gulf diving questions...

Emily wrote:
> Star wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > Below 80, I go to the 5/3, sometimes adding a hooded vest. Below 70,
> > drysuit.
>
> Are you serious?

Yes.

In the pool when teaching, I don't move around much sometimes. Cold
aside, a speedo with a 3 mm over it is much more professional than a
bikini especially given my age. As for below 70°, I prefer the drysuit
to 7 mm neoprene for a number of reasons.

Much heat is lost through the head, so I keep it covered unless its
warmer than 80°.

The more body mass one has, the more efficiently one retains heat. Men
have a distinct advantage here as they usually have a greater body
mass. And I don't like calling or even shortening a dive because I am
cold.

*

Star wrote:
> Emily wrote:
>> Star wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> Below 80, I go to the 5/3, sometimes adding a hooded vest. Below 70,
>>> drysuit.
>> Are you serious?
>
> Yes.
>
> In the pool when teaching, I don't move around much sometimes. Cold
> aside, a speedo with a 3 mm over it is much more professional than a
> bikini especially given my age. As for below 70°, I prefer the drysuit
> to 7 mm neoprene for a number of reasons.
>
> Much heat is lost through the head, so I keep it covered unless its
> warmer than 80°.
>
> The more body mass one has, the more efficiently one retains heat. Men
> have a distinct advantage here as they usually have a greater body
> mass. And I don't like calling or even shortening a dive because I am
> cold.
>
> *

And I thought I was cold blooded. I'm ALWAYS cold, but never had a
problem in the gulf (of course, I wasn't complaining about being WARM,
either)

"Star" <lclee1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well, don't come whining to me when you are freeeeking cold, then.
>
> *, who has been under ice in 7mm neoprene

I dont whine to anyone.

I am only gratefull that I live in a place that gets cold enough to keep
most people away when the vis is best.

On 22 Jul 2006 23:05:26 -0700, "Star" <lclee1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, don't come whining to me when you are freeeeking cold, then.
>
> *, who has been under ice in 7mm neoprene

Other than the warmth aspect of it, do you prefer diving in a wetsuit
or a drysuit? For example, if you were doing surface supplied diving,
would you prefer a drysuit or a hot water suit?

Scott wrote:
> "Star" <lclee1@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1153634726.822961.292930@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Well, don't come whining to me when you are freeeeking cold, then.
> >
> > *, who has been under ice in 7mm neoprene
>
> I dont whine to anyone.



> I am only gratefull that I live in a place that gets cold enough to keep
> most people away when the vis is best.

I don't mind getting out of the water here as its usually above
freezing. In the midwest, I hated getting out - my hair would freeze
instantly sometimes, as soon as my hood was off. I was often so
tempted just to wear the drysuit, hood, gloves and all, to drive home.

*

"Emily" <rachelp2037@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Star wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > Below 80, I go to the 5/3, sometimes adding a hooded vest. Below 70,
> > drysuit.
>
> Are you serious?

While I'll use a trilaminate instead of a 5/3, below 70 I'll be in a drysuit
also.

Dennis

>"Star" <lclee1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>Dennis (Icarus) wrote:
>> "Emily" <rachelp2037@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:TtCdnSuwx64jsl_ZnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> > Star wrote:
>> > <snip>
>> > >
>> > > Below 80, I go to the 5/3, sometimes adding a hooded vest. Below 70,
>> > > drysuit.
>> >
>> > Are you serious?
>>
>> While I'll use a trilaminate instead of a 5/3, below 70 I'll be in a
drysuit
>> also.
>>
>> Dennis
>
>The 5/3 is a wetsuit. Both my drysuits are shell; one is trilam and
>the other is bilam. I tried the drysuit once with only thin polypro at
>about 75° and found that I liked the 5/3 better at that temp. Below
>70° I want the 200g thermals.

Hi Star,
Yeah, I know its a wetsuit. So's the trilam - equiv to a 3 mm wetsuit
with no bouyancy change.
I'll be in DUI actionwear (wiuth vest if its really cold) since I found the
200g thermals they make a bit too binding.
http://www.dui-online.com/dw_action.htm

> That was Koplin's whine, not mine

Yeah, I know. I should have put his name on that part, but I got lazy. As
far as I know, you didn't claim not to whine either, but I could be wrong .
.. . again.

> I love skking out here when the air is maybe 40° and there is a new
> layer of powder from the night before.

I'm not a fan of powder. Where I ski, or where I used to ski, what I call
ideal conditions, you would call icy. What I call icy, you'd call
boilerplate, etc. Powder of any significant depth, is too slow and too much
work. Thanks to some bad habits that I get away with on hard pack, my razor
sharp Olin Mk VIs dumped me in the snow frequently last time I visited Park
City. I wound up renting some performance skiis from the shop, skies that
had been deliberately dulled at both ends.

Lee

"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> > That was Koplin's whine, not mine
>
> Yeah, I know. I should have put his name on that part, but I got lazy.
As
> far as I know, you didn't claim not to whine either, but I could be wrong
..
> . . again.

Calling a thieving, lying sack of shit a liar isnt whining.

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:35:34 -0400, "Lee Bell"
<pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I'm not a fan of powder.

I ski skiboards (i.e. very short [68-85 cm] skis)... Powder *sucks*
with them, but on groomed slopes, it's easy to do things like 360s and
skiing backwards... In powder, you very quickly learn how to do a face
plant since it's rather difficult to keep the front of the skis above
the powder... They're small enough that I can throw them in a regular
piece of luggage nor do I need any type of special roof top carrier
for them on the vehicle I rent while at the ski area...

For skiing powder, I've found that the parabolic skis make a
tremendous amount of difference...