Sorry, suds.

Another successful election for a nation that we've freed.

I know how painful for you this is, that others would strive to live in
the freedom you take for granted.

Amidst the turmoil of war, they're organizing their government far faster
than this country did.

Even the Sunnis are beginning to capitulate and cooperate.

Don't give up your desperate politically partisan hope of mission failure,
however, maybe Saddam will get off on a technicality.

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Iraq vote 'met global standards'

The results of the poll could take up to two weeks to be confirmed
International observers have praised the organisers of Iraq's parliamentary
election, which they said generally met international standards.
A spokesman for the International Mission for Iraqi Elections conceded that
there had been minor problems, but said the vote had generally gone well.

About 11m Iraqis were estimated to have voted, a turnout of about 70%, with
results due in two weeks or more.

President Bush is to make an address on the situation in Iraq on Sunday
night.

"We are now entering a critical period for our mission in Iraq, the
president will talk about what we have accomplished and where we're headed,"
said his spokesman, annoucing the rare address from the Oval Office, to be
made at 2100 on Sunday (0200GMT Monday).

'Difficult circumstances'

"The Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq is to be commended on the way
it has performed its role under the difficult circumstances prevailing in
Iraq," said Paul Dacey, spokesman for the international observers.

IRAQ ELECTION FACTS
275-seat National Assembly will have four-year term
18 provinces are taken as separate constituencies
230 seats allocated according to size of population
45 seats distributed to parties whose ethnic, religious or political support
is spread over more than one province
Some 15 million eligible to vote
One third of candidates in each party must be women


Election guide
Who's who
Iraq's staging of major elections in January, October and December would
have been a major challenge even for well-established democracies, Mr Dacey
said.

The country's electoral commission announced on Friday that 320,000 Iraqis
living abroad voted in the election.

Around 15 million Iraqis were eligible to vote for the country's first
full-term government since Saddam Hussein was ousted in 2003.

The vote will elect 275 members of a national parliament, who will in turn
appoint a president.

Sunni votes

Voting was extended in many parts as Sunni Arabs took part after boycotting
previous elections.

Election officials reported high turnouts even in Sunni insurgent
strongholds such as Falluja and Ramadi.

Election in quotes
The voting took place amid a massive security operation, with 150,000 Iraqi
troops and police deployed and borders and airports closed.

US President George W Bush described the vote as "historic", and appeared
delighted with the high turn out.

Sunni nationalist insurgent groups had urged people to vote to prevent the
election of a government dominated by Shias and Kurds.

However, the al-Qaeda in Iraq group denounced the election and threatened
attacks. Two civilians and a US marine were slightly injured in morning
attacks.

The new national assembly will replace the transitional government elected
in January. Some 6,655 candidates, 307 parties and 19 coalitions registered
for the ballot.

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
> Another successful election for a nation that we've freed.
>
> I know how painful for you this is, that others would strive to live in
> the freedom you take for granted.
>
> Amidst the turmoil of war, they're organizing their government far faster
> than this country did.
>
> Even the Sunnis are beginning to capitulate and cooperate.
>
> Don't give up your desperate politically partisan hope of mission failure,
> however, maybe Saddam will get off on a technicality.
>
> ==============================================
> Iraq vote 'met global standards'
>
> The results of the poll could take up to two weeks to be confirmed
> International observers have praised the organisers of Iraq's parliamentary
> election, which they said generally met international standards.
> A spokesman for the International Mission for Iraqi Elections conceded that
> there had been minor problems, but said the vote had generally gone well.
>
> About 11m Iraqis were estimated to have voted, a turnout of about 70%, with
> results due in two weeks or more.
>
> President Bush is to make an address on the situation in Iraq on Sunday
> night.
>
> "We are now entering a critical period for our mission in Iraq, the
> president will talk about what we have accomplished and where we're headed,"
> said his spokesman, annoucing the rare address from the Oval Office, to be
> made at 2100 on Sunday (0200GMT Monday).
>
> 'Difficult circumstances'
>
> "The Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq is to be commended on the way
> it has performed its role under the difficult circumstances prevailing in
> Iraq," said Paul Dacey, spokesman for the international observers.
>
> IRAQ ELECTION FACTS
> 275-seat National Assembly will have four-year term
> 18 provinces are taken as separate constituencies
> 230 seats allocated according to size of population
> 45 seats distributed to parties whose ethnic, religious or political support
> is spread over more than one province
> Some 15 million eligible to vote
> One third of candidates in each party must be women
>
>
> Election guide
> Who's who
> Iraq's staging of major elections in January, October and December would
> have been a major challenge even for well-established democracies, Mr Dacey
> said.
>
> The country's electoral commission announced on Friday that 320,000 Iraqis
> living abroad voted in the election.
>
> Around 15 million Iraqis were eligible to vote for the country's first
> full-term government since Saddam Hussein was ousted in 2003.
>
> The vote will elect 275 members of a national parliament, who will in turn
> appoint a president.
>
> Sunni votes
>
> Voting was extended in many parts as Sunni Arabs took part after boycotting
> previous elections.
>
> Election officials reported high turnouts even in Sunni insurgent
> strongholds such as Falluja and Ramadi.
>
> Election in quotes
> The voting took place amid a massive security operation, with 150,000 Iraqi
> troops and police deployed and borders and airports closed.
>
> US President George W Bush described the vote as "historic", and appeared
> delighted with the high turn out.
>
> Sunni nationalist insurgent groups had urged people to vote to prevent the
> election of a government dominated by Shias and Kurds.
>
> However, the al-Qaeda in Iraq group denounced the election and threatened
> attacks. Two civilians and a US marine were slightly injured in morning
> attacks.
>
> The new national assembly will replace the transitional government elected
> in January. Some 6,655 candidates, 307 parties and 19 coalitions registered
> for the ballot.


