death and the older diver

Interesting article in the Cayman Compass. Ten people died in the water
in Cayman last year, 8 of whom were snorkelers. Most were over 48,
most of the deaths were health related rather than sports related.

http://www.caycompass.com/cgi-bin/CF...cgi?ID=1019176

sweir toronto canada wrote:
> Interesting article in the Cayman Compass. Ten people died in the water
> in Cayman last year, 8 of whom were snorkelers. Most were over 48,
> most of the deaths were health related rather than sports related.
>
> http://www.caycompass.com/cgi-bin/CF...cgi?ID=1019176
>
>
That's why I don't snorkel and never go to Cayman.

esg
gonna dive til I die, or die trying

"sweir toronto canada" <sweir5492@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Interesting article in the Cayman Compass. Ten people died in the water
> in Cayman last year, 8 of whom were snorkelers. Most were over 48,
> most of the deaths were health related rather than sports related.
>
> http://www.caycompass.com/cgi-bin/CF...cgi?ID=1019176

I heard there was a rash of scuba deaths.

On Jan 11, 1:04 pm, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> "sweir toronto canada" <sweir5...@rogers.com> wrote in messagenews:1168546426.025294.265960@k58g2000hse.g ooglegroups.com...
>
> > Interesting article in the Cayman Compass. Ten people died in the water
> > in Cayman last year, 8 of whom were snorkelers. Most were over 48,
> > most of the deaths were health related rather than sports related.
>
> >http://www.caycompass.com/cgi-bin/CF...cgi?ID=1019176

> I heard there was a rash of scuba deaths.

That's awfully exaggerated. Hardly anyone dies from a rash. Probably
just sea lice.

By far, the majority of divers that suffer sea lice were PADI trained.
Coincidence? I doubt it.

Douglas W Popeye Frederick napisal(a):
> "sweir toronto canada" <sweir5492@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1168546426.025294.265960@k58g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> > Interesting article in the Cayman Compass. Ten people died in the water
> > in Cayman last year, 8 of whom were snorkelers. Most were over 48,
> > most of the deaths were health related rather than sports related.
> >
> > http://www.caycompass.com/cgi-bin/CF...cgi?ID=1019176
>
> I heard there was a rash of scuba deaths.

Be careful. You are at the right age.

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> On Jan 11, 1:04 pm, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
>> "sweir toronto canada" <sweir5...@rogers.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1168546426.025294.265960@k58g2000hse.g ooglegroups.com...
>>
>> > Interesting article in the Cayman Compass. Ten people died in the water
>> > in Cayman last year, 8 of whom were snorkelers. Most were over 48,
>> > most of the deaths were health related rather than sports related.
>>
>> >http://www.caycompass.com/cgi-bin/CF...cgi?ID=1019176
>
>> I heard there was a rash of scuba deaths.
>
> That's awfully exaggerated. Hardly anyone dies from a rash. Probably
> just sea lice.
>
> By far, the majority of divers that suffer sea lice were PADI trained.
> Coincidence? I doubt it.

PADI trains sea lice now?

--


Popeye
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than you can with a kind word alone. -Capone
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> That's awfully exaggerated. Hardly anyone dies from a rash. Probably
> just sea lice.
>
> By far, the majority of divers that suffer sea lice were PADI trained.
> Coincidence? I doubt it.

The last time my group encountered sea lice, 75% of the group, all initially
PADI certified, were affected. 25%, all NAUI initially certified, suffered
no significant ill effects. I did, however, look like somebody had polka
dotted me with a red pen about a week after the event.

Lee

On Jan 11, 7:17 pm, "Lee Bell" <pleebe...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> I did, however, look like somebody had polka
> dotted me with a red pen about a week after the event.

That's probably because you got drunk and passed out and someone polka
dotted you with a red pen. You're lucky they didn't draw a big
moustache on your face. Oh, wait . . .

>> By far, the majority of divers that suffer sea lice were PADI trained.
>> Coincidence? I doubt it.
>
> The last time my group encountered sea lice, 75% of the group, all
> initially PADI certified, were affected. 25%, all NAUI initially
> certified, suffered no significant ill effects. I did, however, look like
> somebody had polka dotted me with a red pen about a week after the event.

Would there be something training related (no matter how subtle) that would
make one more/less susceptble to sea lice that would account for the PADI
trained to get infected and NAUI not? I sure am glad that I'm NAUI
certified and not PADI.

<chuckles>.

Thanks,
Shaw

Shawn B. wrote

>> The last time my group encountered sea lice, 75% of the group, all
>> initially PADI certified, were affected. 25%, all NAUI initially
>> certified, suffered no significant ill effects. I did, however, look
>> like somebody had polka dotted me with a red pen about a week after the
>> event.

> Would there be something training related (no matter how subtle) that
> would make one more/less susceptble to sea lice that would account for the
> PADI trained to get infected and NAUI not? I sure am glad that I'm NAUI
> certified and not PADI.

Must be that even sea lice recognize quality. I can't say for sure that it
was a PADI/NAUI thing since the 25% that was not adversely affected was also
the only one present trained by YMCA. I can say, however, that SSI training
was not a significant factor. The same proportion of the affected and
unaffected were SSI Master Divers.

It's quite odd how biological things affect people. My wife reacts to
everything from contact poison plants to common red ants, to fire coral and,
of course, sea lice. That's the bad part. The good part is that she reacts
so quickly, she usually has a chance to get away from things before it's bad
.. . . except sea lice. I don't even want to think what would happen if a
man-o-war or a sea wasp (less deadly Florida version) got her. I react to
almost nothing except fire ants (what a nasty surprise that was) and one
particular small red jellyfish (encountered while surfing up around Cocoa
long ago), one that seems to sting nobody else. Go figure. She's the
measure by which others know it's time to get out of the water. When we got
into them, we were lounging in the water off Bimini, having a drink or two
and watching the sunset. Soon after getting into the water, she complained
about something biting her. She got out and, in less than an hour, was
broken out with puss filled pimples. It hit her that fast. She was
miserable for day. Everybody else got out as well. The next day, another
of our party broke out. His wife broke out the day after that. Seven days
later, I looked in the mirror and noticed small dots all over my body.
Every inch of me had one or more. No itching, no infection, no nothing. An
hour or so later, they were gone.

I've never paid a lot of attention to potential poisons around me. For most
of my life, I didn't even know what poison ivy, oak, etc. looked like. I
didn't get out of the water because there were Portuguese man-o-war in it
and I didn't even think twice about fire coral. If it's not convenient to
avoid them, I let ordinary red ants bite me to their heart's content while I
do whatever I need to do. No more. My wife is so sensitive to this stuff
that she breaks out if I touch poison ivy and later touch her. Fire coral
grows on things just so it can sting her. It's the curse of being married
to the, otherwise, perfect woman.

Lee