Gun Debate--Canadians don't need no gun.

Well, it's clear to me why there are some Canadians that are
against guns. They all got knives, and they know how to use them.
Guess they will ban them next. Wonder if this guy's wife would
be more dead if he shot her--once. Dan

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...416507238.html

"Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> Well, it's clear to me why there are some Canadians that are
> against guns. They all got knives, and they know how to use them.
> Guess they will ban them next. Wonder if this guy's wife would
> be more dead if he shot her--once. Dan
>
> http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...416507238.html
>

She must have burned dinner one time too many. Good grief, this guy sounds
like he may have alzheimers. I have heard people can get violent.

"Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> Well, it's clear to me why there are some Canadians that are
> against guns. They all got knives, and they know how to use them.
> Guess they will ban them next. Wonder if this guy's wife would
> be more dead if he shot her--once. Dan
>
> http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...416507238.html
>
>

It doesn't describe the knife, but its quite likely that the knife was not
designed to kill, particularly since it tookl 100 tries.

Apparently, to some, if the item used to kill was not actually intended to
be used for killing, then its ok and no controls need to be placed on these
things.

Dennis

"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
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> > "Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:NPWdnYRN5JzYSHXYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> Well, it's clear to me why there are some Canadians that are
> >> against guns. They all got knives, and they know how to use them.
> >> Guess they will ban them next. Wonder if this guy's wife would
> >> be more dead if he shot her--once. Dan
> >>
> >>
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...416507238.html
> >>
> >>
> >
> > It doesn't describe the knife, but its quite likely that the knife was
not
> > designed to kill, particularly since it tookl 100 tries.
> >
> > Apparently, to some, if the item used to kill was not actually intended
to
> > be used for killing, then its ok and no controls need to be placed on
> > these
> > things.
>
> seems fair enough.
>
>

And here we disagree.

To me, generally, Its what a person actually does with the item, and not
"what it was designed to do". And i that action is criminal, then they'll
face the consequences.

A person killed by a knife, a baseball bat, or a car is just as dead as one
killed by a gun. Presuming that the killing was not jsutified as
self-defense (or other legal grounds), then that person, that person, should
be the one punished. Not all the folks who'll peacably carve meat (long
kitchen knives), hit balls, or drive to work. And, naturally, it includes
those who'll either hunt or target shoot with the weapon of their choice.
Yes, there are folks who hunt here with pistols.

Dennis

"Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
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> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
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>> > "Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:NPWdnYRN5JzYSHXYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> >> Well, it's clear to me why there are some Canadians that are
>> >> against guns. They all got knives, and they know how to use them.
>> >> Guess they will ban them next. Wonder if this guy's wife would
>> >> be more dead if he shot her--once. Dan
>> >>
>> >>
> http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...416507238.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > It doesn't describe the knife, but its quite likely that the knife was
> not
>> > designed to kill, particularly since it tookl 100 tries.
>> >
>> > Apparently, to some, if the item used to kill was not actually intended
> to
>> > be used for killing, then its ok and no controls need to be placed on
>> > these
>> > things.
>>
>> seems fair enough.
>>
>>
>
> And here we disagree.

sure do

>
> To me, generally, Its what a person actually does with the item, and not
> "what it was designed to do". And i that action is criminal, then they'll
> face the consequences.

exactly

>
> A person killed by a knife, a baseball bat, or a car is just as dead as
> one
> killed by a gun. Presuming that the killing was not jsutified as
> self-defense (or other legal grounds), then that person, that person,
> should
> be the one punished. Not all the folks who'll peacably carve meat (long
> kitchen knives), hit balls, or drive to work. And, naturally, it includes
> those who'll either hunt or target shoot with the weapon of their choice.
> Yes, there are folks who hunt here with pistols.


sorry what was the accidental death and injury rate in the US last year, the
murder rate?

As I said I am happy enough with our gun laws you are happy with yours so we
will have to disagree

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> >> "Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
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> >> > "Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:NPWdnYRN5JzYSHXYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> >> Well, it's clear to me why there are some Canadians that are
> >> >> against guns. They all got knives, and they know how to use them.
> >> >> Guess they will ban them next. Wonder if this guy's wife would
> >> >> be more dead if he shot her--once. Dan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...416507238.html
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > It doesn't describe the knife, but its quite likely that the knife
was
> > not
> >> > designed to kill, particularly since it tookl 100 tries.
> >> >
> >> > Apparently, to some, if the item used to kill was not actually
intended
> > to
> >> > be used for killing, then its ok and no controls need to be placed on
> >> > these
> >> > things.
> >>
> >> seems fair enough.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > And here we disagree.
>
> sure do
>
> >
> > To me, generally, Its what a person actually does with the item, and not
> > "what it was designed to do". And i that action is criminal, then
they'll
> > face the consequences.
>
> exactly

Oh? Then why excuse stuff "based on its intended purpose"?
Why punish everyone, for the bad behaviour of a few?

>
> >
> > A person killed by a knife, a baseball bat, or a car is just as dead as
> > one
> > killed by a gun. Presuming that the killing was not jsutified as
> > self-defense (or other legal grounds), then that person, that person,
> > should
> > be the one punished. Not all the folks who'll peacably carve meat (long
> > kitchen knives), hit balls, or drive to work. And, naturally, it
includes
> > those who'll either hunt or target shoot with the weapon of their
choice.
> > Yes, there are folks who hunt here with pistols.
>
>
> sorry what was the accidental death and injury rate in the US last year,
the
> murder rate?

As Doug pointed out, our non-gun voilent crime is 3x higher than Japan's.
And, as was pointed out, one country IIRC Germany, experienced a
near-doubling
of violent crime after banning firearms.

>
> As I said I am happy enough with our gun laws you are happy with yours so
we
> will have to disagree
>
>

Yes, we will.

Dennis