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  #11  
Old 03-09-2008, 09:25 AM
mat.voss
 
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Default Re: More dive talk



chilly wrote:
> "No Spam" <nospam@all.please.net> wrote in message
> news:47d3503a$0$4076$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net. ..
>
>>On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:55:35 +0000, chilly wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Grumman-581" <grumman581-usenet-2008@spambob.net> wrote in message
>>>newsan.2008.03.08.08.12.48.515000@grumman58 1-usenet-2008-spambob-

>>
>>net...
>>
>>>>On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:27:17 +0000, chilly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sound like you need to rethink your banana wearing practices...
>>>
>>>Yeah, maybe I should stuff it in the hole in my heart?

>>
>>Do you have a hole in your heart?

>
>
> Maybe, dunno for sure. It's more likely that I have a hole where my heart
> should be.


Have a closer look.
I myself have at least 4 holes in my heart.
Right side intake, right side outlet, left side intake, left side outlet.
I think that makes me a two-stroke.

Matthias

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Old 03-09-2008, 09:31 AM
Scott
 
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"mat.voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:fr0oh5$37h$03$1@news.t-online.com...

> Have a closer look.
> I myself have at least 4 holes in my heart.
> Right side intake, right side outlet, left side intake, left side outlet.
> I think that makes me a two-stroke.


No, you have valves...


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  #13  
Old 03-09-2008, 09:33 AM
mat.voss
 
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Scott wrote:

> "mat.voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:fr0oh5$37h$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>
>
>>Have a closer look.
>>I myself have at least 4 holes in my heart.
>>Right side intake, right side outlet, left side intake, left side outlet.
>>I think that makes me a two-stroke.

>
>
> No, you have valves...


I hope so... Definitely no PFO.

Matthias

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  #14  
Old 03-09-2008, 09:42 AM
Scott
 
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"mat.voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Scott wrote:


> > "mat.voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
> > news:fr0oh5$37h$03$1@news.t-online.com...


> >>Have a closer look.
> >>I myself have at least 4 holes in my heart.
> >>Right side intake, right side outlet, left side intake, left side

outlet.
> >>I think that makes me a two-stroke.


> > No, you have valves...


> I hope so... Definitely no PFO.


I think that makes us, like, an 8 stroke...


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  #15  
Old 03-09-2008, 10:22 AM
Al Wells
 
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Default Re: More dive talk

In article <_aadnSJQwojCe07anZ2dnUVZ_tCrnZ2d@wavecable.com> ,
pugetsounddiver@gmail.com says...
>
> "mat.voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:fr0oh5$37h$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>
> > Have a closer look.
> > I myself have at least 4 holes in my heart.
> > Right side intake, right side outlet, left side intake, left side outlet.
> > I think that makes me a two-stroke.

>
> No, you have valves...


My favorite bike (RD350) was a 2 stroke and had reed valves
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:38 AM
Scott
 
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"Al Wells" <al.wells@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.223dbc95b2349a9d989a0e@news.verizon.net.. .
> In article <_aadnSJQwojCe07anZ2dnUVZ_tCrnZ2d@wavecable.com> ,
> pugetsounddiver@gmail.com says...
> >
> > "mat.voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
> > news:fr0oh5$37h$03$1@news.t-online.com...
> >
> > > Have a closer look.
> > > I myself have at least 4 holes in my heart.
> > > Right side intake, right side outlet, left side intake, left side

outlet.
> > > I think that makes me a two-stroke.

> >
> > No, you have valves...

>
> My favorite bike (RD350) was a 2 stroke and had reed valves


Amen.

I had 6 of them (RD350/400's) at various times, many of my friends rode them
too.

Absolutely brutal little bikes.

We had one doing 63 hp at 13,000, and the powerband was from like 8500 on;
below that you couldn't get the clutch out.

My next fave was the 650 Turbo Seca. It was like a big RD350/400 and a lot
faster.

Still, there is nothing like a 120 cubic inch Panhead in a rigid frame that
weighs 450 pounds full.

http://www.leinewebercams.com/SHOVEL...EAD%20CAMS.htm

Check out the J4 and the L5 cams.











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Old 03-09-2008, 12:29 PM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: More dive talk

Scott wrote

>> Have a closer look.
>> I myself have at least 4 holes in my heart.
>> Right side intake, right side outlet, left side intake, left side outlet.
>> I think that makes me a two-stroke.

>
> No, you have valves...


Reed valves. He's definitely a two stroke.


