Dear John:

Here's some dignity for your modicum:

>Subject: The Last Challenge (In Memory of Icediver)
>From: "ben bradlee" kjohnson@splitrocktel.net
>Date: 12/13/02 1:43 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <uvkallpcj31n75@corp.supernews.com>
>
>With the sudden, unexpected, and unexplained

I'd hardly call it unexplained. That the guy was a schizophrenic
psychopath was routinely evidenced.

> demise of Icediver, the
>Popeye-Icediver dive-challenge is now history. While nonsense reverberates
>on rec.scuba, it seems appropriate, even fitting, that a new and greater
>challenge be offered.
>
>As long as I can remember there has been a steady posting of insults,
>derogatory remarks, innuendo, personal attacks, and professional
>criticism>of Icediver. How long this has gone on is anyone's guess, but I
>suspect>that Icediver has been belittled, harassed, criticized and
>otherwise>degraded thousands of times in his existence on rec.scuba.
>(After, as well.)

Certainly not nearly as much as he deserved, but we couldn't let him
monopolize the newsgroup, could we?

And this seems to assert that I might be finished, which I can assure you
is not the case, especially as long as you aren't.

>The Challenge: All Icediver

Can you not use his name now that he's (allegedly) dead?

Are you still subserviant to his grand title?

> bashers are entered in this challenge. The
>object is to determine who amongst you posted the greatest number of
>insults. The time starts with the first insult (you will need to document
>that date) and ends with this post. Each person is responsible to count
>his
>or her own insults. Be liberal with yourself. Insults to him, his family,
>friends, education, abilities, or judgment surely count if they are made to
>discredit him or something he said. Remarks on sheep,

I claim victory.

>Plan to meet at the appointed time to share your final tally.

You gonna be there, Kennybenny? Gonna take the Doc's bet?

>Each insult counts only as one. It would be far too difficult to determine
>a point scale for the most cutting, most hurtful, most disgusting, or
>similar category.

I'd take it on volume, anyway.

>At the ceremony everyone will not be of like mind as to the fate of
>Icediver.

No one really cares.

Even Harry Krause's transparent request for information was blatantly
worded in such a fashion as to cause comment and discord, instead of being a
heartfelt inquiry.

Same as your "memorial" post.

You're a scumbag.

> This is to be expected given the great diversity of opinion in
>rec.scuba. If you score the highest count, you can choose whether your
>posts: 1. Encouraged a suicide, 2. Degraded enough to silence, or, 3.
>Bolstered a natural passing. 4. Did society a meritorious service.
>(Each insult could represent one strike on a
>nail securing his coffin cover. Say 10 strikes per nail. Then divide your
>total to determine the number of coffin nails to your credit. Some fun,
>eh?)

(Gleefully picturing myself with a magazine fed nailgun (and hot glue,
duct tape, clamps, banding material, shrinkwrap), a tool belt, and a smile)

I'd wager I've made two remarks to anybody else's one.

>Maybe it will be clearer once the numbers are known. A hundred insults? A
>thousand insults?

At the very least.

> Chipping at the ego, weighing on the soul, each lowering
>the stature of man, every man.

I'd have used a triphammer, but a keyboard was all I had.

I had finally arranged a meeting that would cost him a grand to weasel out
of, but he, um... declined to attend.

Hopefully, in the spirit of honoring the departed, you'll take his place

As soon as 1 Feb comes and goes, I may concede Elmer is all done, and I'll
move on to the next asshole.

I have a doozey planned for him.

>I did not know Icediver. In retrospect, I should have. In my quest to be

A coward?

>anonymous I lost the ability to know; as in make friends. I did talk to
>Icediver one sunny and peaceful day. He acted professional, talked like he
>posted, while he helping others to accomplish their goals.

So, then, he was spiteful, hateful, boastful and arrogant, threatening,
wished injury and death on fellow divers, attacked unsuspecting
non-combatants with extensive vitriol, must have been an interesting day.

> I, like you,
>read many of his posts but failed to respond with the hateful retorts
>necessary to be a contestant in this challenge.

You were too busy grabbing your ankles for him, because no one else would
have you. Witness your social desperation, listing the birth of your
children in the newsletter of his diveclub, 400 miles from your home.

But don't worry, Kennybenny, you've been hateful enough with many others
here. Planning on a boat ride soon?

> But here on rec.scuba we're
>free to be ourselves, right? That's why I thought you would like this
>challenge. Now step up to your posts and take a critical review. Is Doug
>the man to beat?

