Integrated Weights Just Fall Out ?

<barnegatdx@aol.com> wrote in message
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> If there is an undocumented trick you've heard of, let us all know
>
> Many Thanks

Usually when people say "sell that crap on e-bay and get a backplate" I
roll my eyes, but that may be the right answer here.

Self ejecting weight is simply dangerous.

You need to either figure out how it works, or get rid of it.

And frankly, I think you should be putting a little more of the burden on
the dickhead that sold you the POS.

-I'd- be down there at the LDS giving it to him as a suppository.

That's EXACTLY WHY you don't buy grey market, remember??????

As far as undocumented tricks, put 14-16lbs (4 x 4lb, for instance) of
your weight on your tank strap bands, non-ditchable, and put the rest in the
pockets.

8 lbs is more than enough to ditch if you're otherwise weighted correctly.

If it still falls out, start figuring out exactly how much your life is
worth.

> Usually when people say "sell that crap on e-bay and get a backplate" I
> roll my eyes, but that may be the right answer here.
> Self ejecting weight is simply dangerous.

Yep, but it's common. I bet I've found at least half a dozen proprietary
weight pouches of one kind or another.

I'll go a step further, Putting 20 lbs, or whatever the quoted number was,
in pockets, when you could move drop 6-8 lbs simply by changing to a
stainless plate & wing, is crazy. OK, so you need some ditchable weight . .
.. maybe. It's pretty certain, however, that you don't need 20 lbs of
ditchable weight.

Lee

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:10:59 -0500, John Hanson
<jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:20:25 GMT, SpringDiver <wab@springdivers.com>
>wrote in rec.scuba:
>
>>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:14:44 -0500, John Hanson
>><jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 16 Jul 2006 06:14:02 -0700, barnegatdx@aol.com wrote in rec.scuba:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2) Did you buy the BC at the LDS?
>>>>
>>>>I would NEVER buy Life support Equipment online...
>>>>or at " grey market" either..
>>>>
>>>>Akin to buying a Parachute on Ebay . .
>>>>
>>>I bought my regulator on Ebay. I then spent the $45 to have my LDS
>>>service it. I don't see a problem with it nor did my LDS. I did get
>>>a comment that said I was too much of a rookie to be able to deserve
>>>such a fine regulator
>>
>>What reg. do you have John? I probably missed our mentioning it in an
>>earlier post. So forgive me for asking.
>>
>Mares V32 Ice

Can't go wrong John. Good stuff. Good price on the servicing I guess.
My two Atomics cost $75 each to service. I may have taken a bath
though.

Wayne

Thus spake SpringDiver <wab@springdivers.com> :

>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:10:59 -0500, John Hanson
><jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:20:25 GMT, SpringDiver <wab@springdivers.com>
>>wrote in rec.scuba:
>>
>>>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:14:44 -0500, John Hanson
>>><jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 16 Jul 2006 06:14:02 -0700, barnegatdx@aol.com wrote in rec.scuba:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Did you buy the BC at the LDS?
>>>>>
>>>>>I would NEVER buy Life support Equipment online...
>>>>>or at " grey market" either..
>>>>>
>>>>>Akin to buying a Parachute on Ebay . .
>>>>>
>>>>I bought my regulator on Ebay. I then spent the $45 to have my LDS
>>>>service it. I don't see a problem with it nor did my LDS. I did get
>>>>a comment that said I was too much of a rookie to be able to deserve
>>>>such a fine regulator
>>>
>>>What reg. do you have John? I probably missed our mentioning it in an
>>>earlier post. So forgive me for asking.
>>>
>>Mares V32 Ice
>
>Can't go wrong John. Good stuff. Good price on the servicing I guess.
>My two Atomics cost $75 each to service. I may have taken a bath
>though.
>
>Wayne

Was his a strip and look or did they put in real parts. I pay about
$70 a throw for service on our Vipers.
--
dillon

