Dive computer all I need or do I need to continue filling out the form after every dive?

Mermaid Diver wrote:

>
> My question to you; Do I still need to complete my dive planning and
> filling out the critical form after every dive? After diving, I notice
> only the new divers learning or getting their certification are filling
> out their dive books. I am curious if learning my computer and
> understanding the concepts is sufficient. I hate writing or reading
> while on a dive boat because I am so susceptible to sea sickness or
> getting dizzi.

Don't forget that yer computer logs only x number of dives, then
starts to erase the oldest.

Many old time divers do keep a log, we just don't fill it out on
the boat, and most of us have our own set of data that we keep,
not the stuff that's in the pre-printed log forms.

Mermaid Diver wrote:
> This is my first post, so please forgive me if I am in the wrong area
> or offend anyone.

Not likely.

> My computer appears to keep a log of my dive. Furthermore, it alerts
> me if my bottom time is too long, ascent is too fast, or if I need a
> deco stop etc. It really is a handy tool.
>
> Regards and thank you for your time.

What Lee said - great suggestions!

*
i'm much more than a princess but you don't have a name for it yet here
on earth.

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote:

>"Ron Lee" <nospamronlee@pcisys.net> wrote in message
>news:449ac018.12808593@news.pcisys.net...
>
>> Have you ever dove at Monastery Beach?
>
>Monastery Beach is over 300 miles away from Southern California, sort of a
>long drive for a day of shore diving.

Day trip yes but I have flown to that area (actually Palo Alto) to
dive in that area. It could be a weekend trip.

Ron Lee

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:45:22 -0400, "Lee Bell"
<pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote in rec.scuba:

>Mermaid Diver wrote
>
>> This is my first post, so please forgive me if I am in the wrong area
>> or offend anyone.
>
>You're not in the wrong place and we're a lot more likely to offend you than
>you are to offend us. We tend to be rough bunch, s you'll soon realize.
>Stick around long enough to learn how you fit in and you're likely to find
>an awful lot of very good information here.

Unless you come up against the likes of me, right Lee

>
>PS: We sure do prefer at least a first name for people here. We're a
>friendly, if a bit rough, bunch and it's always nice to be able to put a
>name with an e-mail handle.
>
Oh, face it Lee, most of you are a bunch of blowhard candy asses. You
couldn't address my questions/points so you pretended to killfile me.
So, I know have carte blanche with all of your post and you won't be
able to follow up. Of course, you can still follow up to a reply to
my post but everyone knows that is a sign of a Complete Loser.

"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:QjImg.2029$Ju2.17@bignews1.bellsouth.net...

> Actually no. We've had this discussion before. If your computer didn't
> tell you it was a deco dive before it crapped out, then a nice slow ascent
> and safety stop will ensure it's not a deco dive when you reach the
> surface. If you don't have a missed deco obligation, then there's at least
> one repetitive dive group that you know you are at or below.

But you did have a missed deco obligation, according to the table.

"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:_UQmg.22287$gv2.16125@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..

> Which table? The wheel, if used to evaluate the multilevel dives you had
> done, would not. Tables not designed to work with multi level dives
> would. They'd be wrong. More importantly, you'd know they are wrong.

I know they're wrong already. I've done plenty of dives between 71-80' well
over the 25 minutes or so my NASDS tables allow without deco, for instance.
But just because I know they're wrong, doesn't mean I'm going to violate
them at whim, making up my own profiles as I go like a DIR zealot.

> If you're not bent, your repetitive dive group is the same as it would be
> if you had just completed required deco. Your next dive may have to be
> short, but you can do it on a table.

Maybe you can, the guy who's already been bent twice. Me, I'll sit out the
rest of the day and drink to safety.

Greg Mossman wrote

> I know they're wrong already. I've done plenty of dives between 71-80'
> well over the 25 minutes or so my NASDS tables allow without deco, for
> instance. But just because I know they're wrong, doesn't mean I'm going to
> violate them at whim, making up my own profiles as I go like a DIR zealot.

"At a whim" does not describe the situation and you would not be making up
your own profile.

>> If you're not bent, your repetitive dive group is the same as it would be
>> if you had just completed required deco. Your next dive may have to be
>> short, but you can do it on a table.

> Maybe you can, the guy who's already been bent twice. Me, I'll sit out
> the rest of the day and drink to safety.

Your choice. Reverting to the tables had nothing to do with my being bent.
When I took the undeserved hit, the one which left me with no noticeable
long term effects, I was within the no deco limits of my Monitor I computer,
but apparently, not by enough. The second time, the one that left me a
permanent reminder, was a direct result of the mate on a liveaboard filling
my tanks with air instead of the nitrox I contracted for on the second day
of a 6-7 dive a day trip. If he's done it on day one, I probably never
would have known.

I don't recommend reverting to tables either, but not because it can't be
done safely. The problem with reverting to tables is that the only
repetitive dive group you are sure fits you is the most extreme group the
table has and that tends to shorten the next dive and/or extend surface
intervals. Unless it's one of those "must do" dives, I'd wait the 24 hours
too.

Lee

Welcome aboard. Suggest U read your manual again, talk 2 folks who have
that computer and get real comfy with it--very important tool that you need
to get comfy with. If you can't get the hang of it, sell it and buy
another.
No need filling out your logbook on the boat--do it back at the room/home.
Download capabilities for your computer are the heat and are a great place
to stash your comments. Just make sure you print them out, as dive software
isn't the most reliable stuff around.
Oh, just dive, baby.

--
Rapid Rick
"Just Dive, Baby"

"Mermaid Diver" <arielbanzon@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Ironically, I am not very comfortable
> using it eventhough I can maneuver it pretty well.

> My question to you; Do I still need to complete my dive planning and
> filling out the critical form after every dive?

ne333ro wrote

>> I've got 35 must-do dives ahead of me next week. I'm bringing two
>> computers.

> Hmmmmmmm, I've never been on a "must do" dive.

Then you are independently wealthy and your time is your own or you're not
traveling to the right places to dive.

Lee Bell wrote:
> ne333ro wrote
>
> >> I've got 35 must-do dives ahead of me next week. I'm bringing two
> >> computers.
>
> > Hmmmmmmm, I've never been on a "must do" dive.
>
> Then you are independently wealthy and your time is your own or you're not
> traveling to the right places to dive.

Neither actually. I just think that getting in the mindset that there
is such a thing as a "must do" dive is a good way to end up in trouble.
I'm willing to thumb any dive, at any time, for any reason. I also
won't jump all over a buddy who calls a dive for any reason, even a
reason I don't agree with. That doesn't mean however, that I won't go
solo.