No one comes close.

> (Wouldn't it be ironic if Doug wins this contest when
>there was so little hope of him winning the original challenge?)

<editor's note: I has three times Black's bottom time at the point of his
demise, and had been baiting him with false reports>

-Eagerly- awaiting your answer to yet. another. wager...

But we all already know the answer, don't we?

> Your celebration will be a final tribute to Icediver and his original
> challenge.
>May the last challenge begin!

People here care about you even less than they cared about him. And since
you're not (allegedly) dead, they won't say anything nice about you to be
politically correct.

I also find it odd that after being gone a month, you show up to stir the
pot just as things die down about MJDirtbag, and that Harry Krause shows up
almost simultaneously...

Hmmmmm.

Here's Black acting professional (a doctor of medicine), talking as he
posted, helping people to accomplish their goals:


From: mjblackmd@my-deja.com (mjblackmd@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Update (longish)
Date: 2000/04/24


Have been gone for a week, diving. Did little Richie make a boo-boo.
So sorry (where's my violin). You have my deepest regrets (yeah,
regretting that you don't get your ass kicked up your esophagus).
Fear not little Richie, you may learn that threats in the real world
have more punch than threats in cyberspace. Doesn't surprise me to
see you crying to your support group of losers here on rec.scuba.
Poetic justice. MJB


From: mjblackmd@my-deja.com (mjblackmd@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: George Horn, The Welching Loser
Date: 2000-09-18 06:10:06 PST


YOU LAZY LYING POS, find the initial post yourself asshole. You are
not worth my time, and YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY BIG TIME. I looked at
your lousy website between 4 and 8 weeks ago. YOU FIND THE VISIT AND
YOU APOLOGIZE FOR CALLING ME A LIAR. You, Scott, Popeye, and a host
of others here make rec.scuba the waste of time it is, filled with
asshole lying jerks. May your software fail as well as you do, what
a total childish jerk you are. MJB


From: mjblackmd@my-deja.com (mjblackmd@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: George Horn, The Welching Loser
Date: 2000-09-15 08:00:09 PST


You are an ASSHOLE EXTRAORDINAIRE, asshole, and I looked at your
website long enough ago to know that YOU SUCK and IT SUCKS, no matter
how important you think you are. You didn't even list my first
visit probably a month or two ago, YOU ACCUSING JERK. Better do
your homework a little better, ASSHOLE!!!

Just looked at a GOOD SOURCE of reef fish identification, you know
the book, by Paul Humann, and learned that only two species of
Hippocampus are found in the Caribbean, H. reidi and H. erectus,
with the latter ranging as far north as Nova Scotia. Now given
that there are about 25 species of seahorses with most being found
in tropical areas, it is a reasonable question to ask if the New
York City species is tropical or temperate.

You are such a flaming loser, asshole. May your product sell as
well as it deserves, judging by the kind of asshole you appear to be.
Have a nice rant now, you belong here with George and his pals.

MJB


From: mjblackmd@my-deja.com (mjblackmd@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Above 30 ft?
Date: 2000/07/10


Dipshit, YOU ARE OUTA YOUR LEAGUE. DCI includes DCS and AGE,
and volume changes are greatest above 30 ft. GOD DAMN, your only
purpose here is to be a FLAMING HEMORRHOID. The poster wants to
understand a concept, why DCS or AGE are most likely above 30 ft.
Go harass nydivecon or cyberdiver or el stroko now. MJB



It's hard to believe anyone would think poorly of this kind, gentle,
departed soul.

mjblackmd@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Still waiting...Randy, the bullshit artist, Milak...
> You've been called out, but keep hiding. Silence=Guilty. MJB

Sorry, not much of a bullshit artist, but I'm not bad at drawing
ophthalmologists from Wisconsin ... how's this?

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Search Result 85
From: mjblackmd@my-deja.com (mjblackmd@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: MHK is stupid
View: Complete Thread (57 articles)
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Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Date: 2000/03/03


Scott, You are a lying, dangerous, hypocritical, ranting piece
of shit, suffering from foot-in-mouth disease. To prove my point,
look at my 2/29/00 post to you on the MJB thread. I don't have
time to repeat it here, but I suppose if I were some low-life
dive-shop boy like you, I could. I should have titled this thread
MHK AND Scott are stupid. Go kill yourselves with a deep deco
dive, and the world will be a better place. MJB


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From: Popeye (buzcutt454@aol.com)
Subject: Re: MJB,SQIRMING DIVE BUFOON
View: Complete Thread (17 articles)
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Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Date: 2000-10-25 09:01:20 PST


>What's amazing is how you can't get over it, in your case a lost bet.>In
Popeye's case, exposed lies.

