Going down fast. Dive thread!

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 19, 11:06 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
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>> >> who cares but you could hurt the coral
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>> > There's my pc buddy! :^)
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>> pc?
>
> Pro-Coral

Oh thankyou, the only pc I could think of was politically correct and that
doesn't fit the context
>

On Feb 19, 6:16 pm, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> "Danlw" <dan...@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> OK, anyone who has dived or even taken a course knows about coming up slow,
> and most of us know that, as Lee mentioned, the last thirty feet up should
> be even slower.
>
> How about going down? On a fairly deep dive, I prefer a reasonably fast,
> but controlled descent, slowing when near my depth or the bottom, and going
> neutral before hitting. If vis is
> less or poor, I do slow down. I also double check to make sure that my
> BC/drysuit is working properly @ 20 to 30 feet before the descent.
>
> Anyone see that as a safety problem?
>
> I should note, if I have a buddy that needs more time, such as my wife, who
> needs lots of time to equalize, I do stay with them. ;)
>
> I suck every bit of air out of my wing on deck and drop like a bomb.
>
> It can be the highpoint of my dive.

I'm with Pops. In fact most of the time, I do the FL East coast head
first bomb. I'm at 10 feet and going down while the rest of the cattle
are still giving their OK signals to the DMs.

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>>> "Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:d4ydnXF7PYvRekTYnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> OK, anyone who has dived or even taken a course knows about coming up
>>> slow, and most of us know that, as Lee mentioned, the last thirty feet
>>> up should be even slower.
>>>
>>> How about going down? On a fairly deep dive, I prefer a reasonably
>>> fast, but controlled descent, slowing when near my depth or the bottom,
>>> and going neutral before hitting. If vis is
>>> less or poor, I do slow down. I also double check to make sure that my
>>> BC/drysuit is working properly @ 20 to 30 feet before the descent.
>>>
>>> Anyone see that as a safety problem?
>>>
>>> I should note, if I have a buddy that needs more time, such as my wife,
>>> who needs lots of time to equalize, I do stay with them. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> I suck every bit of air out of my wing on deck and drop like a bomb.
>>>
>>> It can be the highpoint of my dive.
>>
>> That can't taste good, but I do it on occasion. Amazing how much air can
>> be in there when it seemed empty....
>
> I do it every drop.
>
> When (after) you clean your BC or wing, you should blow Listerine into
> it.
>
> A mouthful or two.
>
> It'll be -minty fresh- (and germ free) next time around.
>
> Vodka works too...
Bet that Lemon/lime vodka would do great then....

"Dan Bracuk" wrote

> :I'm with Pops. In fact most of the time, I do the FL East coast head
> :first bomb. I'm at 10 feet and going down while the rest of the cattle
> :are still giving their OK signals to the DMs.
>
> I could do that, but I'd rather stay married.

Seems the easy solution is to get you on a boat where we're the
"cattle", and the bottom is close enough that such a descent is pointless.

Curtis

Magilla wrote

>> :I'm with Pops. In fact most of the time, I do the FL East coast head
>> :first bomb. I'm at 10 feet and going down while the rest of the cattle
>> :are still giving their OK signals to the DMs.

>> I could do that, but I'd rather stay married.

> Seems the easy solution is to get you on a boat where we're the
> "cattle", and the bottom is close enough that such a descent is pointless.

That would be pretty shallow. Over the years, I've found that you see a lot
more if start your descent immediately and are looking down as you are
descending. Sharks and a lot of other sea creatures tend to head out as
divers are heading in. Often, you only have a narrow window of opportunity.

Lee

Dan Bracuk wrote

> : Seems the easy solution is to get you on a boat where we're the
> :"cattle", and the bottom is close enough that such a descent is
> pointless.

> That's a lot more fun than you make it sound.

I'm with you, sort of. Some of the most beautiful scenery and most colorful
fish, are found at shallow depths and, as you well know, the closer you are
to the surface, the more color you and your camera see. The biggest
advantage of diving deeper used to be that you didn't usually find other
divers already there when you arrived. Even that's not the case any longer.

Lee

capt.bill11 wrote:

> On Feb 19, 6:16 pm, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
>
>>"Danlw" <dan...@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
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>>news:d4ydnXF7PYvRekTYnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>OK, anyone who has dived or even taken a course knows about coming up slow,
>>and most of us know that, as Lee mentioned, the last thirty feet up should
>>be even slower.
>>
>>How about going down? On a fairly deep dive, I prefer a reasonably fast,
>>but controlled descent, slowing when near my depth or the bottom, and going
>>neutral before hitting. If vis is
>>less or poor, I do slow down. I also double check to make sure that my
>>BC/drysuit is working properly @ 20 to 30 feet before the descent.
>>
>>Anyone see that as a safety problem?
>>
>>I should note, if I have a buddy that needs more time, such as my wife, who
>>needs lots of time to equalize, I do stay with them. ;)
>>
>> I suck every bit of air out of my wing on deck and drop like a bomb.
>>
>> It can be the highpoint of my dive.
>
>
> I'm with Pops. In fact most of the time, I do the FL East coast head
> first bomb. I'm at 10 feet and going down while the rest of the cattle
> are still giving their OK signals to the DMs.

Don't let the secret out about giving the big "OK" sign after jumping
in. At least up here, the type "A" crowd are suited up on sitting on the
table waiting for the "ok" from the mate to jump in. The "OK" crowd are
still trying to figure out why their first stage is on backwards...

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:18:11 -0500, TonyP <arpierre@hooptown.net>
wrote:
> or pound into the sand if you miss the
> wreck. But no coral here....

Awh, 'ell... If you don't bounce when you hit the sand, you weren't
descending fast enough...

"Dan Bracuk" wrote

> : Seems the easy solution is to get you on a boat where we're the
> :"cattle", and the bottom is close enough that such a descent is
> pointless.
>
> That's a lot more fun than you make it sound.

I hoped it sounds real appealing.

Curtis

Grumman-581 wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:18:11 -0500, TonyP <arpierre@hooptown.net>
> wrote:
>
>>or pound into the sand if you miss the
>>wreck. But no coral here....

> Awh, 'ell... If you don't bounce when you hit the sand, you weren't
> descending fast enough...

In low vis, I sometimes have to look at the depth gauge to see if I am
getting close to hitting something harder than me. Sand isn't too bad.
Just a dull thud, a little re-orientation and off I go.