local dive shop, where I took my pool lessons, and the guy had
> tons of stuff in the back for peanuts. He started going through boxes and I
> got a bc for free, a regulator and pressure gauge for free, but he has to
> service it, and an older steel tank that has just been hydrostatically
> tested for $100. I went over to the public rec center indoor pool and they
> have no problem with me using a lane in 3-D or swimming around the bottom.

By "older steel tank", it probably means a steel-72... They're only
slightly less than an AL80 in capacity since an AL80 is not a full 80
cu-ft... A bit of an overfill in the steel-72 will bring it up to a
true 80 cu-ft anyway... That's a bit high for a steel-72, but if it
comes with a fresh hydro, visual inspection, and air fill, it's not
too bad... I think the cheapest I ever got a steel-72 for was around
$20-30 (local, so no shipping)... It needed a new hydro and
inspection... Didn't need tumbling, so it turned out to be a good
deal...

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
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> "Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
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>> Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
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>>>>>> "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a minimum of equipment I can buy to get down to the bottom
>>>>>>> of our pool which is 12 feet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 12 foot and 6 inch snorkel? ( and a great lung capacity to overcome
>>>>>> the dead space)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tried that and screwed up my ears. I have to descend slower than I
>>>>> can hold my breath.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I told you before never hold your breathe when diving
>>>
>>>
>>> He wasn't diving, he was snorkeling.
>>>
>>> You seem to hebetate on that subject.
>>>
>>> Have you been eating Canadian beef, maybe?
>>
>> You're suspecting CBD*?
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>> *Canadian Bovine Disease
>
> More like "Canadian Hoof In Mouth Disease".
>
> He's got all the classic symptoms:
>
> Rote obfuscation and vitriol, blatant hypocrisy, denial and/or re-writing
> of his own posted words (even when evidenced in the same post), automatic
> and baseless counter-accusations without a shred of supporting evidence,
> and endemic deafness to the word "cite".

Have you got rid of mad cow disease from the US of A? It was stuffing your
beef exports which was great for me but you are MCD free now aren't you?
selling to Japan and Korea?

Anyhow whatever the problems with beef in the US were the fishing seems to
be great.

Grumman-581 wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:27:16 -0600, "Sheldon"
> <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Is there a minimum of equipment I can buy to get down to the bottom of our
>>pool which is 12 feet?
>
>
> Yeah, assuming that you are too naturally buoyant -- a couple of lead
> weights... 20 or 30 lbs should work quite nicely... <evil-grin>
>
> If you want to stay longer than a single breath will entail (and not
> drown in the process), you are going to need some sort of air
> supply... The cost of an AL80 is not that much more than the smaller
> tanks, so I would suggest staying with it or perhaps an old
> steel-72... You can get a plastic backplate and put the tank on it or
> for only a couple more bucks, go with an aluminum backplate...
>
> Here's a plastic backplate on ebay right now:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/SCUBA-DIVING-DIV...QQcmdZViewItem
>
> You don't need a BC if you are weighted correctly... Check ebay out
> for gear... Sometimes you can even find tanks on ebay that are local
> and as such you'll be able to avoid paying shipping... Shipping costs
> tend to eat up whatever deal you can get on tanks usually... You will
> need a minimum of a single 1st and 2nd stage... SPGs are not really
> needed... Just go with an unbalanced 2nd stage and you'll be able to
> tell when the tank starts getting close to empty by the fact that it
> gets a bit more difficult to breathe from...
>
> Or you can just use a stainless steel hose clamp around the base of
> your tank with a rope or nylon strap attached between it and the neck
> of your tank valve and toss this over a shoulder... Some of us have
> used even less than this when working over the side on our boats
> clearing a prop or whatever...

damn it, Gru

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:49:47 -0500, Joe English
<joeenglish2@wisperhome.com> wrote:

> damn it, Gru

What? He asked a question, I gave him a fair answer...

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:17:38 -0600, "Sheldon"
> <sheldon@REMOVEsopris.net> wrote:
>
>> I went to my local dive shop, where I took my pool lessons, and the guy
>> had
>> tons of stuff in the back for peanuts. He started going through boxes
>> and I
>> got a bc for free, a regulator and pressure gauge for free, but he has to
>> service it, and an older steel tank that has just been hydrostatically
>> tested for $100. I went over to the public rec center indoor pool and
>> they
>> have no problem with me using a lane in 3-D or swimming around the
>> bottom.
>
> By "older steel tank", it probably means a steel-72... They're only
> slightly less than an AL80 in capacity since an AL80 is not a full 80
> cu-ft... A bit of an overfill in the steel-72 will bring it up to a
> true 80 cu-ft anyway... That's a bit high for a steel-72, but if it
> comes with a fresh hydro, visual inspection, and air fill, it's not
> too bad... I think the cheapest I ever got a steel-72 for was around
> $20-30 (local, so no shipping)... It needed a new hydro and
> inspection... Didn't need tumbling, so it turned out to be a good
> deal...

Some of the items on eBay are good deals, but I live in the boonies and if I
can't pick them up the shipping is outrageous. Since all of this stuff is
used, at the local shop, I plan on asking for the "cash" price.

Also a matter of trust, and I'm not sure what kind of price you can put on
that. Definitely a good deal for playing in the pool and knowing the
equipment is safe to use. As a novice I do want to do this on the cheap,
but I want to know it's been inspected by someone I trust.

"chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
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> "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> >> tanks, so I would suggest staying with it or perhaps an old
>> >> steel-72... You can get a plastic b ackplate and put the tank on it or
>> >> for only a couple more bucks, go with an aluminum backplate...
>> >
>> >
>> > surely a pony bottle or a spare air is all that is needed they are
> really
>> > great
>> >
>>
>> Might be a plan. I'll have to see how much air they hold and how I would
>> attach it myself. At least I could use it when I dive.
>
> Uh oh . . here we go . . .
>
When I say I could use it when I dive I meant as a pony bottle. Not as my
main air supply.

"Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
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> "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> >> tanks, so I would suggest staying with it or perhaps an old
> >> >> steel-72... You can get a plastic b ackplate and put the tank on it
or
> >> >> for only a couple more bucks, go with an aluminum backplate...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > surely a pony bottle or a spare air is all that is needed they are
> > really
> >> > great
> >> >
> >>
> >> Might be a plan. I'll have to see how much air they hold and how I
would
> >> attach it myself. At least I could use it when I dive.
> >
> > Uh oh . . here we go . . .
> >
> When I say I could use it when I dive I meant as a pony bottle. Not as my
> main air supply.

Uh oh . . . here we go . . .

:^)

Do a rec.scuba google search on "spare air".

"chilly" wrote

>> > Uh oh . . here we go . . .
>> >
>> When I say I could use it when I dive I meant as a pony bottle. Not as
>> my
>> main air supply.
>
> Uh oh . . . here we go . . .
>
> :^)
>
> Do a rec.scuba google search on "spare air".

OK, let's be nice to the new guy.

Sheldon, those tanks aren't even big enough to use for drysuit
inflation.

Curtis

"Curtis" <cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "chilly" wrote
>
> >> > Uh oh . . here we go . . .
> >> >
> >> When I say I could use it when I dive I meant as a pony bottle. Not as
> >> my
> >> main air supply.
> >
> > Uh oh . . . here we go . . .
> >
> > :^)
> >
> > Do a rec.scuba google search on "spare air".
>
> OK, let's be nice to the new guy.

OK, you first.

> Sheldon, those tanks aren't even big enough to use for drysuit
> inflation.

Ah, I see you've already started.

;^)