Looks like more workers for Greg's liberal buddies.

January 28, 2007
Migrants Stream Into South Mexico
By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.
TAPACHULA, Mexico - Four Salvadoran men in jeans and T-shirts trudged along
the railroad tracks under a hot sun, their steps carrying them steadily
toward a fuzzy but seductive dream.

They had been in Mexico for only a few hours and already federal police
officers had forced them to strip and had taken almost all their cash, they
said. They had some 1,500 miles to go to reach the United States border,
with no food or water and $9 each.

They intended to walk along the Chiapas coast for the first 250 miles
through a dozen towns where migrants are regularly robbed or raped. Then
they planned to clamber aboard a freight train with hundreds of other
immigrants for the trip north, a dangerous journey that has left hundreds
before them maimed after they fell under the wheels.

"It's dangerous, yes, one risks one's life," said one of the men, Noé
Hernández. "One risks it if you have a family member in the States to help
you. It's not just for fun we go through Mexico."

A month ago, Mexico's new president, Felipe Calderon, announced measures to
slow the flow of illegal immigrants across Mexico's southern border and
reduce crime in this lush but impoverished region. He stepped up the
presence of soldiers and federal police here, told of plans for a guest
worker program and promised joint state and federal operations to catch
illegal immigrants.

But much remains to be done to stop or deter the migrants, and for now the
measures have had little effect. Social workers and volunteers who aid the
migrants say they keep coming.

Every three days, 300 to 500 Central Americans swarm the freight train in
Arriaga, strapping themselves with ropes or belts to the tops of cars or
riding between the wagons, they say.

The migrants still wade across the Suchiate River between Guatemala and
Mexico with little hindrance. Corruption is rampant. Soldiers and police
officers on the Mexican side extort money from the migrants but seldom turn
them around, aid workers and migrants said.

"It's an open border," said Francisco Aceves Verdugo, a supervisor in the
government agency, Grupos Beta, that gives food, water and medicine to
illegal migrants. "We are confronting a monster so big in the form of
corruption that we aren't doing anything."

The federal authorities do catch and deport illegal immigrants from Central
America on their trek north - about 170,000 last year, according to Leticia
Rodríguez, a spokeswoman for the National Migration Institute.

On the evening of Jan. 19, as part of Mr. Calderón's new get-tough policy,
about 400 federal police officers stopped the freight train just after it
left Arriaga and arrested more than 100 immigrants who had climbed aboard.

Still, aid workers say a majority gets through. The biggest deterrent,
migrants say, is not federal authorities but armed thugs who waylay them
along the railroad tracks or on paths through the countryside used to avoid
the immigration posts along the main highway.

This month, Misael Mejía, 27, from Comayagua, Honduras, was awaiting the
train in Arriaga with nine other young men from his town. They had walked
for 11 days after wading across the Suchiate to get to the railhead in
Arriaga.

None of them had a dime after being ambushed a week before by three men in
ski masks in daylight near Huehuetán. Two of the men carried machetes, the
third a machine gun.

"They told us to lay down and take off our clothes," Mr. Mejía said. "I lost
my watch, about 500 Honduran lempiras, and 40 Mexican pesos," about $31.

Mr. Mejía said he would press on. He has a brother in Arizona who has
promised to pick him up if he can run the gantlet through the United States
border patrol. He left a $200-a-month job as a driver behind, along with his
wife. His brother makes $700 a week as a carpenter.

"I felt hopeless in Honduras," he said. "Because I could never afford a
house, not even a car. There is nothing I could have."

Down the street from the tracks, at the Hearth of Mercy shelter, where
illegal immigrants can get a free hot meal and medicine, Juan Antonio Cruz,
16, hunched over a bowl of rice and told how he had left El Salvador after
members of the Mara Salvatrucha street gang had threatened to kill him.
"They wanted me to join them," he said.

It was his second attempt to reach Arizona, he said. The first time he had
endured eight freezing nights and sweltering days aboard the train by
strapping his belt to bar atop a tanker car. The border patrol caught him as
he crossed into Nogales, Ariz., and sent him back home to Usulután, where
the gang members threatened him again.

"When I think about the train, I feel fear and panic, for the thieves who
attack you, and also for falling off," he said softly.

For some, that is how the dream ends, with a fall under the train's heavy,
whirring wheels.

At the Shelter of Jesus the Good Pastor in Tapachula, Donar Antonio Ramírez
Espinas rubbed the bandaged stumps of his legs, sheared off above the knee,
as he recalled the night of March 26, 2004, when he dozed off while riding
between cars, lost his grip and fell onto the tracks.

"I fell face down, and at first I didn't think anything had happened," he
said. "When I turned over, I saw, I realized, that my feet didn't really
exist."

Back in Honduras, he had been working menial jobs in a parking lot and at a
medical warehouse, making about $120 a month. Then he and a few buddies
decided to try their luck in the States.

"You make the decision to look for a better life, not to continue with the
life your father led, and for this you risk your life, without knowing that
you could end up like this," he said. "An amputee."