Here's some exposure for ya, laughing boy.

>>http://www.egroups.com/group/Techdivers-CA

"Some requests for membership will require a brief bio of the potential
member's recent technical diving history and training level/org. In this
case,
it helps to know someone who's already a member. Persons who go by the
monikers
of Michael J. Black MD, John P. Delaney or Gene Greenberg are not allowed
membership to the list for the obvious reasons."

Michael J. Black MD, not allowed membership to the list for the obvious
reasons.
Michael J. Black MD, not allowed membership to the list for the obvious
reasons.
Michael J. Black MD, not allowed membership to the list for the obvious
reasons.
Michael J. Black MD, not allowed membership to the list for the obvious
reasons.
Michael J. Black MD, not allowed membership to the list for the obvious
reasons.
Michael J. Black MD, not allowed membership to the list for the obvious
reasons.


Whoo Hoo! What. An. Ass. Hole...

Banned as useless, by an entire state!

Bleedin Spectacular!

I think Dan should put that in The best of R.S

Back in the dumpster, spanky.

YLAM

Message 69 in thread
From: mjblackmd@my-deja.com (mjblackmd@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Maffatone dies using custom equipment.


View this article only
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Date: 2000-08-14 11:30:50 PST


Fact: You are WRONG. Fact: McGuire WAS diving DIR when he died,
and DIR has subsequently changed its tank marking procedures.
Fact: WKPP divers ARE getting bent. Fact: You need to open
your eyes, dickweed, and stop spewing bullshit, because Fact:
DIR represents loudmouthed, misinformed jerks like you, and Denial
Is Rampant(DIR). MJB

Search Result 239
From: mjblackmd@my-deja.com (mjblackmd@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Doria Deaths
View: Complete Thread (9 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Date: 2000/06/23


Thanks Tony, I'll have a look at Esquire.

And while I'm here, I should say to Scott Koplin, who said on
November 4, 1997, "Hello all, My name is Scott Koplin. I have 15
logged dives, and about 30 unlogged...," has anyone ever smashed
your face, you ex-Marine pussy? I'm looking forward to meeting
you someday (tip: stay in very good physical condition, but then
you should anyway if you are DIR).

MJB

Message 16 in thread
From: mjblackmd@my-deja.com (mjblackmd@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: MJB critiques his DIR dive


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Date: 2000/06/14



Asshole, S2. MHK prepped the freakin rig, HIS rig. HE said the
screws were loose. I did not personally check the screws. Get
the FUCK OUTA HERE, Gault. Here we go again, you and the DIR
loudmouths jumping to stupid, dipshit conclusions. And you know
what Gault, I still like Toyotas instead of Chevys (even though
I own a Corvette). You might as well tell me not to like Toyotas,
if you think my opinion will change about DIR. S2 U POS. MJB

Hwæt! Popeye, men ne cunnon secgan to soðe:

> Certainly not nearly as much as he deserved, but we couldn't
> let him monopolize the newsgroup, could we?

That is your problem in a nutshell, Douggy. You think that *you*
should monopolize the newsgroup and you simply can't handle it when
someone else challenges you.

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HostlBuddha wrote:
> That is your problem in a nutshell, Douggy. You think that *you*
> should monopolize the newsgroup and you simply can't handle it when
> someone else challenges you.

Oh my, you don't know the half of it.

HostlBuddha wrote:
> Hwæt! dazed and confuzzed, men ne cunnon secgan to soðe:
>
>> Name calling and all that is for little boys. Be a man and
>> show up.
>
> Doug's already demonstrated that he's just a little boy. He had a
> chance last summer to be a man and show up.

non responsive.

answer the question.

>

Dennis (Icarus) wrote:

> "dazed and confuzzed" <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote in message
> news:DoWdnTKtMrtK3GjenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Dennis (Icarus) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"HostlBuddha" <nisarel@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:Xns976CD9120CFD7nisarelpostmastercou@66.15 0.105.47...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hwæt! Lee Bell, men ne cunnon secgan to soðe:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'll bring my new .45
>>>>
>>>>You plan on smuggling it through Customs?
>>>
>>>
>>>Uhmm......D&C's hotel is in the US.
>>
>>Indiana, to be precise. 45 miles from Chicago. Nice and centrally
>>located for all...
>>
>>Place for Doug to park his truck...
>>
>>Within 75 minutes of Midway airport should Carl want to fly commercial.
>>Closer small airport should Grumman wish to attend....
>>
>>I 65 and state rd 2 in Indiana, Exit 240.
>
>
> So for me, it'd be get to 65, drive North.

