Re: Viking vs. DUI ?

"Jammer Six" <jammer@invalid.oz.net> wrote in message
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> In article <probably_spam-ECB4C6.20244327092003@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
> Sven <probably_spam@mail.grenander.com> wrote:
>
> ? Considering a new suit by either.
>
> You want DUI.
>
> --

I just bought a DUI suit and have decided to stick with my Otter Skin Suit.
I really don't like the DUI suit at all.

Steve

www.divetheworld.com

Which DUI suit don't you like? They've got a pretty strong following among
folks who've owned them--among other makes--for years and continue to dive
them. Pretty sure they rule the roost for crushed neoprene suits.
Heard good things about the Otter suits also... I just ordered my first
Trilam (cheap Bare), as it seems like a nice travel option. We'll see...

--
Rapid Rick
"Just Dive, Baby"

> I just bought a DUI suit and have decided to stick with my Otter Skin
> Suit. I really don't like the DUI suit at all.

Okidiver wrote:

> Which DUI suit don't you like? They've got a pretty strong following among
> folks who've owned them--among other makes--for years and continue to dive
> them. Pretty sure they rule the roost for crushed neoprene suits.

Dry Until Immersed...

Waterproof (Sweden) wins.

Matthias

"Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Okidiver wrote:
>
>> Which DUI suit don't you like? They've got a pretty strong following
>> among folks who've owned them--among other makes--for years and continue
>> to dive them. Pretty sure they rule the roost for crushed neoprene
>> suits.
>
> Dry Until Immersed...
>
> Waterproof (Sweden) wins.
>
> Matthias
>
>

I've got a DUI TLS-350 that I really like. Never leaked and have somewhere
around 30 dives on it so far.

I have two CF200s and one is still in the box with the seals uncut which I
think I will get rid of. I thought my money best spent on getting all the
seals, zip and boots replaced on my Otter Skin. Maybe it's just a case of
getting used to it but my old faithful Otter seems to win hands down with
me. Mind you, I do like the DUI undersuit which I think is better than the
one that comes with the Otter Skin.

Steve
www.divetheworld.com


"Okidiver" <okidiver@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Which DUI suit don't you like? They've got a pretty strong following
> among folks who've owned them--among other makes--for years and continue
> to dive them. Pretty sure they rule the roost for crushed neoprene suits.
> Heard good things about the Otter suits also... I just ordered my first
> Trilam (cheap Bare), as it seems like a nice travel option. We'll see...
>
> --
> Rapid Rick
> "Just Dive, Baby"
>
>> I just bought a DUI suit and have decided to stick with my Otter Skin
>> Suit. I really don't like the DUI suit at all.
>
>

"Steve Carmichael-Timson" <stevect@nospam.divetheworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Jammer Six" <jammer@invalid.oz.net> wrote in message
> news:bl5o09$692$1@216.39.146.232...
>> In article <probably_spam-ECB4C6.20244327092003@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
>> Sven <probably_spam@mail.grenander.com> wrote:
>>
>> ? Considering a new suit by either.
>>
>> You want DUI.
>>
>> --
>
> I just bought a DUI suit and have decided to stick with my Otter Skin
> Suit. I really don't like the DUI suit at all.
>
I would take a DUI any day

Jay

On Aug 2, 3:32 pm, "news" <n...@tequila-stuff.com> wrote:
> "Steve Carmichael-Timson" <stev...@nospam.divetheworld.com> wrote in message
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> news:3oWdnXUCDq5TdE3ZRVny2g@bt.com...
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> > "Jammer Six" <jam...@invalid.oz.net> wrote in message
> >news:bl5o09$692$1@216.39.146.232...
> >> In article <probably_spam-ECB4C6.20244327092...@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
> >> Sven <probably_s...@mail.grenander.com> wrote:
>
> >> ? Considering a new suit by either.
>
> >> You want DUI.
>
> >> --
>
> > I just bought a DUI suit and have decided to stick with my Otter Skin
> > Suit. I really don't like the DUI suit at all.
>
> I would take a DUI any day
>
> Jay

um - this thread was started - 4 years ago -

that said, I have a 9 YO TLS 350, yes, the old trilam suit. It was
custom, and when I go tit, it was the smallest drysuit they had ever
made. I believe the stock XS is now about the same size as mine. I
like the suit a lot and am still diving it after a few sets of seals,
some leak repair, and at least several hundred dives.

About 6-7 years ago, I had the opportunity to test a suit for a
manufacturer. This suit was pretty basic, close-fitting and back zip,
no frills whatsoever. I actually like the way this suit dives a lot
more than the DUI. I dove it almost exclusively for about 2 years, and
still use it frequently.

When you purchase a drysuit, as with a wetsuit, fit is key.
Compressed neoprene isn't bad, but a shell (trilam or bilam) is
preferable. Neoprene drysuits have several disadvantages, the biggest
being their buoyancy swing. They are very very buoyant at the surface
and at 100 ft, the neoprene is paper-thin and not at all warm. And
you start to sink like a lead balloon the deeper you go.

*
"She's very much more than a dive babe, but they don't have a name for
it
on this planet yet. "
~ Douglas W. Popeye Frederick

On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:50:40 -0000, Star wrote:
> I have a 9 YO TLS 350, yes, the old trilam suit. It was custom, and
> when I got it, it was the smallest drysuit they had ever made. I
> believe the stock XS is now about the same size as mine.