After the accident, he spent two years at the shelter in Tapachula,
wrestling with depression and thoughts of suicide. When those black days
finally passed, he returned home for five months, only to find his parents,
his former wife and even his three children had trouble accepting his
disability. "My 9-year-old said, 'Papa, why did you come back like this?' "
he remembered. "I didn't dare answer him."

Mr. Ramírez has returned to the shelter here, where he hopes to learn a
trade - fashioning prosthetic legs and arms for other victims of the train.
Others at the shelter told similar stories. Some doubted they would be able
to make a living in their home countries, where even getting a wheelchair is
hard.

But some of those with lesser injuries insisted their accident was just a
temporary setback. Minor Estuardo Cortez, 33, from Guatemala, lost his left
foot under a train wheel while climbing aboard in Oaxaca State. At the
shelter, he has healed and learned to walk with a prosthetic foot. He
intends to continue his journey. If he reaches Houston, he says, he has
relatives who can get him a construction job.

"If something happens to me, I don't scare easy," he said. "I'll do it again
to see who wins, the train or me. Only thing is I can't run, so I'll have to
wait until it's stopped to get on."

On Jan 29, 4:36 am, "Lee Bell" <pleebe...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> January 28, 2007
> Migrants Stream Into South Mexico

For liberals? I thought most illegal immigrants worked in agriculture
and construction. How many liberal farm owners or construction
supervisors do you know?

And why are you whining again? Don't tell me that illegals are taking
your job too.

Greg Mossman wrote

> For liberals? I thought most illegal immigrants worked in agriculture
> and construction. How many liberal farm owners or construction
> supervisors do you know?

None, that I know of. All the ones here hire legal workers. You're the one
that expressed the need for illegal workers, not me. From the way you
talked, I figured you know a lot of them.

> And why are you whining again? Don't tell me that illegals are taking
> your job too.

Just passing the word along, the word, by the way, from one of the country's
most liberal papers, the New York Times. Perhaps the liberal press is
whining, I'm just passing on their words.

No, illegals aren't taking my job. To compete for my job, the Hispanics who
make up the majority of the population and the work force where I live, and
get preferential treatment anyway, or anyone else that wants it, not only
have to legal, they have to be citizens. They may get hired more easily,
and get promoted more frequently and with less reason, but they're not
taking my job. If they want it, however, an attractive buyout would go a
long way toward ensuring my cooperation.

Lee

TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRANTS, MY FAMILY AND I ARE NOT IMMIGRANTS. WE BORNED
AND GREW UP IN GUAM. AS A GUAMINIAN WE ARE THE US CITIZEN. BUT I STILL
CONSIDER MYSELF AS A IMMIGRANT BECAUSE IM FROM THE ISLAND.

MYSELF, I AM A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATED AND ATTENDING THE UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON, MAJORING IN TRAVEL AND COMPUTER SCINCE.

"FARMER" YOU'LL NEVER SEE AN ISLANDER WORKING ON THE FARM HERE IN THE
STATE OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY BESIDE OUR OWN HOME.

SO DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WORK ON THE FARM ARE
THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT CROSS THE BOARDER FROM MEXICO TO US. AND YOU
AND YOUR GOVERNMET DON'T DO SHIT ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARE AND
FAGOT LIKE YOU. FOR YOU MOSSMAN FAGOT

ISLANDS
1 hand
1 mind
1 heart

more to come

AGAIN, THE U.S. HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THE IMMIGRANTS FROM THE ISLANDS.
BUT THE IMMIGRANTS THAT CROSS THE BORDER, AND WORK ON THE FARM.

FROM EAST TO WEST, NORTH TO SOUTH, NONE OF US WORK ON THE FARM HERE IN
THE MAINLAND. BUT GO TO GUAM AND HAWAII YOU'LL SEE ALOTS OF WHITE SHIT
HOMLESS ON THE BEACH AND ON THE SIDE OF THE ROADS. EVEN HERE IN THE
MAINLAND, ALOTS OF WHITE TRASH SLEEPING UNDER THE BRIGD, ON THE PARKS,
EVERWHERE YA GO YOU SEE WHITE SHIT ALL OVER.

SO DO YA SEE ANY ISLANDER SLEEPING UNDER THE BRIGD? NONE BUT WHITE LIKE
YOUR COLOR. YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

IM JUST GLAD I SPEAK AND WRITE TWO LANGUAGES, SO ATLEAST YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN...

STILL WORKING ON, BUT SOMEDAY SOMETIMES I WILL PROVE IT TO YOU, AND SHOW
YOU.