Does it mean that 307 parties fought for 275 seats? It's really big
democratic achievement.

Check this article
http://www.uslaboragainstwar.org/article.php?id=9750

There is no sign that the election for the 275-member Iraqi parliament
this Thursday will end the fighting. The Sunni Arabs, the core of the
insurrection, will vote for the first time, but there is no talk of a
ceasefire. A leaflet issued by one resistance group in Baghdad
yesterday encouraged its followers to vote but warned: "The fighting
will continue with the infidels and their followers."



Some Iraqi leaders had an acute perception of the American dilemma in
Iraq. "Let them try to run the country without us and they will see
what trouble they will be in," said a Kurdish leader in the summer of
2003. "Then they will come running to us for our help."


Iraqis expected much from the fall of Saddam. They had endured 23 years
of war and sanctions. The Iraqi armed forcessimply packed up and went
home. Nobody wanted to die for the old regime. Instead they hoped to
enjoy the fruits of their oil wealth for the first time and begin to
live like Kuwaitis or Saudis.

Instead the US installed a colonial regime. Iraqis were marginalised
and their opinions ignored. Iraqi professionals with PhDs and fluent in
several languages found themselves being ordered about by young
Americans whose only qualification was links to the Republican Party.
The army and security services were dissolved. The five million-strong
Sunni community was enraged. The first attacks on US patrols and
vehicles began. Whenever I visited the site of an ambush I saw young
Iraqi men dancing in jubilation around the blazing vehicles.

<janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Does it mean that 307 parties fought for 275 seats? It's really big
> democratic achievement.

Like -you- would be anyone to judge.

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
> <janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1134837570.955075.32710@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Does it mean that 307 parties fought for 275 seats? It's really big
> > democratic achievement.
>
> Like -you- would be anyone to judge.

Are you afraid of me?
No comments on my cite? It doesn't fit your picture of Iraq?

----- Original Message -----
From: <janusz_w@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Sorry, suds.


>
> Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
> > <janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1134837570.955075.32710@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > > Does it mean that 307 parties fought for 275 seats? It's really big
> > > democratic achievement.
> >
> > Like -you- would be anyone to judge.
>
> Are you afraid of me?

Why would I be?

> No comments on my cite? It doesn't fit your picture of Iraq?

I'm not interested in your opinion of Iraq.

We're making decisions there that a third rate, third world country like
yours couldn't and wouldn't.

You're having a hard enough time just feeding yourselves.

Douglas W. Popeye Frederick wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <janusz_w@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.scuba
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Sorry, suds.
>
>
> >
> > Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
> > > <janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1134837570.955075.32710@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > >
> > > > Does it mean that 307 parties fought for 275 seats? It's really big
> > > > democratic achievement.
> > >
> > > Like -you- would be anyone to judge.
> >
> > Are you afraid of me?
>
> Why would I be?

I don't know. But your behavior shows symptoms of fear.
>
> > No comments on my cite? It doesn't fit your picture of Iraq?
>
> I'm not interested in your opinion of Iraq.
>
> We're making decisions there that a third rate, third world country like
> yours couldn't and wouldn't.


