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Old 09-13-2007, 07:29 AM
ben bradlee
 
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Default FBI Issues New Scuba Warning (June)

Page 20 of October issue of Scuba Diving.

http://www.dema.org/associations/101...ing%206-07.pdf


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Old 09-13-2007, 09:46 AM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: FBI Issues New Scuba Warning (June)

ben bradlee wrote

> http://www.dema.org/associations/101...ing%206-07.pdf


I knew it all along:
1. WKPP and all people associated with DIR are suspected terrorists. They
dive deep, long, do advanced training, train in towing other people and do
not appear to be motivated by profit.
2. PADI is knowingly providing training to terrorist related individuals for
profit. Otherwise, their name would not be specifically included in the
communication while other agencies are not.
3. Sheldon is a suspected terrorist. He sought scuba training in an area not
normally known for scuba diving.
4. YMCA is a suspected terrorist organization. It has a religious aspect.
5. The Boy Scouts of American is also a suspected terrorist organization.
They have a religious aspect too.

What a bunch of junk. What this all means is that Homeland Security and the
FBI are well aware of the potential for use of scuba by terrorist
organizations, but they have not a clue as to how to detect the risk. This
is a clear fishing expedition with almost no chance of meaningful results
except, of course, to inconvenience the dive industry as a whole. Damn.

Lee


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Old 09-13-2007, 11:26 AM
JOF
 
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Default Re: FBI Issues New Scuba Warning (June)

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:46:29 -0400, "Lee Bell"
<pleebell@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>ben bradlee wrote
>
>> http://www.dema.org/associations/101...ing%206-07.pdf

>
>I knew it all along:
>1. WKPP and all people associated with DIR are suspected terrorists. They
>dive deep, long, do advanced training, train in towing other people and do
>not appear to be motivated by profit.
>2. PADI is knowingly providing training to terrorist related individuals for
>profit. Otherwise, their name would not be specifically included in the
>communication while other agencies are not.
>3. Sheldon is a suspected terrorist. He sought scuba training in an area not
>normally known for scuba diving.
>4. YMCA is a suspected terrorist organization. It has a religious aspect.
>5. The Boy Scouts of American is also a suspected terrorist organization.
>They have a religious aspect too.
>
>What a bunch of junk. What this all means is that Homeland Security and the
>FBI are well aware of the potential for use of scuba by terrorist
>organizations, but they have not a clue as to how to detect the risk. This
>is a clear fishing expedition with almost no chance of meaningful results
>except, of course, to inconvenience the dive industry as a whole. Damn.


Popeye's lucky he went thru his suspiciously thorough private learning
process pre-911, and you and ESG with yer years of uncarded dive
shenanigans would be very suspect today. Grumman and Al never should
have admitted to their cave-diving experimentation.

Dayum! I'm probably on the suspected terrorist list just for diving
with y'all. Well, I haven't dived with Grumman, but I was seen having
lunch in public with him. At least it was in Canada. I'm a damned
consorter.

JF

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Old 09-13-2007, 01:40 PM
-hh
 
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Default Re: FBI Issues New Scuba Warning (June)

On Sep 13, 9:46 am, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> ben bradlee wrote
>
> >http://www.dema.org/associations/101...ing%206-07.pdf

>
> ...
> What a bunch of junk. What this all means is that Homeland
> Security and the FBI are well aware of the potential for use of
> scuba ... but they have not a clue ...


Its also interesting that 'someone' released to DEMA a document marked
FOUO with FOIA Exemption statements ... "...not to be released to the
public..." which has turned around and published to the public by DEMA
- think that they have an official DHS authorization on file?


-hh

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Old 09-13-2007, 01:56 PM
Matthias Voss
 
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Default Re: FBI Issues New Scuba Warning (June)

ben bradlee wrote:

> Page 20 of October issue of Scuba Diving.
>
> http://www.dema.org/associations/101...ing%206-07.pdf
>
>


Haircuts. They did not mention haircuts.

Looks like someone's gonna blast up them Wakulla county
caves really soon.

