Difference between "Master Diver" & "Dive Master"

Was wondering what the differences are between the "Master Diver" &
"Dive Master" designations?

Any comments will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sy

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On Sat, 06 May 2006 22:33:55 -0400, <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Was wondering what the differences are between the "Master Diver" &
>"Dive Master" designations?
>
>Any comments will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sy
>
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Neither have the skill to become the Master baiter

"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:070520060726087230%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com ...

> In article <vhoq52ldt6vpqev51b0ghm3g2a5b27gj25@4ax.com>, Grumman-581
> <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote:

> ? Any recreational certificaiton agencies that issue a cert called
> ? "Master Diver" is just a poser type cert...

> You mean like this?
>
> http://www.padi.com/padi/en/kd/msd.aspx

As contrasted by this;

http://www.supsalv.org/aigs/00C3Msg/mdvPrescreener.html

On Sun, 07 May 2006 07:26:08 -0700, Alan Street
<agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote:
> You mean like this?
>
> http://www.padi.com/padi/en/kd/msd.aspx

50 logged dives? Minimum age of 12? And then a couple of underwater
basketweaving courses? Hell, that's not even good enough to be a
poser... Kind of corrupting the term "Master Diver"... Damn, someone
should be ashamed to have (or even consider getting) that cert...

sytech@yahoo.com wrote:
> Was wondering what the differences are between the "Master Diver" &
> "Dive Master" designations?
>
> Any comments will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sy
>

Dive Master is the first "professional" level in recreational diving. A
dive master is supposed to be able to aid in instruction, lead groups
and teach a limited amount of diving (used to be you could "certify"
someone as a snorkel diver). SSI calls this level a Dive Control
Specialist. Either name means that they are just a little closer to
instructor than an open water diver.


Master Diver is merely a recognition of training and dives for those
that don't want to go on to the instructional route. It is a program
designed to keep divers taking additional courses to get that fancy card.

Now, that said ... if you take classes to better your knowledge and get
an improved understanding of diving, then either certification is great.
However, if you are like a LOT of divers today, and are only
interested in a string of patches and a pack of cards, then both certs
are just indications that you have more money to spend than your buddy.

Just my $.02
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I know a lot of 12 year old divers that I would trust much more that the
once a year "tourist" diver. I agree on the 50 dive thing. That is
one reason I like SSI better. Your card has your # of logged dives on
it. (10,50,100, 500, 1000 or something like that)

Fishing has a similar certification that carries about as much prestige
but they only give it out for how good you can put stuff on a hook. I
think they call it a "baiting master" or something like that.....




Grumman-581 wrote:
> On Sun, 07 May 2006 07:26:08 -0700, Alan Street
> <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>You mean like this?
>>
>>http://www.padi.com/padi/en/kd/msd.aspx
>
>
> 50 logged dives? Minimum age of 12? And then a couple of underwater
> basketweaving courses? Hell, that's not even good enough to be a
> poser... Kind of corrupting the term "Master Diver"... Damn, someone
> should be ashamed to have (or even consider getting) that cert...

In article

That's why I asked. I had read somewhere that PADI had a lot to do
with the loweing of the standards issue.

>Divemasters used to be respected but greed has lowered the standards
and
> many DM's simply bought the card.


















<ombligo-811F1D.05525807052006@news-server1.tampabay.rr.com>, Ron T
<ombligo@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> In article <060520062233552052%sytech@yahoo.com>, <sytech@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Was wondering what the differences are between the "Master Diver" &
> > "Dive Master" designations?
> >
> > Any comments will be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sy
>
>
>
> Joking aside..
>
> Master Diver is a recreational certification earned when a diver has
> Rescue plus at least five specialties (which can be any of the
> specialties including Fish ID or Manatee Snorkeler)
>
> Divemaster is the entry level professional certification. The diver who
> earns has rescue and first aid training and has gone through a course to
> show dive skills both in and out of the water (skills equal to what was
> demanded of OW divers in the late 70's). Divemasters pay PADI (or
> whoever) annual dues to carry the certification. The card means they are
> licensed to be sherpas for any Dive Instructor within 150'.
>
> Master Divers are c-card collectors.
>
> Divemasters used to be respected but greed has lowered the standards and
> many DM's simply bought the card.

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sytech@yahoo.com wrote:
> Was wondering what the differences are between the "Master Diver" &
> "Dive Master" designations?

It depends on which training agency's certifications you are talking
about.

A CMAS-ISA 3* Master Diver is a leadership qualification without the
annual affilliation fees usually associated with a Dive Master. You are
also not required to have medicals every year unless you are over 40,
and you do not have to be current in first aid and CPR (but you have to
be a rescue diver).

It is not a bunch of specialities either and in CMAS-ISA it is a
pre-requisite for enrolling on any other leadership qualification. It's
a tough course which has about two months of part-time theory, and most
people take 6 months to a year to complete the course.

You are required to do 50 dives on the course, which are made up of
deep dives (40 meters max), boat dives, fresh water dives, night dives,
low viz dives, navigation dives, simulated underwater working dives,
and search & recovery dives. There's also many dives which require you
to assist a dive leader and act as a dive leader.

HTH

rgds
monty

<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:060520062233552052%sytech@yahoo.com...
>
> Was wondering what the differences are between the "Master Diver" &
> "Dive Master" designations?
>
> Any comments will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sy

Master Scuba Diver:

Is a continuing education certification course for the divers who wish to
increase their understanding and enjoyment of diving. Some subject areas
are review and expansion of material from previous courses. Each subject is
a progression in study not a definitive study in the particular diving
activity.



The Dive Master is pretty much what the others say it is.



ZamaTim



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sytech@yahoo.com wrote:
> Was wondering what the differences are between the "Master Diver" &
> "Dive Master" designations?
>
> Any comments will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sy
>


Dive Master cert is good for serving coffee, and Master Diver is good
for borrowing stuff from because they've got so much extra kit lying around.

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