Reference check - ScubaToys, LeisurePro

Seeking the collective sage advice from this group as to whether there are less-than-obvious pitfalls to buying scuba gear via the internet and, specifically, from ScubaToys or LeisurePro. The price difference in dive computers as soon as one is north of the 49th parallel seems quite unreasonable. While I'm happy enough to pay the extra price at my LDS for something like a BCD that has to "fit", selection of a dive computer seems to be quite reasonably made by doing research on the internet.

T.I.A.
Wayne

Wayne wrote:
> Seeking the collective sage advice from this group as to whether there are less-than-obvious pitfalls to buying scuba gear via the internet and, specifically, from ScubaToys or LeisurePro. The price difference in dive computers as soon as one is north of the 49th parallel seems quite unreasonable. While I'm happy enough to pay the extra price at my LDS for something like a BCD that has to "fit", selection of a dive computer seems to be quite reasonably made by doing research on the internet.
>
> T.I.A.
> Wayne
The main thing about getting your computer (or other dive gear) on the
Internet is guarantee. Some of the manufactures actually will not
guarantee items sold on the Internet.

I have had one computer die and needed service, but since I had bought
it at my LDS they took care of it and I didn't have to worry about
sending it somewhere by mail where it was just going to be sent
somewhere else to be fixed.

Dennis

I've been buying gear from LeisurePro for years. Never had a problem.
I even send my gear to them each year to be serviced.

Wayne wrote:
> Seeking the collective sage advice from this group as to whether there are less-than-obvious pitfalls to buying scuba gear via the internet and, specifically, from ScubaToys or LeisurePro. The price difference in dive computers as soon as one is north of the 49th parallel seems quite unreasonable. While I'm happy enough to pay the extra price at my LDS for something like a BCD that has to "fit", selection of a dive computer seems to be quite reasonably made by doing research on the internet.
>
> T.I.A.
> Wayne
The main thing about getting your computer (or other dive gear) on the
Internet is guarantee. Some of the manufactures actually will not
guarantee items sold on the Internet.

I have had one computer die and needed service, but since I had bought
it at my LDS they took care of it and I didn't have to worry about
sending it somewhere by mail where it was just going to be sent
somewhere else to be fixed.

Dennis

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 05:34:38 GMT, "Wayne" <myranger17@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>>Seeking the collective sage advice from this group as to whether there are
>>less-than-obvious pitfalls to buying scuba gear
>>via the internet and, specifically, from ScubaToys or LeisurePro. The
>>price difference in dive computers as soon as one is
>>north of the 49th parallel seems quite unreasonable. While I'm happy
>>enough to pay the extra price at my LDS for something
>>like a BCD that has to "fit", selection of a dive computer seems to be
>>quite reasonably made by doing research on the internet.
>
> Depending on where you are up here you should check your LDS for end
> of season deals. I've seen perfectly good rental units go out cheap.

If you don't mind a computer that someone else likely peed on.

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 05:34:38 GMT, "Wayne" <myranger17@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>Seeking the collective sage advice from this group as to whether there are less-than-obvious pitfalls to buying scuba gear
>via the internet and, specifically, from ScubaToys or LeisurePro. The price difference in dive computers as soon as one is
>north of the 49th parallel seems quite unreasonable. While I'm happy enough to pay the extra price at my LDS for something
>like a BCD that has to "fit", selection of a dive computer seems to be quite reasonably made by doing research on the internet.

Depending on where you are up here you should check your LDS for end
of season deals. I've seen perfectly good rental units go out cheap.

JF


Let me apologize up front right now
because I know I'm bound to be wrong
about something some time.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:26:12 -0800, "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com>
wrote:

>"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4sgpm19pk3mclgv340fk3m9cvcdvskjeme@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 05:34:38 GMT, "Wayne" <myranger17@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>Seeking the collective sage advice from this group as to whether there are
>>>less-than-obvious pitfalls to buying scuba gear
>>>via the internet and, specifically, from ScubaToys or LeisurePro. The
>>>price difference in dive computers as soon as one is
>>>north of the 49th parallel seems quite unreasonable. While I'm happy
>>>enough to pay the extra price at my LDS for something
>>>like a BCD that has to "fit", selection of a dive computer seems to be
>>>quite reasonably made by doing research on the internet.
>>
>> Depending on where you are up here you should check your LDS for end
>> of season deals. I've seen perfectly good rental units go out cheap.
>
>If you don't mind a computer that someone else likely peed on.

Jeez. Where do you wear the damned thing? But I guess Sink The Stink
would work on a computer too. Might leave you smelling a tad effete
amongst a herd of manly boat divers though.

JF

Let me apologize up front right now
because I know I'm bound to be wrong
about something some time.

> Seeking the collective sage advice from this group as to whether there are
> less-than-obvious pitfalls to buying scuba gear via the internet and, specifically, from
> ScubaToys or LeisurePro. The price difference in dive computers as soon as one is
> north of the 49th parallel seems quite unreasonable. While I'm happy enough to pay
> the extra price at my LDS for something like a BCD that has to "fit", selection of a
> dive computer seems to be quite reasonably made by doing research on the internet.



I have purchased stuff from both.

A. I live in Dallas and took all of my classes at ScubaToys, it is a
really brick & mortor store, to me it is my LDS. Larry is very clear
that everything he sells has the manufacturers warranty. Since he is
large internet AND retail operation some of the "no internet sales"
companies have made allowances for ST.

B. Never been to New York, can't tell you anything about LeisurePro as
an LDS. I've heard rumors that alot of their stuff is "grey" and may
not have the mfg warranty, but does have an LP warranty. I've never
had to test that warranty out since I've never purchased life support
equipment from them, only masks, Uwatec digital compass, and some
wetsuits, and misc stuff. Buying from LP has always been a pleasant
experience.

C. I bought my Mares Surveyor Nitrox on eBay, no regrets. Larry's
price was too much locally, but he has become a lot more competitive
since then too. I would buy life support goodies that require regular
maintenance from an LDS and shop around for accessory items.

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>If you don't mind a computer that someone else likely peed on.
>
> Jeez. Where do you wear the damned thing? But I guess Sink The Stink
> would work on a computer too. Might leave you smelling a tad effete
> amongst a herd of manly boat divers though.

At least one rec.scuban has admitted to keeping his gauges in his butt
crack. Is that better?

It's not just the "new car" smell, it's the absence of other people's
smells.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:43:53 -0800, "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com>
wrote:

>"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:er1qm1tpolg003niug6jc8ng1ejol4c6a1@4ax.com.. .
>
>>>If you don't mind a computer that someone else likely peed on.
>>
>> Jeez. Where do you wear the damned thing? But I guess Sink The Stink
>> would work on a computer too. Might leave you smelling a tad effete
>> amongst a herd of manly boat divers though.
>
>At least one rec.scuban has admitted to keeping his gauges in his butt
>crack. Is that better?
>
>It's not just the "new car" smell, it's the absence of other people's
>smells.
>
I could understand protecting your secondary reg by hiding it there,
but who wants to grope yer spg or computer? It's not like a buddy
panics and says "I need to know yer air pressure, right friggin' now!"

About the smell ... I still don't want my computer smelling like
something that just escaped from a cheap brothel. As manly as cheap
brothels are (to some), I think I'd rather my computer smelled like a
beer fart.

JF

Let me apologize up front right now
because I know I'm bound to be wrong
about something some time.