Matthias

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Old 09-13-2007, 03:00 PM
Douglas W. \Popeye\ Frederick
 
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Default Re: FBI Issues New Scuba Warning (June)

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:65lie3lvvdr4v778r19bq0oa9f92sp2tdl@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:46:29 -0400, "Lee Bell"
> <pleebell@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>ben bradlee wrote
>>
>>> http://www.dema.org/associations/101...ing%206-07.pdf

>>
>>I knew it all along:
>>1. WKPP and all people associated with DIR are suspected terrorists. They
>>dive deep, long, do advanced training, train in towing other people and do
>>not appear to be motivated by profit.
>>2. PADI is knowingly providing training to terrorist related individuals
>>for
>>profit. Otherwise, their name would not be specifically included in the
>>communication while other agencies are not.
>>3. Sheldon is a suspected terrorist. He sought scuba training in an area
>>not
>>normally known for scuba diving.
>>4. YMCA is a suspected terrorist organization. It has a religious aspect.
>>5. The Boy Scouts of American is also a suspected terrorist organization.
>>They have a religious aspect too.
>>
>>What a bunch of junk. What this all means is that Homeland Security and
>>the
>>FBI are well aware of the potential for use of scuba by terrorist
>>organizations, but they have not a clue as to how to detect the risk. This
>>is a clear fishing expedition with almost no chance of meaningful results
>>except, of course, to inconvenience the dive industry as a whole. Damn.

>
> Popeye's lucky he went thru his suspiciously


What's your point?

Skip the usual pussy reply and say what you mean.

>thorough private learning
> process pre-911, and you and ESG with yer years of uncarded dive
> shenanigans would be very suspect today. Grumman and Al never should
> have admitted to their cave-diving experimentation.
>
> Dayum! I'm probably on the suspected terrorist list just for diving
> with y'all. Well, I haven't dived with Grumman, but I was seen having
> lunch in public with him. At least it was in Canada. I'm a damned
> consorter.
>
> JF
>



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Old 09-13-2007, 05:31 PM
JOF
 
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Default Re: FBI Issues New Scuba Warning (June)

On Sep 13, 3:00 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> "JOF" <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:65lie3lvvdr4v778r19bq0oa9f92sp2tdl@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:46:29 -0400, "Lee Bell"
> > <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>
> >>ben bradlee wrote

>
> >>>http://www.dema.org/associations/101...ing%206-07.pdf

>
> >>I knew it all along:
> >>1. WKPP and all people associated with DIR are suspected terrorists. They
> >>dive deep, long, do advanced training, train in towing other people and do
> >>not appear to be motivated by profit.
> >>2. PADI is knowingly providing training to terrorist related individuals
> >>for
> >>profit. Otherwise, their name would not be specifically included in the
> >>communication while other agencies are not.
> >>3. Sheldon is a suspected terrorist. He sought scuba training in an area
> >>not
> >>normally known for scuba diving.
> >>4. YMCA is a suspected terrorist organization. It has a religious aspect.
> >>5. The Boy Scouts of American is also a suspected terrorist organization.
> >>They have a religious aspect too.

>
> >>What a bunch of junk. What this all means is that Homeland Security and
> >>the
> >>FBI are well aware of the potential for use of scuba by terrorist
> >>organizations, but they have not a clue as to how to detect the risk. This
> >>is a clear fishing expedition with almost no chance of meaningful results
> >>except, of course, to inconvenience the dive industry as a whole. Damn.

>
> > Popeye's lucky he went thru his suspiciously

>
> What's your point?
>
> Skip the usual pussy reply and say what you mean.


Sheesh, yer touchy. Why don't you finish reading my post before you go
off half-cocked?

> >thorough private learning
> > process pre-911, and you and ESG with yer years of uncarded dive
> > shenanigans would be very suspect today. Grumman and Al never should
> > have admitted to their cave-diving experimentation.

>
> > Dayum! I'm probably on the suspected terrorist list just for diving
> > with y'all. Well, I haven't dived with Grumman, but I was seen having
> > lunch in public with him. At least it was in Canada. I'm a damned
> > consorter.


