Shooting at Denny's

"Joe English" <joeenglish2@wisperhome.com> wrote in message
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> Lee Bell wrote:

>> Probably would not have made a difference this time. He killed two,
>> wounded 2 and then killed himself. Chances are, the time between the
>> start and the finish wasn't long enough for the average citizen recognize
>> and asses the risk, let alone respond to it.
>>
>> Lee
> the right to carry may have prevented the whole thing

How so, Joe? Lee just said that there probably wasn't enough time for
someone carrying to do anything about it, and the shooter walked in with the
intent to die.

Obviously better control would have prevented the whole thing.

Greg Mossman wrote:

> "Joe English" <joeenglish2@wisperhome.com> wrote in message
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>
>>Lee Bell wrote:
>
>
>>>Probably would not have made a difference this time. He killed two,
>>>wounded 2 and then killed himself. Chances are, the time between the
>>>start and the finish wasn't long enough for the average citizen recognize
>>>and asses the risk, let alone respond to it.
>>>
>>>Lee
>>
>>the right to carry may have prevented the whole thing
>
>
> How so, Joe? Lee just said that there probably wasn't enough time for
> someone carrying to do anything about it, and the shooter walked in with the
> intent to die.
>
> Obviously better control would have prevented the whole thing.
>
>
the threat that someone else might be carrying - you don't need any time
to do anything. Better control rarely stops anything which has been
shown ad nauseum

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Joe English" <joeenglish2@wisperhome.com> wrote in message
> news:44196424$0$52023$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster. com...
>> Lee Bell wrote:
>
>>> Probably would not have made a difference this time. He killed two,
>>> wounded 2 and then killed himself. Chances are, the time between the
>>> start and the finish wasn't long enough for the average citizen recognize
>>> and asses the risk, let alone respond to it.
>>>
>>> Lee
>> the right to carry may have prevented the whole thing
>
> How so, Joe? Lee just said that there probably wasn't enough time for
> someone carrying to do anything about it, and the shooter walked in with the
> intent to die.
>
> Obviously better control would have prevented the whole thing.

like gun control in LA has eliminated gang gun crimes.... right.


>
>

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:50:08 -0500, "Popeye"
<Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:


>>>Perhaps if there'd been more police?
>>
>> Fuggedaboutit. All they needed was one armed super-scuban.
>
> Typically incorrect.
>
> Greg's the only one armed guy here, and he ain't tooled up.

I thought Curtis gave him a reprieve.

JF

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:27:25 -0600, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
> <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> >> "Joe English" <joeenglish2@wisperhome.com> wrote in message
> >> news:44196424$0$52023$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster. com...
> >> > Lee Bell wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Probably would not have made a difference this time. He killed two,
> >> >> wounded 2 and then killed himself. Chances are, the time between
the
> >> >> start and the finish wasn't long enough for the average citizen
> >recognize
> >> >> and asses the risk, let alone respond to it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lee
> >> > the right to carry may have prevented the whole thing
> >>
> >> How so, Joe? Lee just said that there probably wasn't enough time for
> >> someone carrying to do anything about it, and the shooter walked in
with
> >the
> >> intent to die.
> >
> >No, that would be "the average citizen".
> >There may've bene above agerage folks who could've stopped it.
> >
> >>
> >> Obviously better control would have prevented the whole thing.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Perhaps if there'd been more police?
>
> Fuggedaboutit. All they needed was one armed super-scuban.

Well, Popeye wasn't in the area, but...

5 bucks on team 3.

>
> JF
>
>

Dennis

JOF wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:37:08 -0600, Joe English
> <joeenglish2@wisperhome.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Greg Mossman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Joe English" <joeenglish2@wisperhome.com> wrote in message
>>>news:44196424$0$52023$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonst er.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lee Bell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Probably would not have made a difference this time. He killed two,
>>>>>wounded 2 and then killed himself. Chances are, the time between the
>>>>>start and the finish wasn't long enough for the average citizen recognize
>>>>>and asses the risk, let alone respond to it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lee
>>>>
>>>>the right to carry may have prevented the whole thing
>>>
>>>
>>>How so, Joe? Lee just said that there probably wasn't enough time for
>>>someone carrying to do anything about it, and the shooter walked in with the
>>>intent to die.
>>>
>>>Obviously better control would have prevented the whole thing.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>the threat that someone else might be carrying - you don't need any time
>>to do anything. Better control rarely stops anything which has been
>>shown ad nauseum
>
>
> So you're saying carrying is a lower order of control (not to say less
> effective)?
>
> JF
>
JOF - Have no idea waht you are ranting - cygc

"Joe English" <joeenglish2@wisperhome.com> wrote in message
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> JOF wrote:

>> So you're saying carrying is a lower order of control (not to say less
>> effective)?
>>
>> JF
>>
> JOF - Have no idea waht you are ranting - cygc

It's okay.

Neither does he.

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:50:08 -0500, "Popeye"
> <Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
>
>
> >>>Perhaps if there'd been more police?
> >>
> >> Fuggedaboutit. All they needed was one armed super-scuban.
> >
> > Typically incorrect.
> >
> > Greg's the only one armed guy here, and he ain't tooled up.
>
> I thought Curtis gave him a reprieve.

It was his bodyguard that saved him.

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:49:11 GMT, "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada>
wrote:

>
>"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bc8k12len2abvofnhpdobnub3kuf9ftcht@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:50:08 -0500, "Popeye"
>> <Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >>>Perhaps if there'd been more police?
>> >>
>> >> Fuggedaboutit. All they needed was one armed super-scuban.
>> >
>> > Typically incorrect.
>> >
>> > Greg's the only one armed guy here, and he ain't tooled up.
>>
>> I thought Curtis gave him a reprieve.
>
>It was his bodyguard that saved him.

And here I had just assumed he'd had his wiley lawyery way with
Curtis.

JF

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> The average citizen probably would have shot and killed a bystander.

Well, I'm tempted to say that since it did happen in SoCal, so they probably
weren't *innocent* bystanders, but looking at the demographics, I see that
San Luis Obispo County voted correctly in the 2004 election...