Oldest original C-card around

"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
>Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
>very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
>for real looks " from the young'uns)?
>
NAUI type written paper card 8/24/69. It's faded but in pretty good shape,
been kept in a fishing license holder. I mostly use a plactic replacement
card I got awhile back, nobody has to ask if its OK.

Steve

"if two" <iftwo@iftwo.com> wrote in message
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> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the
>>original ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone
>>like me use a very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few
>>" is this card for real looks " from the young'uns)?
>>
> NAUI type written paper card 8/24/69. It's faded but in pretty good shape,
> been kept in a fishing license holder. I mostly use a plactic replacement
> card I got awhile back, nobody has to ask if its OK.

OK I think you win. None of the blokes that I know who were diving in the
60's had a C-card they just went diving.

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:37:28 +1100, dechucka wrote:

> OK I think you win. None of the blokes that I know who were diving in the
> 60's had a C-card they just went diving.

The 'need' for a C-card was directly related to the shops requiring one in
order for you to get an air fill... Even into the mid-1980s, I was able to
fairly easily get air fills without a C-card... I can even remember
renting gear in the early 1980s without a C-card... I suspect that quite a
few of us from the early days just didn't bother getting one until they
absolutely *had* to... I managed to skate by until 1999... Was taking a
trip to Cozumel and figured that I wouldn't be able to skate by down
there, so I went and got rubberstamped...

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"Grumman-581" <grumman581-usenet-2008@spambob.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:37:28 +1100, dechucka wrote:
>
>> OK I think you win. None of the blokes that I know who were diving in the
>> 60's had a C-card they just went diving.
>
> The 'need' for a C-card was directly related to the shops requiring one in
> order for you to get an air fill...

Yes

>Even into the mid-1980s, I was able to
> fairly easily get air fills without a C-card... I can even remember
> renting gear in the early 1980s without a C-card... I suspect that quite a
> few of us from the early days just didn't bother getting one until they
> absolutely *had* to... I managed to skate by until 1999... Was taking a
> trip to Cozumel and figured that I wouldn't be able to skate by down
> there, so I went and got rubberstamped...

My first o/s diving in Asia and America was with a faked up card with
picture. In the late 70's I needed a card to get gear and fills if you were
"unknown" or unwilling to pay the price.

"Grumman-581" <grumman581-usenet-2008@spambob.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:37:28 +1100, dechucka wrote:
>
>> OK I think you win. None of the blokes that I know who were diving in the
>> 60's had a C-card they just went diving.
>
> The 'need' for a C-card was directly related to the shops requiring one in
> order for you to get an air fill... Even into the mid-1980s, I was able to
> fairly easily get air fills without a C-card... I can even remember
> renting gear in the early 1980s without a C-card... I suspect that quite a
> few of us from the early days just didn't bother getting one until they
> absolutely *had* to... I managed to skate by until 1999... Was taking a
> trip to Cozumel and figured that I wouldn't be able to skate by down
> there, so I went and got rubberstamped...

That was more or less true in my case. My first training was through a YMCA
instructor that needed to keep his training certification current. That was
in 1962. No card was issued. By 1969, some local shops were beginning to
ask for certification cards for fills and, every once in a while, would
suggest they would no longer be doing fills for those that could not present
one. It was, then, and is now, simply a way to increase their own revenues.

I simply went someplace else until, in 1969, I had a chance to get certified
more or less for free. I was a lifeguard and swimming instructor for Dade
County. The pool where I worked, offered NAUI scuba training which we were
allowed to take for no more than the cost of the boat ride for check out
dives. It was a deal whose time was right. I took the course and got the
card.

Lee

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:09:17 -0400, Lee Bell wrote:

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> That was more or less true in my case. My first training was through a
> YMCA instructor that needed to keep his training certification current.
> That was in 1962. No card was issued. By 1969, some local shops were
> beginning to ask for certification cards for fills and, every once in a
> while, would suggest they would no longer be doing fills for those that
> could not present one. It was, then, and is now, simply a way to increase
> their own revenues.

Agreed... One thing that I liked over in Slidell when I was working on the
Navy contract over in New Orleans was that the local fire extinguisher
store who did the hydros also did air fills for the fire department and
as such, no SCUBA certification was required nor was a yearly visual
inspection required... If it passed the last hydro, it was good enough for
them... I wonder if they survived Katrina...

> I simply went someplace else until, in 1969, I had a chance to get
> certified more or less for free. I was a lifeguard and swimming
> instructor for Dade County. The pool where I worked, offered NAUI scuba
> training which we were allowed to take for no more than the cost of the
> boat ride for check out dives. It was a deal whose time was right. I
> took the course and got the card.

Grace needed to learn to dive, so I figured that we would take the private
course and the instructor could devote all of his/her time to Grace
whereas I would just get rubberstamped... After the pool sessions, I would
put Grace in our pool and go over things that I thought that she should
know that they weren't teaching... Unfortunately, she often has a problem
equalizing pressure and combined with her tendency for motion sickness,
she doesn't dive all that much (as you saw on our last trip to the
Keys)... Kaitlyn, on the other hand, is probably a better diver by now
than Grace... Luckily, she doesn't read USENET, so she won't see that I
said that... <grin>

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> NAUI type written paper card 8/24/69. It's faded but in pretty good shape,
> been kept in a fishing license holder. I mostly use a plactic replacement
> card I got awhile back, nobody has to ask if its OK.
>
> Steve

Congratulations. You just took over the lead. My NAUI card is dated 8-30-69.
You beat me by 6 days.

Lee

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:05:36 -0400, Lee Bell wrote:

> Congratulations. You just took over the lead. My NAUI card is dated
> 8-30-69. You beat me by 6 days.

Send me a high resolution scanned in image of your NAUI card and we can
fix that real quick...

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:31:36 +1100, "dechucka"
<dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:

>I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
>Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
>very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
>for real looks " from the young'uns)?
>

PADI & NAUI

March 11 1972

Inst: Dennis Busse

Long Beach CA.

The PADI card has a photo but I'm not going to show it to anyone.

Rick Simms