OT Canadian Gun Control

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 22:24:57 -0500, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581-YYYY-MM@charter.net> wrote:

>"Mike from Ottawa" wrote ...
>> Gun control is a national choice. Canadians simply have no right to
>> tell the US anything about guns. It just ain't our business.
>
>Correct... You've fucked up your country without any help from anyone
>else... It's only fair if you give us the same chance... <grin>

We fucked it up? Well, maybe some very stupid politicians fucked it
up -- the gun registry was their idea. How many good politicians have
you got down there?

Thought so. We can only commiserate over some beer.

---
Mike from Ottawa

Mike from Ottawa wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 22:24:57 -0500, "Grumman-581"
> <grumman581-YYYY-MM@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"Mike from Ottawa" wrote ...
>>
>>>Gun control is a national choice. Canadians simply have no right to
>>>tell the US anything about guns. It just ain't our business.
>>
>>Correct... You've fucked up your country without any help from anyone
>>else... It's only fair if you give us the same chance... <grin>
>
>
> We fucked it up? Well, maybe some very stupid politicians fucked it
> up -- the gun registry was their idea. How many good politicians have
> you got down there?
>
> Thought so. We can only commiserate over some beer.
>
> ---
> Mike from Ottawa

Point well taken - that is the one thing we keep trying to get right, we
are fighting to not let politicians take away a right guaranteed by the
2nd amendment. We are also fighting the UN on the same front.

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:21:16 -0500, Joe English
<jenglish@accessusn.net> wrote:

>
>
>Mike from Ottawa wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 22:24:57 -0500, "Grumman-581"
>> <grumman581-YYYY-MM@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Mike from Ottawa" wrote ...
>>>
>>>>Gun control is a national choice. Canadians simply have no right to
>>>>tell the US anything about guns. It just ain't our business.
>>>
>>>Correct... You've fucked up your country without any help from anyone
>>>else... It's only fair if you give us the same chance... <grin>
>>
>>
>> We fucked it up? Well, maybe some very stupid politicians fucked it
>> up -- the gun registry was their idea. How many good politicians have
>> you got down there?
>>
>> Thought so. We can only commiserate over some beer.
>>
>> ---
>> Mike from Ottawa
>
>Point well taken - that is the one thing we keep trying to get right, we
>are fighting to not let politicians take away a right guaranteed by the
>2nd amendment. We are also fighting the UN on the same front.

I didn't know the UN was trying to take away your guns.

Your own politicians would never do it either. It's far too late for
you to wonder if you should have gun control or not. You've brought
in laws in most places to prevent loonies from getting guns, so you
have "gun control" in that sense, but there are already so many out
there that it's a moot point. If I lived in the US I'd probably own a
gun, too, just to protect myself from all the others who also have
guns and may not be too firmly grounded in reality.

Hell, our own politicians would never try anything like that here. I
like to think that the gun registry was just a mis-guided bunch of
politicians, who unfortunately pissed away a billion of our bucks.
When you make a monumental, incredibly stupid error like that, you
should be sent to jail, or at least sacked.


---
Mike from Ottawa

"Mike from Ottawa" wrote ...
> How many good politicians have
> you got down there?

Good? Some better than others, but none that I would probably classify as
"good"... Unless you go with the philosophy of "the only good politician is
a dead one"... If that is the case, we've got plenty of "good" ones...
<grin>

> Thought so. We can only commiserate over some beer.

<burp>

<damn-caribou-piss>

Bjórrúnar skaltu Dillon Pyron rista --

> "As an experiment, call the police, call an ambulance and
> call Domino's. You can split what's left of the pizza with
> the ambulance crew while you wait for the cops."

It's a bad experiment. Most anywhere in the US, the police
response time for a serious incident is less than 5 minutes.

"Carl Nisarel" <hostlbuddha@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns95378669BB9E8hostlbuddha@130.133.1.4...

> Considering that I'm a US citizen, your rant is off-target.

You may be a US citizen, but you are far from an American.

Carl Nisarel wrote:
>
> Bjórrúnar skaltu Dillon Pyron rista --
>
> > "As an experiment, call the police, call an ambulance and
> > call Domino's. You can split what's left of the pizza with
> > the ambulance crew while you wait for the cops."
>
> It's a bad experiment. Most anywhere in the US, the police
> response time for a serious incident is less than 5 minutes.

how did you arrive at this conclusion?

ask scott how long it take to get a response up his way.

in LA county, our last FOUR calls to 911 all got the response:

"All of our operators are busy
"Your call is important to us.
"Please stay on the line for the next available operator?

"Crownfield" <Crownfield@cox.net> wrote in message
news:410BFE57.4A1A@cox.net...

> how did you arrive at this conclusion?

> ask scott how long it take to get a response up his way.

Last time a cop was here, on duty, one of my buds who is a cop, armorer, and
firearms training instructor, and I were shooting his new 6.5" M16 in my
back yard. A neighbor across the river (which is actually about 1/2 mile
away) called in because the muzzle blast was rattling her windows, and she
had a new baby.

Fair enough, we sure dont want to scare any babies.

We fired and reloaded 40 round mags for 1/2 hour before the cop showed. The
police department is about 3 miles from my house.

We had run through 500 rounds (with zero malfunctions, I will add), and were
walking back to the house when he rolled up on us.

Jammer called it the "super-duper bunker buster".

Seeing the weapon, he asked if we "had a license for that."

My buddy, the off duty cop says "Dont need one." and nothing else. I started
to see a situation on the road to rapid degredation.

The tension could have been cut with a kinfie, until my off duty bud showed
him the side of the weapon, where it states on the mag well:

"LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY" and then named the department.

I quickly added "He's off duty."

The cop who got called out says "That thing is rude. I could hear it in my
car, coming over the bridge. The lady across the river says you guys are
knocking stuff off her walls. Could you do me a favor and take it to the
range?"

If we had been in the process of murdering people, we had time to get off
500 rounds, and we had 6 loaded mags when the cop rolled up.

He would have been toasted too, if we had criminal intent, and who knows how
long it would have taken his backup to get there.

I have *never*, in my 44 years, seen a police response in 5 minutes.

>From: Carl Nisarel hostlbuddha@postmaster.co.uk
>Date: 7/31/2004 1:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Xns953785FF83158hostlbuddha@130.133.1.4>
>
>Bjórrúnar skaltu Joe English rista --
>
>> Point well taken - that is the one thing we keep trying to
>> get right, we are fighting to not let politicians take away
>> a right guaranteed by the 2nd amendment.
>
>Here's a clue: The 2nd Amendment does not apply to Canada nor
>does it apply to any jurisdiction except the US federal
>government.

Who cares?

I have the right to life and liberty, and nothing you or the police can do
can guarantee either.


Popeye
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice
letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

>From: Mike from Ottawa mev@tika_CANOE_.ca

>Your own politicians would never do it either. It's far too late for
>you to wonder if you should have gun control or not. You've brought
>in laws in most places to prevent loonies from getting guns, so you
>have "gun control" in that sense, but there are already so many out
>there that it's a moot point. If I lived in the US I'd probably own a
>gun, too, just to protect myself from all the others who also have
>guns and may not be too firmly grounded in reality.

Looks like your shock treatments are working.




Popeye
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice
letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain