OT -- Is it worth it?

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:51:54 -0700, janusz_w@hotmail.com wrote:

> Some parts doesn't fit.

Oh? Elaborate... To the best of my knowledge, it is a circa-1950s Russian
SKS... It's definitely not a Chinese one since the parts are machined
instead of stamped like the Chinese did...

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On 14 Mar, 14:22, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net>
wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:51:54 -0700, janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Some parts doesn't fit.
>
> Oh? Elaborate... To the best of my knowledge, it is a circa-1950s Russian
> SKS... It's definitely not a Chinese one since the parts are machined
> instead of stamped like the Chinese did...

There were a couple more manufacturers. Regarding Chinese ones at the
beginning Russians supervised there factories and first batches were
from original, Soviets parts. Around 1950 all Soviet SKS were
manufactured by Tula factory and they bear markings which clearily
shows the year of production and what is also important some changes
to the original design were introduced. What you have looks for me
like SKS-type rebuild in your country from parts of different
manufacturers. To be 100% sure I would need more detailed pictures.

Janusz

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:38:27 -0700, janusz_w@hotmail.com wrote:

> There were a couple more manufacturers. Regarding Chinese ones at the
> beginning Russians supervised there factories and first batches were from
> original, Soviets parts. Around 1950 all Soviet SKS were manufactured by
> Tula factory and they bear markings which clearily shows the year of
> production and what is also important some changes to the original design
> were introduced. What you have looks for me like SKS-type rebuild in
> your country from parts of different manufacturers. To be 100% sure I
> would need more detailed pictures.

Interesting... I'll see if I can get around to taking some more this
weekend... I had thought that the choices were basically late model
Chinese which equals stamped and older Russian which equals milled...

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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:38:27 -0700, janusz_w@hotmail.com wrote:

> There were a couple more manufacturers. Regarding Chinese ones at the
> beginning Russians supervised there factories and first batches were
> from original, Soviets parts. Around 1950 all Soviet SKS were
> manufactured by Tula factory and they bear markings which clearily shows
> the year of production and what is also important some changes to the
> original design were introduced. What you have looks for me like
> SKS-type rebuild in your country from parts of different manufacturers.
> To be 100% sure I would need more detailed pictures.

I'm not sure that I can create any photos more detailed than what I posted
(assuming you clicked the link)...
http://grumman581.googlepages.com/ru...n-sks-full.jpg

I looked at it a few minutes ago and although there are some small
symbolic markings on it, I really need a magnifying glass to be able to
make them out... The serial numbers on the bolt, trigger guard, and
receiver all match and are 0P486 where 'P' is the Cyrillic character 'P'
in the following table...

http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/cyrillic.jpg Or this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe_%28Cyrillic%29 Kind of looks like the
Greek letter pi...

It also has this serial number stamped on the stock up near the barrel...

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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:27:52 -0800, Scott wrote:

> A shitty one.
>
> They work, but they don't have the fit and finish.

I have the Beretta 96FS, so it would be interesting to compare them to
each other side by side...

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"Grumman-581" <grumman581-usenet-2008@spambob.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:01:49 -0500, dazed and confuzzed wrote:

> > $380 is an ok price. Not great, but ok.

> > New price is $438 plus shipping and FFL transfer.
> > http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/31826

> Probably plus tax too... Figure 8.25% around here, so another $36... Plus
> at least $20 for the FFL transfer fee... Plus shipping of at least $20
> since you are not *supposed* to to normal ground shipping... Brings a
> total of $514 vs $380... Hmmm... Makes the $380 sound good...

> > Or do you allow private F to F sales in your state?

> This is Texas... Face to face sales are allowed along with pretty much
> anything else... Of course, I'll run the serial number of the gun just in
> case... I prefer this sort of transaction if at all possible since there
> is no federal record of it... It's not paranoia when it's true...

Now there is record and a picture.

"nitespark" <nitespark@cox.net> wrote in message
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> I have seen them in gun stores. Never shot one. I had a guy qualify
> with one as his own personal weapon. My impression. Its a Beretta
wannabe.

A shitty one.

They work, but they don't have the fit and finish.

On 14 Mar, 15:55, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net>
wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:38:27 -0700, janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > There were a couple more manufacturers. Regarding Chinese ones at the
> > beginning Russians supervised there factories and first batches were
> > from original, Soviets parts. Around 1950 all Soviet SKS were
> > manufactured by Tula factory and they bear markings which clearily shows
> > the year of production and what is also important some changes to the
> > original design were introduced. What you have looks for me like
> > SKS-type rebuild in your country from parts of different manufacturers.
> > To be 100% sure I would need more detailed pictures.
>
> I'm not sure that I can create any photos more detailed than what I posted
> (assuming you clicked the link)...http://grumman581.googlepages.com/ru...n-sks-full.jpg
>
> I looked at it a few minutes ago and although there are some small
> symbolic markings on it, I really need a magnifying glass to be able to
> make them out... The serial numbers on the bolt, trigger guard, and
> receiver all match and are 0P486 where 'P' is the Cyrillic character 'P'
> in the following table...
>
> http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/id...cyrillic.jpgOr this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe_%28Cyrillic%29Kind of looks like the
> Greek letter pi...
>
> It also has this serial number stamped on the stock up near the barrel...

check this web page
http://yooperj.com/

Janusz

<janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 14 Mar, 04:58, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net>
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:38:18 -0600, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> http://grumman581.googlepages.com/firearms
>>
> Your SKS doesn't look like Russian one from 1950

The SKS Russian or Chinese made was a crap gun for anything apart from
putting bullets with your mates into an area ( the Russian manufactured was
better most went into the area). The SKS was popular among the gun hoon in
Aus at one stage, was cheap ( looked the part) made a big bang and if you
fired enough shots you may hit something, road signs were popular. A non
modified SKS as serious gun except for the military what a joke. Was it the
Garrard the marines issued in WW2 which was crap so they used to steal the
Army's guns?

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:25:29 +1100, dechucka wrote:

> Right, it is a cheap crappy gun good for putting bullets into an area.
> Good as a military weaon good for the gun hoons but good for serious
> shooting NO

I've known people who used it for deer hunting... A 30-30 has an energy of
about 1800 ft-lbs... A 7.62x39 goes for about 1550 ft-lbs... Due to the
more aerodynamic shape of the 7.62x39 bullet, after 100 yards, the 30-30
pretty much comes out the loser... Most hunting that I used a 30-30 on
though did not lend itself to seeing anything that was 100 yards away from
you anyway...

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