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  #18  
Old 03-09-2008, 12:55 PM
mat.voss
 
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Al Wells wrote:

> In article <_aadnSJQwojCe07anZ2dnUVZ_tCrnZ2d@wavecable.com> ,
> pugetsounddiver@gmail.com says...
>
>>"mat.voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>news:fr0oh5$37h$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>
>>
>>>Have a closer look.
>>>I myself have at least 4 holes in my heart.
>>>Right side intake, right side outlet, left side intake, left side outlet.
>>>I think that makes me a two-stroke.

>>
>>No, you have valves...

>
>
> My favorite bike (RD350) was a 2 stroke and had reed valves


Reeds like in g-reed-y

Matthias

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Old 03-09-2008, 04:49 PM
crownfield
 
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In article <lmCAj.64269$pM4.8747@pd7urf1no>, slarson@shaw.canada says...
-
-"mag3" <zmpmag3-plongee@yahoo.com> wrote in message
-news:3nv4t3dhjgh1sn6iqo7t8f2d4cjocc5cuq@4ax.com...
-> On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:27:17 GMT, "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote:
->
-> >I'm sorry to report that on my most recent trip, I had another mild
-episode
-> >of skin bends.
-> >
-> >This episode was significantly less troublesome/painful than last year,
-and
-> >had I not had that significant skinbend event last year, I probably
-wouldn't
-> >even have noticed this time.
->
-> Do you recall any similarities or differences in your diving patterns that
-may
-> have brought on the symptoms as wiith previous episodes? That is, this
-time,
-> did you dive more/less often or in same/different conditions such that the
-> symptoms occured than when diving where the symtpoms did not occur?
-> Do any particular dives "stand out" this time that haven't when you don't
-> get the condition?
->
-> Sorry, my computer brain at work....
->
-
-Nope, I've thought that over carefully, and even last time, I couldn't think
-of anything unusual. The last time, I had had one dive, that I felt I may
-have ascended too rapidly on the last 15 feet. Other than that, nothing
-seemed out of the ordinary on any of the dives. That said, I've only just
-started to be extra observant.

any prior activities that might be causes?
dehydration?

have you added any safety factor to your tables?


-
-> ____________________________________________
-> Regards,
->
-> Arnold
-
-
-

--
Bob Crownfield
crownfield@verizon.net
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  #20  
Old 03-09-2008, 06:18 PM
chilly
 
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"mat.voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
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>
>
> chilly wrote:
>
> > Over the years, I've had the odd event of numbness around my mouth and
> > tingling in my pinkie and ring fingers. Hey, I'm not talking every dive

or
> > even every tenth dive. These are all very little things that I just

thought
> > little about at the time but now, and like I said, I'm trying not to get
> > paranoid, but . . ..

>
> Sounds more like an affection of nerves/vertebrae, or bad sleeping habits.


Do you think I'm sneaking a nap in on my dives?

> Like squeezing vessels by an unfortunate combination of sleep position
> and mattress.


That doesn't explain why I'm fine when I go into the water and have the
symptoms when I come out of the water.

>
> Or a problem with Vitamin B metabolisation.


??

> I don't know wether a mild diabetes could create such nerve problems.


No diabetes, mild or otherwise.

> Vitamin B/Magnesium related problems may be exacerbated by substance

abuse.

??

> An important tool to differentiate is, go diving and evaluate if the
> problem go away under pressure.
>
> Similar with tiredness. In diving,it is mostly a micro bubble related
> symptom, and should go away with normobaric 100% Oxygen breathing.


Well, I went diving the next day, did 3 or 4 dives and the day after that
and so on and so on. I do not remember being that tired again.

> Another consideration should be to invetigate evaentually changed
> drinking habits, or other leisure activities.


You mean like give up diving? ;^)

> My last years decompression problem (considered toatally "undeserved",
> even by some experts) could be partially tracked down to a combination
> of lacking hydration ( caused by drinking habits, formerly wine,
> changing to cidre... your intestines will know the difference...),


I make special effort to ensure I'm well hydrated. I am not as successful
in ensuring I am well-rested because I have had espisodes of insomnia
throughout my adult life.

> and
> some strenous walking( 18+11+10 km) through the mountaineous heather at
> a pace of more than 4 miles/hour.
> Others were current, use of reel while fighting current.


I do lots of walking and dancing, when on the majority of my dive trips.
Which is at least two of the reasons, I'm not currently interested in a
live-aboard dive vacation.



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