JF


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Old 09-13-2007, 05:48 PM
Douglas W. \Popeye\ Frederick
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: FBI Issues New Scuba Warning (June)

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189719073.250591.19660@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> On Sep 13, 3:00 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
>> "JOF" <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:65lie3lvvdr4v778r19bq0oa9f92sp2tdl@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:46:29 -0400, "Lee Bell"
>> > <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>
>> >>ben bradlee wrote

>>
>> >>>http://www.dema.org/associations/101...ing%206-07.pdf

>>
>> >>I knew it all along:
>> >>1. WKPP and all people associated with DIR are suspected terrorists.
>> >>They
>> >>dive deep, long, do advanced training, train in towing other people and
>> >>do
>> >>not appear to be motivated by profit.
>> >>2. PADI is knowingly providing training to terrorist related
>> >>individuals
>> >>for
>> >>profit. Otherwise, their name would not be specifically included in the
>> >>communication while other agencies are not.
>> >>3. Sheldon is a suspected terrorist. He sought scuba training in an
>> >>area
>> >>not
>> >>normally known for scuba diving.
>> >>4. YMCA is a suspected terrorist organization. It has a religious
>> >>aspect.
>> >>5. The Boy Scouts of American is also a suspected terrorist
>> >>organization.
>> >>They have a religious aspect too.

>>
>> >>What a bunch of junk. What this all means is that Homeland Security and
>> >>the
>> >>FBI are well aware of the potential for use of scuba by terrorist
>> >>organizations, but they have not a clue as to how to detect the risk.
>> >>This
>> >>is a clear fishing expedition with almost no chance of meaningful
>> >>results
>> >>except, of course, to inconvenience the dive industry as a whole. Damn.

>>
>> > Popeye's lucky he went thru his suspiciously

>>
>> What's your point?
>>
>> Skip the usual pussy reply and say what you mean.

>
> Sheesh, yer touchy.


Not at all.

I've had dealings with your innuendoes scores of times.

>Why don't you finish reading my post before you go
> off half-cocked?


I thought we were going to "skip" this part.

But it's good that you're consistent.

>> >thorough private learning
>> > process pre-911, and you and ESG with yer years of uncarded dive
>> > shenanigans would be very suspect today. Grumman and Al never should
>> > have admitted to their cave-diving experimentation.

>>
>> > Dayum! I'm probably on the suspected terrorist list just for diving
>> > with y'all. Well, I haven't dived with Grumman, but I was seen having
>> > lunch in public with him. At least it was in Canada. I'm a damned
>> > consorter.

>
> JF
>
>



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Old 09-13-2007, 06:09 PM
JOF
 
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Default Re: FBI Issues New Scuba Warning (June)

On Sep 13, 5:48 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> "JOF" <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1189719073.250591.19660@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 13, 3:00 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> >> "JOF" <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:65lie3lvvdr4v778r19bq0oa9f92sp2tdl@4ax.com. ..

>
> >> > On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:46:29 -0400, "Lee Bell"
> >> > <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>
> >> >>ben bradlee wrote

>
> >> >>>http://www.dema.org/associations/101...ing%206-07.pdf

>
> >> >>I knew it all along:
> >> >>1. WKPP and all people associated with DIR are suspected terrorists.
> >> >>They
> >> >>dive deep, long, do advanced training, train in towing other people and
> >> >>do
> >> >>not appear to be motivated by profit.
> >> >>2. PADI is knowingly providing training to terrorist related
> >> >>individuals
> >> >>for
> >> >>profit. Otherwise, their name would not be specifically included in the
> >> >>communication while other agencies are not.
> >> >>3. Sheldon is a suspected terrorist. He sought scuba training in an
> >> >>area
> >> >>not
> >> >>normally known for scuba diving.
> >> >>4. YMCA is a suspected terrorist organization. It has a religious
> >> >>aspect.
> >> >>5. The Boy Scouts of American is also a suspected terrorist
> >> >>organization.
> >> >>They have a religious aspect too.

>
> >> >>What a bunch of junk. What this all means is that Homeland Security and
> >> >>the
> >> >>FBI are well aware of the potential for use of scuba by terrorist
> >> >>organizations, but they have not a clue as to how to detect the risk.
> >> >>This
> >> >>is a clear fishing expedition with almost no chance of meaningful
> >> >>results
> >> >>except, of course, to inconvenience the dive industry as a whole. Damn.