Yep. I think about 6 hours from Popeye's place.
>
> I'll let you know when I head that way.

Do that.
>
> <snip>
> So Carl.....whats your response?

Gon't hold your breath.
>
> Dennis
>
>


--



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the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3

"dazed and confuzzed" <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote in message
news:O9idneMCGbmz02jeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> Dennis (Icarus) wrote:
>
> > "dazed and confuzzed" <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote in message
> > news:DoWdnTKtMrtK3GjenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >>Dennis (Icarus) wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"HostlBuddha" <nisarel@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>news:Xns976CD9120CFD7nisarelpostmastercou@66.15 0.105.47...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hwæt! Lee Bell, men ne cunnon secgan to soðe:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I'll bring my new .45
> >>>>
> >>>>You plan on smuggling it through Customs?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Uhmm......D&C's hotel is in the US.
> >>
> >>Indiana, to be precise. 45 miles from Chicago. Nice and centrally
> >>located for all...
> >>
> >>Place for Doug to park his truck...
> >>
> >>Within 75 minutes of Midway airport should Carl want to fly commercial.
> >>Closer small airport should Grumman wish to attend....
> >>
> >>I 65 and state rd 2 in Indiana, Exit 240.
> >
> >
> > So for me, it'd be get to 65, drive North.
>
> Yep. I think about 6 hours from Popeye's place.
> >
> > I'll let you know when I head that way.
>
> Do that.
> >
> > <snip>
> > So Carl.....whats your response?
>
> Gon't hold your breath.

I'm an experienced scuba diver - I know better

Dennis
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> It is said that drugs lead nowhere. This is probably true, but they do
> take you on the scenic route….
>
>
__________________________________________________ __________________________
___
> "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
> the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs
22:3
>
>

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
news:11vao625v70da1b@corp.supernews.com...
> "dazed and confuzzed" <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote in message
> >>
> > so I take it you are declining my offer of neutral ground?
> >
> > (and free drinks...)
>
> If I show up as his second, do I still get the free drinks?

If I show up as your bodyguard, do I get free drinks?

(hey, I'm home now and waiting by the phone)

"chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
news:nodJf.27350$sa3.1185@pd7tw1no...
>
> "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
> news:11vao625v70da1b@corp.supernews.com...
>> "dazed and confuzzed" <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote in message
>> >>
>> > so I take it you are declining my offer of neutral ground?
>> >
>> > (and free drinks...)
>>
>> If I show up as his second, do I still get the free drinks?
>
> If I show up as your bodyguard, do I get free drinks?
>
> (hey, I'm home now and waiting by the phone)

Shit, that means I'll have to step outside for a nightcap. You're a
terrible influence. I still have one more payroll to run that I gotta drop
off at 8 a.m. But it's my birthday [soon]. Talk to you in a few.

"bob crownfield" <crownfield@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:L1cJf.2718$qI.399@trndny03...
> HostlBuddha wrote:
>> Hwæt! dazed and confuzzed, men ne cunnon secgan to soðe:
>>
>>> Name calling and all that is for little boys. Be a man and
>>> show up.
>>
>> Doug's already demonstrated that he's just a little boy. He had a chance
>> last summer to be a man and show up.
>
> non responsive.
>
> answer the question.

"Whattsa matta. Peanut? Didn't any of yer buds on yer list speak up for
ya." - Sheryl Larson/Chilly




>
>>

"chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
news:nodJf.27350$sa3.1185@pd7tw1no...
>
> "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
> news:11vao625v70da1b@corp.supernews.com...
>> "dazed and confuzzed" <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote in message
>> >>
>> > so I take it you are declining my offer of neutral ground?
>> >
>> > (and free drinks...)
>>
>> If I show up as his second, do I still get the free drinks?
>
> If I show up as your bodyguard, do I get free drinks?
>
> (hey, I'm home now and waiting by the phone)


"Whattsa matta. Peanut? Didn't any of yer buds on yer list speak up for
ya." - Sheryl Larson/Chilly


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