JAFO

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:21:22 -0500, Dillon Pyron
<dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>Thus spake SpringDiver <wab@springdivers.com> :
>
>>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:10:59 -0500, John Hanson
>><jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:20:25 GMT, SpringDiver <wab@springdivers.com>
>>>wrote in rec.scuba:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:14:44 -0500, John Hanson
>>>><jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 16 Jul 2006 06:14:02 -0700, barnegatdx@aol.com wrote in rec.scuba:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Did you buy the BC at the LDS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would NEVER buy Life support Equipment online...
>>>>>>or at " grey market" either..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Akin to buying a Parachute on Ebay . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>I bought my regulator on Ebay. I then spent the $45 to have my LDS
>>>>>service it. I don't see a problem with it nor did my LDS. I did get
>>>>>a comment that said I was too much of a rookie to be able to deserve
>>>>>such a fine regulator
>>>>
>>>>What reg. do you have John? I probably missed our mentioning it in an
>>>>earlier post. So forgive me for asking.
>>>>
>>>Mares V32 Ice
>>
>>Can't go wrong John. Good stuff. Good price on the servicing I guess.
>>My two Atomics cost $75 each to service. I may have taken a bath
>>though.
>>
>>Wayne
>
>Was his a strip and look or did they put in real parts. I pay about
>$70 a throw for service on our Vipers.


Dillon;

I had mine done at ExtaSea in Orlando. They returned the old parts.
The folks at ExtaSea tuned these regs. beyond belief. The damn things
were breathing on their own. Well almost. Ha Ha. That was their (the
reg's) first servicing and I didn't know what to expect price wise.
The Atomic brand techs were sparse eight years ago. Remember the blow
torch incident? (Heresay: At one time, Atomic advertised their regs
"T1" as " O2 ready". After the blow torch they changed the manual to
40%). Anyway, now I'm over in Texas near S. Padre island. There's a
dive shop here that does Atomic and ScubaPro. I've got a couple of
them too.


Yo John! Did the annual improve your reg's performance?

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:38:07 GMT, SpringDiver <wab@springdivers.com>
wrote in rec.scuba:

>
>Yo John! Did the annual improve your reg's performance?

I wouldn't know as I didn't use it before that. I actually bought it
the morning of my second classroom/pool dive. I put a bid in with 3
hours to go of $355 for the 1st stage, primary, octo and pressure
gauge. I had a din as well as the..."regular" valve. I came home to
discover that I had won...nobody else bid on it.

Anyway, it wasn't ready for my checkout dives. There was some signs
of salt water so he let it soak for a while. The shop has also
"tightened" up the purge on my octo as it would start free flowing at
the slightest bump of the purge button. They did that the night
before I did my deep dive for my AOW. I had it free flow that evening
while swimming through some milfoil during my navigation dive which
threw me a little off course.

So far it has worked perfectly (except for the touchy purge button) in
the coldest of waters which is exactly what I was looking for. It
breathes super easy even at depths of 60 feet. BTW, my shop charges
$15 per stage + parts. Mine didn't need any parts.

I have an older Seaquest Black Diamond, and have had the weight pouches fall
out several times, even though I am using under the stated capacity (12 lbs
vs. 16 lbs each) in the pouches. Always happened on the bottom, and was able
to reinsert the pouch, but last dive it happened hovering over the wreck. If
I didn't have a reel ties in I would have become a bullet to the surface.
Sea Quest also blew me off, a friend with a Black Diamond had the same
problem. I now have a DUI weight and trim system and won't be buying Sea
Quest anything again.

<barnegatdx@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Integrated Weights Just fall Out ?
>
> All:
>
> - Just got a new Cressi BC with Integrated weight system.
>
> On my first shore dive, checking this whole thing out, I loaded up the
> weight
>
> pockets with my usual shore diving weight load, ( 22 lbs ) 2 weights in
> each
>
> side,
>
> tightened it all up, put the gear on and started out,
>
> only to find that when I went horizontal, the
> weights on one side rotated forward and then just fell out.
>
> Stopped, found the weights, retightened them all, then apprehensivly
> did my shallow check out dive.
>
> On coming back, in 6 feet of water, just as the tide started ripping my
> dive
>
> buddy saw the weights again fall to the bottom
>
> No pain, no blood,
>
> - But is there some trick to using integrated weights so that they
> don't
> drop out, suddenly shooting you to the surface ?
>
>
> not A Word in the Cressi Manual about Integrated weights in the BC
>
> Documentation..
>
> - So I Checked with Cressi,
>
> They brushed me off, said to check with the local dive shop.
>
> Dive shop didn't know.
>
>
> If there is an undocumented trick you've heard of, let us all know
>
> Many Thanks
>