>
> >> > Popeye's lucky he went thru his suspiciously

>
> >> What's your point?

>
> >> Skip the usual pussy reply and say what you mean.

>
> > Sheesh, yer touchy.

>
> Not at all.
>
> I've had dealings with your innuendoes scores of times.
>
> >Why don't you finish reading my post before you go
> > off half-cocked?

>
> I thought we were going to "skip" this part.
>
> But it's good that you're consistent.


I hadn't realized how much you missed our squabbling. Glad I could
liven up yer day.

On a side note, we had one of the last surviving operating steam
engines in Canada here in town the other night. Number 9, I think it
was built in Montreal.
http://www.steam-train.org/new/newsapril07
http://www.steam-train.org/photoGal.htm
http://ghra.ca/newsletter/2007/switchstand_3_3_4_1.pdf
http://www.essexterminalrailway.com/history_m.html

JF




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Old 09-13-2007, 07:34 PM
Douglas W. \Popeye\ Frederick
 
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Default Re: FBI Issues New Scuba Warning (June)

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189721345.573353.177060@19g2000hsx.googlegro ups.com...
> On Sep 13, 5:48 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
>> "JOF" <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1189719073.250591.19660@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 13, 3:00 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>> > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
>> >> "JOF" <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:65lie3lvvdr4v778r19bq0oa9f92sp2tdl@4ax.com. ..

>>
>> >> > On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:46:29 -0400, "Lee Bell"
>> >> > <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>
>> >> >>ben bradlee wrote

>>
>> >> >>>http://www.dema.org/associations/101...ing%206-07.pdf

>>
>> >> >>I knew it all along:
>> >> >>1. WKPP and all people associated with DIR are suspected terrorists.
>> >> >>They
>> >> >>dive deep, long, do advanced training, train in towing other people
>> >> >>and
>> >> >>do
>> >> >>not appear to be motivated by profit.
>> >> >>2. PADI is knowingly providing training to terrorist related
>> >> >>individuals
>> >> >>for
>> >> >>profit. Otherwise, their name would not be specifically included in
>> >> >>the
>> >> >>communication while other agencies are not.
>> >> >>3. Sheldon is a suspected terrorist. He sought scuba training in an
>> >> >>area
>> >> >>not
>> >> >>normally known for scuba diving.
>> >> >>4. YMCA is a suspected terrorist organization. It has a religious
>> >> >>aspect.
>> >> >>5. The Boy Scouts of American is also a suspected terrorist
>> >> >>organization.
>> >> >>They have a religious aspect too.

>>
>> >> >>What a bunch of junk. What this all means is that Homeland Security
>> >> >>and
>> >> >>the
>> >> >>FBI are well aware of the potential for use of scuba by terrorist
>> >> >>organizations, but they have not a clue as to how to detect the
>> >> >>risk.
>> >> >>This
>> >> >>is a clear fishing expedition with almost no chance of meaningful
>> >> >>results
>> >> >>except, of course, to inconvenience the dive industry as a whole.
>> >> >>Damn.

>>
>> >> > Popeye's lucky he went thru his suspiciously

>>
>> >> What's your point?

>>
>> >> Skip the usual pussy reply and say what you mean.

>>
>> > Sheesh, yer touchy.

>>
>> Not at all.
>>
>> I've had dealings with your innuendoes scores of times.
>>
>> >Why don't you finish reading my post before you go
>> > off half-cocked?

>>
>> I thought we were going to "skip" this part.
>>
>> But it's good that you're consistent.

>
> I hadn't realized how much you missed our squabbling. Glad I could
> liven up yer day.


I'm always squabbling with someone, don't over rate your importance.

I'm just holding the light, in this case, to your extensively documented
history of innuendo and insinuation.

And as you know, I have a whole nuther NG to terrorize.

> On a side note, we had one of the last surviving operating steam
> engines in Canada here in town the other night. Number 9, I think it
> was built in Montreal.
> http://www.steam-train.org/new/newsapril07
> http://www.steam-train.org/photoGal.htm
> http://ghra.ca/newsletter/2007/switchstand_3_3_4_1.pdf
> http://www.essexterminalrailway.com/history_m.html
>
> JF
>
>
>
>



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