Re: Bush approval rating slumps to all-time low

"Popeye" <Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in message news:...
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> "Geo" <ghmorris@candlelight.ca> wrote in message
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>> Popeye wrote:
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>>> And, what, exactly, would he know about the situation in Iraq?
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>> It appears that he's spent time there recently.
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>> "I just recently visited Anbar Province Iraq in order to assess the
>> condition on the ground."
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>> That would make more time than you've spent there, and more time than
>> anyone else on this NG has spent there. Coupled with his background and
>> long involvment in the political/military process he's credible. More
>> so than many who have made policy to this point.
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> Hardly.
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> He's a congressman on a tour, that has a political agenda.
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> I'd rather hear from Ronald McDonald.

Pulling US troops would lead to 'disaster' -- Kissinger
Nov 27 1:00 PM US/Eastern
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Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger warned that a hasty pullout of
American troops from Iraq would lead to political and military "disaster",
and called on the US administration to stay the course there.

"I think to look at withdrawal from Iraq ... could lead to disaster," said
Kissinger, who served as the top US diplomat in the administrations of
presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.


"We have to keep in mind what our objective should be, and if we leave Iraq
under conditions at the end of which there will be a radical government in
Baghdad, or part of the country becomes a haven for terrorism, it will have
turned into a disaster that will affect the whole world," Kissinger said in
an interview with CNN television.

He added that the global nature of terrorism makes it particularly difficult
to chart a US exit strategy from Iraq.

"The terrorism is not confined to Iraq. It has gone from Bali in Indonesia
to central Europe across many countries -- Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Tunisia,
Morocco, Spain, in some respects India," the former diplomat said.

Kissinger was speaking amid a raging debate in the US political
establishment over whether Iraqi forces are ready to take over from US
troops and whether a timetable for a withdrawal of American forces from Iraq
should be made public.

Kissinger told CNN that it is important to frame the discussion in broader
terms.

"We should ask ourselves very thoughtfully what the political situation will
be that will allow us to withdraw troops, and not simply put it in terms of
the training of Iraqi troops," he said.






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"Popeye" <Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in message
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> "We have to keep in mind what our objective should be, and if we leave
> Iraq under conditions at the end of which there will be a radical
> government in Baghdad, or part of the country becomes a haven for
> terrorism, it will have turned into a disaster that will affect the whole
> world," Kissinger said in an interview with CNN television.

"BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq's former interim prime minister complained Sunday that
human rights abuses by some in the new government are as bad now as they
were under Saddam Hussein. Ayad Allawi, a secular Shiite Muslim, told the
London newspaper The Observer that fellow Shiites are responsible for death
squads and secret torture centers and said brutality by elements of Iraqi
security forces rivals that of Saddam's secret police. 'People are
remembering the days of Saddam. These were the precise reasons that we
fought Saddam and now we are seeing the same thing,' the newspaper quoted
Allawi as saying."

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Popeye" <Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in message
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> > "We have to keep in mind what our objective should be, and if we leave
> > Iraq under conditions at the end of which there will be a radical
> > government in Baghdad, or part of the country becomes a haven for
> > terrorism, it will have turned into a disaster that will affect the whole
> > world," Kissinger said in an interview with CNN television.
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> "BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq's former interim prime minister complained Sunday that
> human rights abuses by some in the new government are as bad now as they
> were under Saddam Hussein. Ayad Allawi, a secular Shiite Muslim, told the
> London newspaper The Observer that fellow Shiites are responsible for death
> squads and secret torture centers and said brutality by elements of Iraqi
> security forces rivals that of Saddam's secret police. 'People are
> remembering the days of Saddam. These were the precise reasons that we
> fought Saddam and now we are seeing the same thing,' the newspaper quoted
> Allawi as saying."

Unfortunately, that's truth.

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> "Popeye" <Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in message
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>> "We have to keep in mind what our objective should be, and if we leave
>> Iraq under conditions at the end of which there will be a radical
>> government in Baghdad, or part of the country becomes a haven for
>> terrorism, it will have turned into a disaster that will affect the whole
>> world," Kissinger said in an interview with CNN television.
>
> "BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq's former interim prime minister complained Sunday
> that human rights abuses by some in the new government are as bad now as
> they were under Saddam Hussein. Ayad Allawi, a secular Shiite Muslim,
> told the London newspaper The Observer that fellow Shiites are responsible
> for death squads and secret torture centers and said brutality by elements
> of Iraqi security forces rivals that of Saddam's secret police. 'People
> are remembering the days of Saddam. These were the precise reasons that we
> fought Saddam and now we are seeing the same thing,' the newspaper quoted
> Allawi as saying."

So, your solution is to pull out!!?

Thanks for making my point.



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<janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Good specialist and experienced in withdrawal. How old is he? 80+?


Januz, I realize it's highly embarrassing to get bitchslapped around the
internet by an illiterate redneck American truckdriver,

<janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately, that's truth.

But you'll get used to it like the rest...

Popeye wrote:
> <janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Unfortunately, that's truth.
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> But you'll get used to it like the rest...

"it" -means screwing up OIF?

<janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Popeye wrote:
>> <janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1133135849.924793.209070@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
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>> > Good specialist and experienced in withdrawal. How old is he? 80+?
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>> Januz, I realize it's highly embarrassing to get bitchslapped around
>> the
>> internet by an illiterate redneck American truckdriver,
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> Oh shit, once again slang. I had to check what does it mean and
> wikipedia gives me the answer:
> "A bitch-slap can be an overpowering backhanded slap (i.e. a box on
> the ear) delivered by a supposedly docile female to a dominant male"

Good luck with the English language...


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> Are you a lady?
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"Popeye" <Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in message
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> <janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Popeye wrote:
> >> <janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1133135849.924793.209070@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
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> >> > Good specialist and experienced in withdrawal. How old is he? 80+?
> >>
> >>
> >> Januz, I realize it's highly embarrassing to get bitchslapped around
> >> the
> >> internet by an illiterate redneck American truckdriver,
> >
> > Oh shit, once again slang. I had to check what does it mean and
> > wikipedia gives me the answer:
> > "A bitch-slap can be an overpowering backhanded slap (i.e. a box on
> > the ear) delivered by a supposedly docile female to a dominant male"
>
> Good luck with the English language...

It really means slapped like a bitch, but hey, who are we to correct a
intelectually challenged Pollak.

Perhaps pimp-slapped will get the image across.

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:06:01 -0800, "Scott"
<pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote:

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>"Popeye" <Popeye@Finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in message
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>> > Popeye wrote:
>> >> <janusz_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1133135849.924793.209070@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
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>> >> > Good specialist and experienced in withdrawal. How old is he? 80+?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Januz, I realize it's highly embarrassing to get bitchslapped around
>> >> the
>> >> internet by an illiterate redneck American truckdriver,
>> >
>> > Oh shit, once again slang. I had to check what does it mean and
>> > wikipedia gives me the answer:
>> > "A bitch-slap can be an overpowering backhanded slap (i.e. a box on
>> > the ear) delivered by a supposedly docile female to a dominant male"
>>
>> Good luck with the English language...
>
>It really means slapped like a bitch, but hey, who are we to correct a
>intelectually challenged Pollak.
>
>Perhaps pimp-slapped will get the image across.

Betcha that intelectually(sic) challenged Pollak(sic) can spell Polack
and intellectually.

BTW. The (sic)s are clues.