My wife, who is a fraction under 5 feet tall and under 100 pounds,
bought a custom CF300 (yes, 300, not 200) at about that time. She was
also told it was the smallest suit DUI had ever made. Are you smaller?
I
> like the suit a lot and am still diving it after a few sets of seals,
> some leak repair, and at least several hundred dives.

Likewise for my wife's suit. The _tiny_ seals are lighter weight than
the seals on my suit, and do need replacing a bit more frequently.

> About 6-7 years ago, I had the opportunity to test a suit for a
> manufacturer. This suit was pretty basic, close-fitting and back
> zip, no frills whatsoever. I actually like the way this suit dives a
> lot more than the DUI. I dove it almost exclusively for about 2
> years, and still use it frequently.

Our first drysuits were from Andy's. Trilaminate, basic, very
inexpensive. We bought them when Andy's first introduced them, about 11
years ago. And they are still in use, primarily as backup. I'm using
mine this season as the zipper on my DUI CF200 needs replacement, and I
haven't gotten around to it yet.

> When you purchase a drysuit, as with a wetsuit, fit is key.
> Compressed neoprene isn't bad, but a shell (trilam or bilam) is
> preferable. Neoprene drysuits have several disadvantages, the biggest
> being their buoyancy swing. They are very very buoyant at the
> surface and at 100 ft, the neoprene is paper-thin and not at all
> warm. And you start to sink like a lead balloon the deeper you go.

This isn't true of compressed neoprene. The only disadvantages of
compressed neoprene relative to trilaminate are that the compressed
neoprene suit takes _much_ longer to dry, and it is _much_ heavier. On
the other hand, a well built compressed neoprene suit is much less
vulnerable to tears and punctures than a trilaminate suit is.

--
Art Greenberg
artg at eclipse dot net

On Aug 3, 4:13 am, Art Greenberg <n...@none.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:50:40 -0000, Star wrote:
> > I have a 9 YO TLS 350, yes, the old trilam suit. It was custom, and
> > when I got it, it was the smallest drysuit they had ever made. I
> > believe the stock XS is now about the same size as mine.
>
> My wife, who is a fraction under 5 feet tall and under 100 pounds,
> bought a custom CF300 (yes, 300, not 200) at about that time. She was
> also told it was the smallest suit DUI had ever made. Are you smaller?
> I

I have 2 inches and about 15 lbs on her, so her suit would be smaller.
Maybe it was the smallest TLS 350. I just know that Faith took photos
of a friend and I as we had the largest and smallest suits first
made. The friend is like 6'8" or so. John, where is that stupid
photo you had of us, the one that you put elfe hats on when we sunk
the Christmnas tree?


> > like the suit a lot and am still diving it after a few sets of seals,
> > some leak repair, and at least several hundred dives.
>
> Likewise for my wife's suit. The _tiny_ seals are lighter weight than
> the seals on my suit, and do need replacing a bit more frequently.

ditto.

>
> > About 6-7 years ago, I had the opportunity to test a suit for a
> > manufacturer. This suit was pretty basic, close-fitting and back
> > zip, no frills whatsoever. I actually like the way this suit dives a
> > lot more than the DUI. I dove it almost exclusively for about 2
> > years, and still use it frequently.
>
> Our first drysuits were from Andy's. Trilaminate, basic, very
> inexpensive. We bought them when Andy's first introduced them, about 11
> years ago. And they are still in use, primarily as backup. I'm using
> mine this season as the zipper on my DUI CF200 needs replacement, and I
> haven't gotten around to it yet.
>
> > When you purchase a drysuit, as with a wetsuit, fit is key.
> > Compressed neoprene isn't bad, but a shell (trilam or bilam) is
> > preferable. Neoprene drysuits have several disadvantages, the biggest
> > being their buoyancy swing. They are very very buoyant at the
> > surface and at 100 ft, the neoprene is paper-thin and not at all
> > warm. And you start to sink like a lead balloon the deeper you go.
>
> This isn't true of compressed neoprene. The only disadvantages of
> compressed neoprene relative to trilaminate are that the compressed
> neoprene suit takes _much_ longer to dry, and it is _much_ heavier. On
> the other hand, a well built compressed neoprene suit is much less
> vulnerable to tears and punctures than a trilaminate suit is.

True. And the crushed neo has a bit more give, too. It's almost
stretchy.

*

On Aug 3, 10:12 am, Star <lcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 3, 4:13 am, Art Greenberg <n...@none.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:50:40 -0000, Star wrote:
> > > I have a 9 YO TLS 350, yes, the old trilam suit. It was custom, and
> > > when I got it, it was the smallest drysuit they had ever made. I
> > > believe the stock XS is now about the same size as mine.
>
> > My wife, who is a fraction under 5 feet tall and under 100 pounds,
> > bought a custom CF300 (yes, 300, not 200) at about that time. She was
> > also told it was the smallest suit DUI had ever made. Are you smaller?
> > I
>
> I have 2 inches and about 15 lbs on her, so her suit would be smaller.
> Maybe it was the smallest TLS 350. I just know that Faith took photos
> of a friend and I as we had the largest and smallest suits first
> made. The friend is like 6'8" or so. John, where is that stupid
> photo you had of us, the one that you put elfe hats on when we sunk
> the Christmnas tree?

I have no idea if it's still alive and well on the net, but I'm sure I
have a copy on a cd here. I'll dig it out later and get it posted. I
have the Yellow Peril suit on there too.

I might even have one of you from behind with the midget doubles on
yer back. Folks have to remember these are twinned Argon bottles when
they look at the pic.

JF