You? In your trailer? I can imagine big banner "Spike and Chester
saving the World"


Have you ever checked what was the concept of "numbered" worlds?

>
> You're having a hard enough time just feeding yourselves.

Really?
http://www.organicconsumers.org/corp/hunger.cfm

Hunger in American households has risen dramatically over the last five
years, according to an analysis of US Department of Agriculture (USDA)
data released today. The analysis, completed by the Center on Hunger
and Poverty at Brandeis University, shows that more than 7 million
people have joined the ranks of the hungry since 1999.

The USDA report, Household Food Security in the United States, 2004,
says that 38.2 million Americans live in households that suffer
directly from hunger and food insecurity, including nearly 14 million
children. That figure is up from 31 million Americans in 1999.

janusz_w@hotmail.com wrote:

> Douglas W. Popeye Frederick wrote:
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <janusz_w@hotmail.com>
>>Newsgroups: rec.scuba
>>Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:59 PM
>>Subject: Re: Sorry, suds.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
>>>
>>>><janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1134837570.955075.32710@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does it mean that 307 parties fought for 275 seats? It's really big
>>>>>democratic achievement.
>>>>
>>>> Like -you- would be anyone to judge.
>>>
>>>Are you afraid of me?
>>
>> Why would I be?
>
>
> I don't know. But your behavior shows symptoms of fear.
>
>>>No comments on my cite? It doesn't fit your picture of Iraq?
>>
>> I'm not interested in your opinion of Iraq.
>>
>> We're making decisions there that a third rate, third world country like
>>yours couldn't and wouldn't.
>
>
>
> You? In your trailer? I can imagine big banner "Spike and Chester
> saving the World"
>
>
> Have you ever checked what was the concept of "numbered" worlds?
>
>
>> You're having a hard enough time just feeding yourselves.
>
>
> Really?
> http://www.organicconsumers.org/corp/hunger.cfm
>
> Hunger in American households has risen dramatically over the last five
> years, according to an analysis of US Department of Agriculture (USDA)
> data released today. The analysis, completed by the Center on Hunger
> and Poverty at Brandeis University, shows that more than 7 million
> people have joined the ranks of the hungry since 1999.
>
> The USDA report, Household Food Security in the United States, 2004,
> says that 38.2 million Americans live in households that suffer
> directly from hunger and food insecurity, including nearly 14 million
> children. That figure is up from 31 million Americans in 1999.
>
How we define hunger and how most other countries define hunger are very
different. It's what comes from allowing liberals to make the definition.

--
“The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their
neutrality in times of moral crisis.”

<janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Douglas W. Popeye Frederick wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <janusz_w@hotmail.com>
> > Newsgroups: rec.scuba
> > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: Sorry, suds.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
> > > > <janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1134837570.955075.32710@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > > >
> > > > > Does it mean that 307 parties fought for 275 seats? It's really
big
> > > > > democratic achievement.
> > > >
> > > > Like -you- would be anyone to judge.
> > >
> > > Are you afraid of me?
> >
> > Why would I be?
>
> I don't know. But your behavior shows symptoms of fear.

Not on this planet.

Your leg humping buddy knows me personally.

Ask him how a fraid of -anything- I am.

You're not even on the horizon.

> > > No comments on my cite? It doesn't fit your picture of Iraq?
> >
> > I'm not interested in your opinion of Iraq.
> >
> > We're making decisions there that a third rate, third world country
like
> > yours couldn't and wouldn't.
>
> You? In your trailer? I can imagine big banner "Spike and Chester
> saving the World"

You've lived most of your life under the domination of others.

Someone needed to save you.

> Have you ever checked what was the concept of "numbered" worlds?
>
> >
> > You're having a hard enough time just feeding yourselves.
>
> Really?

Really.

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>
> <janusz_w@hotmail.com> tried to suck Popeye's dick in message
> news:1134837570.955075.32710@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...

> Like -you- would be anyone to judge.

Man, does this clown have a crush on you or what?

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>
> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
> message news:11q8idlj72ljl9d@news.supernews.com...
> >
> > <janusz_w@hotmail.com> tried to suck Popeye's dick in message
> > news:1134837570.955075.32710@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Like -you- would be anyone to judge.
>
> Man, does this clown have a crush on you or what?

He sure likes my lower leg, that's for sure.