Tell me again that they don't target Jews.

chilly wrote

> Seems to me that one of the biggest problems in the world is that there is
> never "one less death merchant".

You've been listening.

The problem that's hard to deal with is that bullies don't respond to
kindness and reason. Those that would impose their will on others with force
only respond to resistance with force. Sometimes, the only way to avoid
being a victim is to refuse to be a victim.

In "society," we've gone a long way toward replacing individual defense with
group defense. Why go one on one with a bully, when you can do so much more
effectively as a group. That's a fine and proven method of controlling some
violence. What we've forgotten, though, is that it can't deal with all
violence.

Sometimes, you just have to do it yourself.

Lee

dazed and confuzzed wrote:
> janusz_w@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> On 7 Mar, 03:16, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical
>>> seminary
>>> and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday,
>>> killing eight
>>> people and wounding nine before he was slain, police and rescue workers
>>> said.
>>>
>>> Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip praised the operation in a
>>> statement, and
>>> thousands of Palestinians took to the streets of Gaza to celebrate.
>>>
>>> All it would have taken to reduce the toll was one armed citizen.
>>>
>>> http://news.aol.com/story/_a/8-die-i...alem-seminary/...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It's not about your second amendment and all that BS. It's about war,
>> real bloody war, where both sides for the last 60+ years used
>> terrorist methods. With little effort you can also find why this
>> particular yeshiva was chosen as a target and why the Palestinians
>> were celebrating. Tip - 130 vs. 8
>>
>> Maybe you need some more reading
>> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull
>>
>> http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...8FE9BAD672.htm
>>
>> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/961727.html
>>
>> Janusz
>
>
>
> A big difference. These palestinians supported the terrorists and their
> organization. Allowed them to live near them.
>
> Not so for the jews.
>
> Your argument won't wash.
>
> Unless you are anti semite.

Me thinks Janusz only wanted to avoid to make the blunt suggestion to
retaliate by melting down the Kaaba.

Matthias

janusz_w@hotmail.com wrote:
> On 7 Mar, 23:16, dazed and confuzzed <dedmann@comcast_remove.net>
> wrote:
>
>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On 7 Mar, 03:16, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical seminary
>>>>and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday, killing eight
>>>>people and wounding nine before he was slain, police and rescue workers
>>>>said.
>>
>>>>Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip praised the operation in a statement, and
>>>>thousands of Palestinians took to the streets of Gaza to celebrate.
>>
>>>>All it would have taken to reduce the toll was one armed citizen.
>>
>>>>http://news.aol.com/story/_a/8-die-i...alem-seminary/...
>>
>>>It's not about your second amendment and all that BS. It's about war,
>>>real bloody war, where both sides for the last 60+ years used
>>>terrorist methods. With little effort you can also find why this
>>>particular yeshiva was chosen as a target and why the Palestinians
>>>were celebrating. Tip - 130 vs. 8
>>
>>>Maybe you need some more reading
>>>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...546422275&page...
>>>http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...36-8BCD-558FE9...
>>>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/961727.html
>>
>>>Janusz
>>
>>A big difference.
>
> No life is a life.
>
>>These palestinians supported the terrorists and their
>>organization.
>
> So did the Jews.
>
>
>>Allowed them to live near them.
>
> Ever heard about West Bank settlers?
>
>
>>Not so for the jews.
>
> As nowadays subtleties are probably completely unknown for you at
> least check Irgun (even at wikipedia).
>
>
>>Your argument won't wash.
>>
>>Unless you are anti semite.
>
>
> Are you a Jew?
>
> Janusz
>

No.



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On Mar 7, 1:29*am, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> One person entered the seminary and killed 8 and wounded 9 before anyone
> stopped him. How many of those armed citizens do you suppose were present in
> that seminary? My guess is that it's another one of those gun free zones we
> keep reading about deaths in.

Once again you display your utter lack of common sense and
intelligence.

A rabbinical seminary is like a priest seminary or a monastery. By
virtue of their faith, most priest or monk candidates probably eschew
firearms like they eschew sex. It's not as if they need to declare it
a "gun free" area because no one would even consider the idea of
carrying a gun to class while they're studying religion. It's about
the absolute nuttiest statement I've heard you make to date and that's
saying a lot.

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
news:befa9e1a-4e02-448d-b911-3261f744b174@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
<snip>
>> You mean, like you want to disarm criminals (after the law abiding)
>> here?
>>
>> Wow.
>>
>> It's just epiphany after epiphany for you today.

>If the entire world were disarmed, it would be a more peaceful place.
>If that's an epiphany, maybe you need one.

No, it wouldn't The violence would just take different forms.

Dennis

On Mar 8, 8:31*pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
wrote:
> "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:befa9e1a-4e02-448d-b911-3261f744b174@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> <snip>
>
> >> You mean, like you want to disarm criminals (after the law abiding)
> >> here?
>
> >> Wow.
>
> >> It's just epiphany after epiphany for you today.
> >If the entire world were disarmed, it would be a more peaceful place.
> >If that's an epiphany, maybe you need one.
>
> No, it wouldn't The violence would just take different forms.

Yeah, everyone would yell at each other instead. Maybe even a slap on
the cheek. Ouch.

Anyway, got to cut this one short. Aggressor bus is almost here.
Back in a week.

"Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
news:58573$47d36aa4$4c49ae41$4946@KNOLOGY.NET...

> No, it wouldn't The violence would just take different forms.

Only an idiot would think it even possible to "disarm the entire world", let
alone propose such a complete line of vapid bullshit as a foundation for
anything.

People have been armed and killing each other since the first primate picked
up a rock a caved a lawyers skull in with it.

Greg Mossman wrote

>>If the entire world were disarmed, it would be a more peaceful place.
>>If that's an epiphany, maybe you need one.

Works for me. Start with the bad guys. Let me know when you've finished with
them and I'll help with the rest.

"Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
news:5c7ab$47d3ed38$4c49ae41$31716@KNOLOGY.NET...

> And before that, they just used their hands.
>
> I guess there wouldn;t be any more rocks lying about.
> Nor anything else that might cause injury.
> Five day waitng period and background check when trying to buy rope,
chain,
> or even an extension cord?

Or box knives, kitchen knives with points, airplane tickets...

Then We would be a real socialism, more like the Chinese...

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080309/D8V9TLL80.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...page_id=181 1

>"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
news:41c887c7-e9df-4f05-9704-109d3e91dd8d@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>On Mar 8, 8:31 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
>wrote:
>> "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:befa9e1a-4e02-448d-b911-3261f744b174@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> <snip>
>>
>> >> You mean, like you want to disarm criminals (after the law abiding)
>> >> here?
>>
>> >> Wow.
>>
>> >> It's just epiphany after epiphany for you today.
>> >If the entire world were disarmed, it would be a more peaceful place.
>> >If that's an epiphany, maybe you need one.
>>
>> No, it wouldn't The violence would just take different forms.
>
>Yeah, everyone would yell at each other instead. Maybe even a slap on
>the cheek. Ouch.

Uhm....wrong. Folks have been killed by manual strangulation, being beaten
to death, without any weapons involved other than hands and feet.
So if you truly wanted to "disarm" the world....

>Anyway, got to cut this one short. Aggressor bus is almost here.
>Back in a week.

have fun.

Dennis