Difference between "Master Diver" & "Dive Master"

Lee Bell wrote:
>
> I would not have called Bob a "clueless diver," but this makes me wonder
> since he's often expressed, and demonstrated his preference for following a
> guide rather than discovering things on his own.

Guided? Geeze, I really now have to wonder about Bob's lack of diving
skills. The only real thing I've heard about are his deep bounce
claims, yet I've buddied up with a double-amputee to go out on a deep
bounce dive that he wanted to do, so I know very much that the touting
about how deep one has dived literally doesn't take much swimming
ability at all.

....and FWIW, as a buddy, I can definitely say that unlike Bob, Leo
never kicked off mine or anyone else's mask off, which by that metric
makes Leo a more skilled diver than Bob


> So, there you have it. Bob admits to being a clueless diver, gets the
> requirement for physics wrong, all while unsuccessfully trying to make
> himself look good and others look bad.

While responding to a 5-day old post, after just claiming this week
that a 3-day old post was "obsolete".


> Typical.

And predictable. He'll be back soon.


-hh

<thelamarines@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Master Scuba Certification is different depending if it is PADI
> (basically Rescue Diver Course plus any 5 specialties does it) or NAUI
> which is a very intense training consisting of rescue dives, deep
> dives, search and recovery and a written test that will make the Bar
> Exam look like a joke.

I'm curious what bar exam you took that was a joke compared to the NAUI MD
written test. I've taken two and, while I did find one was easier than the
other, I don't see how you can compare a three day post-doctoral exam with
any scuba test unless it's the Mike Grey version.

BTW, your description of the NAUI Master course sounds close to L.A.
County's Advanced course. Now that's a class I'd love to take, if only I
had the time . . .

http://www.lascuba.com/adp.html

Over 100 Hours of Training

Lectures:

Oceanography
Navigation
Rescue
Physics
Physiology
Physical conditioning
Diving equipment
Medical aspects of diving
Marine life identification
Dive planning
Dive tables and computers
Decompression theory
Altitude/Freshwater diving
Search and recovery
Technical diving

Minimum of 14 Dives:
Night, Deep, Navigation Dives
Sandy and Rocky Beaches
Altitude/Freshwater
Boat dive
Search and light salvage
Weekend camp-out
Casino Point, Catalina Island

> I can spot a PADI diver 9 times out of 10 when I go diving. PADI
> trains tons of divers, NAUI trains fewer, but in my opinion, does it
> better.
I have seen crappy divers and proffesionals from all the traning agencys.
Naui, SSI and CMAS included.

Thus spake "Lars Damkjær" <ld@dmail.dk> :

>> I can spot a PADI diver 9 times out of 10 when I go diving. PADI
>> trains tons of divers, NAUI trains fewer, but in my opinion, does it
>> better.
>I have seen crappy divers and proffesionals from all the traning agencys.
>Naui, SSI and CMAS included.
>
I have a friend who is both a PADI and NAUI instructor. Which he
teaches depends on which shop he's teaching out of. Is he crap when
he teaches PADI and golden when he teaches NAUI?
--
dillon

I didn't climb to the top of the
food chain to become a vegetarian.

Greg Mossman wrote:
<snip>
>
> I'm curious what bar exam you took that was a joke compared to the NAUI MD
> written test. I've taken two and, while I did find one was easier than the
> other, I don't see how you can compare a three day post-doctoral exam with
> any scuba test unless it's the Mike Grey version.
>
<snip>

Perhaps it was being confused with the bar *tenders* exam...

GD&R,

JRE

"-hh" wrote

> Guided? Geeze, I really now have to wonder about Bob's lack of diving
> skills. The only real thing I've heard about are his deep bounce
> claims

Which are definitely not a sign of skill.

Curtis

That day has come and gone!

"Dan Bracuk" <NOTbracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in message
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> "thelamarines@aol.com" <thelamarines@aol.com> pounded away at his
> keyboard resulting in:
> :I can spot a PADI diver 9 times out of 10 when I go diving.
>
> So can I.
>
> Since PADI trains about 90% of all divers, if you say every diver you
> see is PADI, you will be right 9 times out of 10.
>
> Dan Bracuk
> If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
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> Nether - he's not GUE.
GUE ? If you think you need to be that carefull you shouldent dive at all.

>> WTF is a plastic buggel?


Nothing but a cheap imitation of a real buggel.

Thus spake "dweeb" <brianfwagner@yahoo.com> :

>
>Dillon Pyron wrote:
>> I have a friend who is both a PADI and NAUI instructor. Which he
>> teaches depends on which shop he's teaching out of. Is he crap when
>> he teaches PADI and golden when he teaches NAUI?
>
>If he's a good NAUI instructor, there are things he requires teaching
>NAUI that PADI will not allow him to require. The rules you're
>operating under can change you from great to lousy. Think of it this
>way - our local business community has a corporate athletic challenge -
>in softball they require that a the team playing offense provide the
>pitcher, i.e. you pitch to your own team. A great pitcher under real
>softball rules is a lousy one under these bizarre rules, and vice versa.

The question still stands, is he crap when he teaches PADI? Am I a
crap instructor because I'm PADI? I teach to the book, but anywhere
there's lee way, I take it. Students don't pick the AOW dives, for
instance. And all my OW students go to 60 on dive 3 before we do the
skills review.

A good instructor is good regardless of agency. That's the one thing
everybody preaches here.
--
dillon

I didn't climb to the top of the
food chain to become a vegetarian.