Going down fast. Dive thread!

On Feb 22, 7:59 pm, TonyP <arpie...@hooptown.net> wrote:
> Grumman-581 wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:18:11 -0500, TonyP <arpie...@hooptown.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >>or pound into the sand if you miss the
> >>wreck. But no coral here....
> > Awh, 'ell... If you don't bounce when you hit the sand, you weren't
> > descending fast enough...
>
> In low vis, I sometimes have to look at the depth gauge to see if I am
> getting close to hitting something harder than me. Sand isn't too bad.
> Just a dull thud, a little re-orientation and off I go.

It's the masts and other pointy bits that suck in zero viz descents.
At least if I drop head first I don't hurt anything valuable.

JF

JOF wrote:
> It's the masts and other pointy bits that suck in zero viz descents.
> At least if I drop head first I don't hurt anything valuable.

I suspect that there are those in this group who would argue that no
matter which way you went down, you wouldn't hurt anything valuable...
<evil-grin>

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:42:55 -0600, Grumman-581
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote:

>JOF wrote:
>> It's the masts and other pointy bits that suck in zero viz descents.
>> At least if I drop head first I don't hurt anything valuable.
>
>I suspect that there are those in this group who would argue that no
>matter which way you went down, you wouldn't hurt anything valuable...
><evil-grin>
>
I missed the point in this discussion where we were or were not in
favor of the ok sign upon entry to the water. Also, I seem to remember
reading somewhere that you should control your decend as you do your
ascend. Any thoughts ?

Rod wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:42:55 -0600, Grumman-581
> <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>JOF wrote:
>>
>>>It's the masts and other pointy bits that suck in zero viz descents.
>>>At least if I drop head first I don't hurt anything valuable.
>>
>>I suspect that there are those in this group who would argue that no
>>matter which way you went down, you wouldn't hurt anything valuable...
>><evil-grin>
>>
> I missed the point in this discussion where we were or were not in
> favor of the ok sign upon entry to the water. Also, I seem to remember
> reading somewhere that you should control your decend as you do your
> ascend. Any thoughts ?
>
Experienced divers, especially in current, generally descend as quickly
as possible. The OK sign for less experienced divers is actually an
opportunity for them to get comfortable and organized while still on the
surface. That's why there is no standard "I'm not OK" sign. (Or maybe
it's because no one really cares.)

An experienced, properly weighted and trimmed, diver can drop faster
than a stone (swimming down) and flare out to neutral buoyancy within a
few feet of his target.

esg

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:19:48 GMT, El Stroko Guapo
<omgray@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Rod wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:42:55 -0600, Grumman-581
>> <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>JOF wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's the masts and other pointy bits that suck in zero viz descents.
>>>>At least if I drop head first I don't hurt anything valuable.
>>>
>>>I suspect that there are those in this group who would argue that no
>>>matter which way you went down, you wouldn't hurt anything valuable...
>>><evil-grin>
>>>
>> I missed the point in this discussion where we were or were not in
>> favor of the ok sign upon entry to the water. Also, I seem to remember
>> reading somewhere that you should control your decend as you do your
>> ascend. Any thoughts ?
>>
>Experienced divers, especially in current, generally descend as quickly
>as possible. The OK sign for less experienced divers is actually an
>opportunity for them to get comfortable and organized while still on the
>surface. That's why there is no standard "I'm not OK" sign. (Or maybe
>it's because no one really cares.)

In rivers, such as the St Lawrence, the current can be ripping on the
surface and much less of a problem the deeper you go.

<snip>

---
Mike from Ottawa

"Rod" <log_dog@verizonnet.addthedot> wrote in message news:45de4ebc.516776562@news.verizon.net...
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:42:55 -0600, Grumman-581
> <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >JOF wrote:
> >> It's the masts and other pointy bits that suck in zero viz descents.
> >> At least if I drop head first I don't hurt anything valuable.
> >
> >I suspect that there are those in this group who would argue that no
> >matter which way you went down, you wouldn't hurt anything valuable...
> ><evil-grin>
> >
> I missed the point in this discussion where we were or were not in
> favor of the ok sign upon entry to the water. Also, I seem to remember
> reading somewhere that you should control your decend as you do your
> ascend. Any thoughts ?

I always try to control my descent as I ascend.

> I missed the point in this discussion where we were or were not in
> favor of the ok sign upon entry to the water. Also, I seem to remember
> reading somewhere that you should control your decend as you do your
> ascend. Any thoughts ?

The OK sign upon entry is a courtesy to the operator of the boat,
particularly when the boat is not moored, drift diving, for example.
Whether or not you extend that courtesy is pretty much up to you. I
generally don't and, except when I think I've run into a real anal operator,
normally tell them not to expect one. If they insist, they're likely to get
a very different sign as I enter the water.

Lee

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:36:35 -0500, Dan Bracuk <bracuk@pathcom.com>
wrote:
> I'm still a rookie so I inflate my bc to achieve neutral bouyancy when
> I get to the bottom.

Neutral buoyancy? Totally overrated... Didn't need it for the Mk-V,
so it must not be necessary...

"Dan Bracuk" wrote

> I'm still a rookie so I inflate my bc to achieve neutral bouyancy when
> I get to the bottom.

If that's the test, I'm also a rookie.

Curtis

Magilla wrote

>> I think that it is perfectly ok to descend as quickly as you can. If
>> you are properly weighted you won't be going that fast anyhow.

> Not necessarily. I will be able to drop like an anchor on Sunday, and
> I'll be weighted only about 2 lbs heavy. (OK, so I'm diving doubles /
> stage, 255 CF of gas start).

Naughty, naughty, fooling your fellow rec.scubans. When you start your
drop, you'll be a darned sight more negative than 2 lbs.

> I'll let y'all know how Key Largo is, if somebody, like my dive buddy,
> doesn't beat me to it.

Dive buddy? You mean someone is actually willing to dive with you? Doing a
shallow reef with Captain PADI, are you?

Lee