"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:QSzvh.26950$uW.2589@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Greg Mossman wrote
>
> > For liberals? I thought most illegal immigrants worked in agriculture
> > and construction. How many liberal farm owners or construction
> > supervisors do you know?
>
> None, that I know of. All the ones here hire legal workers. You're the
one
> that expressed the need for illegal workers, not me. From the way you
> talked, I figured you know a lot of them.
>
> > And why are you whining again? Don't tell me that illegals are taking
> > your job too.
>
> Just passing the word along, the word, by the way, from one of the
country's
> most liberal papers, the New York Times. Perhaps the liberal press is
> whining, I'm just passing on their words.
>
> No, illegals aren't taking my job. To compete for my job, the Hispanics
who
> make up the majority of the population and the work force where I live,
and
> get preferential treatment anyway, or anyone else that wants it, not only
> have to legal, they have to be citizens. They may get hired more easily,
> and get promoted more frequently and with less reason, but they're not
> taking my job. If they want it, however, an attractive buyout would go a
> long way toward ensuring my cooperation.

<cough>

Here is more good news;

http://tinyurl.com/25zlbn

Biden, as if.

Remember how he "handled" Scott Ritter and why? I sure do.

The Democrat party is coming apart like the cheap suit it is.

These idiots couldn't find their asses with both hands and a map.

Rudy is going to wax them.

Scott wrote:
> These idiots couldn't find their asses with both hands and a map.
>
> Rudy is going to wax them.

Hopefully someone better than Rudy will run... He's way too far to the
left for me... He supported the Brady Bill and the "assault weapon"
ban... He's all pro-illegal-immigration... Basically creating a safe
haven for illegal immigrants in NYC...

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1886

Between him and the Democrats, it would be like choosing whether to step
in dog shit or cat shit... Either way, it stinks...

Condi, on the other hand, describes herself as a "second amendment
absolutist"... Sounds nice, but she supported background checks and
controls at gun shows, so she is a bit revisionist in her definition of
"absolutist"... On the other hand, I am definitely an absolutist... When
the FFs said "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED", they meant EXACTLY that... No
background checks, no waiting periods, no restrictions on the purchase
of any firearm...

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
news:45c0acb7$0$28087$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

> Hopefully someone better than Rudy will run... He's way too far to the
> left for me... He supported the Brady Bill and the "assault weapon"
> ban... He's all pro-illegal-immigration... Basically creating a safe
> haven for illegal immigrants in NYC...

Nope. It's either Rudy, McCain or Clinton.

I am going to do what I have done in the past and vote for my high school
sociology teacher. I still excercise my right to vote, but dont support the
garbage from either party.

> http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1886
>
> Between him and the Democrats, it would be like choosing whether to step
> in dog shit or cat shit... Either way, it stinks...
>
> Condi, on the other hand, describes herself as a "second amendment
> absolutist"... Sounds nice, but she supported background checks and
> controls at gun shows, so she is a bit revisionist in her definition of
> "absolutist"... On the other hand, I am definitely an absolutist... When
> the FFs said "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED", they meant EXACTLY that... No
> background checks, no waiting periods, no restrictions on the purchase
> of any firearm...

So, what'll it be?

Dogshit, or catshit?

We deserve it because we let these cocksuckers run our nation.

Look at this piece of shit;

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...mp/~c1100guHld

49 *million* background checks from November 30, 1998, (the date the
National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) began operating)
and December 31, 2004. 916,000 people were stopped from legally purchasing a
firearm, rightfully or wrongfully, in 6 years.

A decimal of a percentage, 0.018693877551020408163265306122449 to be exact,
and not one criminal was stopped from illegally purchasing, obtaining or
using a firearm. Considering the number of innocent people prosecuted,
convicted and sometimes executed, and the number of criminal firearms use,
this is nothing more or less than a bad joke.

And these brain surgeons want to use that number to further erode our
privacy and freedom.

And guess what?

Greg, JOF and that faggot "Nisarel" will be all for it, simply because it
has the word gun in it, and it will do nothing but empower criminals, invade
the privacy of citizens and further erode the Bill Of Rights.

Stupidity at a ten place exponential.

Gregmoss Fagot wrote:
> TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRANTS, MY FAMILY AND I ARE NOT IMMIGRANTS. WE BORNED
> AND GREW UP IN GUAM. AS A GUAMINIAN WE ARE THE US CITIZEN. BUT I STILL
> CONSIDER MYSELF AS A IMMIGRANT BECAUSE IM FROM THE ISLAND.
>
> MYSELF, I AM A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATED AND ATTENDING THE UNIVERSITY OF
> WASHINGTON, MAJORING IN TRAVEL AND COMPUTER SCINCE.


obviously you did not learn much in HS,
and any freshman who writes as badly as you do
is probably flunking.

>
> "FARMER" YOU'LL NEVER SEE AN ISLANDER WORKING ON THE FARM HERE IN THE
> STATE OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY BESIDE OUR OWN HOME.
>
> SO DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WORK ON THE FARM ARE
> THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT CROSS THE BOARDER FROM MEXICO TO US. AND YOU
> AND YOUR GOVERNMET DON'T DO SHIT ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARE AND
> FAGOT LIKE YOU. FOR YOU MOSSMAN FAGOT
>
> ISLANDS
> 1 hand
> 1 mind
> 1 heart
>
> more to come
>