I thought there were only nice people to the north

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:17:37 -0800, "Scott"
<pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote:

>"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:llf2m3d61aic5o4sqjuclm6mn18lrkug37@4ax.com.. .
>
>> How much clearer can I say that?
>
>Doesn't matter.

Exactly my point.

JF

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> How much clearer can I say that?

Doesn't matter.

You try and obfuscate the bigoted shit you spew like "gunnys" "steel dicks"
on and on ad infinitum.

If you want or seek the smallest shred of respect, try backing up your
bigoted blanket insults with a shred of fact or honesty.

Otherwise, you just look like another lying, spineless, fucking gun grabbing
coward.

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:17:37 -0800, "Scott"
> <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:llf2m3d61aic5o4sqjuclm6mn18lrkug37@4ax.com.. .
> >
> >> How much clearer can I say that?
> >
> >Doesn't matter.
>
> Exactly my point.

Your "point" is that your point changes from day to day, hour to hour,
minute to minute, post to post.

Depends upon which corner you have painted yourself into.

And, you conveniently, like always, snipped the direct accusation/question
you haven't the guts or basic honesty to address.

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:25:12 -0800, "Scott"
<pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:75j2m359kkur9gst91m2639u8mbju7p65m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:17:37 -0800, "Scott"
>> <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:llf2m3d61aic5o4sqjuclm6mn18lrkug37@4ax.com.. .
>> >
>> >> How much clearer can I say that?
>> >
>> >Doesn't matter.
>>
>> Exactly my point.
>
>Your "point" is that your point changes from day to day, hour to hour,
>minute to minute, post to post.
>
>Depends upon which corner you have painted yourself into.
>
>And, you conveniently, like always, snipped the direct accusation/question
>you haven't the guts or basic honesty to address.

It's funny how in most forums and groups like this the readers
appreciate having the extraneous crap snipped, but here in rec.scuba
we have a number who really like to reread the same tripe, usually
stuff that wasn't worth reading the first time.

Perhaps someone should publish a book "Great Rec.Scuba Quotes of 2007"
if this stuff is so insightful and edifying.

JF

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's funny how in most forums and groups like this the readers
> appreciate having the extraneous crap snipped, but here in rec.scuba
> we have a number who really like to reread the same tripe, usually
> stuff that wasn't worth reading the first time.
>
> Perhaps someone should publish a book "Great Rec.Scuba Quotes of 2007"
> if this stuff is so insightful and edifying.

It's always great when you make my point for me.

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:39:27 -0600, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
> <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote:
>
> >"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:eku0m3htmshfs3refuigvqjvuact0qpclk@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:25:02 -0600, dazed and confuzzed
> >> <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >Because JOF advocates disarming everyone, Us citizens included?
> >>
> >> Your lack of comprehension is world class. Where and when have I ever
> >> advocated disarming everyone. I gotta see a cite on that. Produce it
> >> or admit you just lied for effect.
> >
> >Before you start demanding references from folks, don;t you think it'd be
a
> >good idea if you provided the ones you've been asked for, but ignored?
>
> Your evasion speaks volumes. Did you lie deliberately or was it
> innocent misrepresentation?

It's not misrepresentation. I've asked you for cites when you've accused me
of something - saying something, misunderstanding, etc, and you've not done
so.
Don't ask from other that which you're unwilling to provide.

Dennis

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:26:50 -0600, dazed and confuzzed
> <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote:
>
> >JOF wrote:
> >> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:25:02 -0600, dazed and confuzzed
> >> <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Because JOF advocates disarming everyone, Us citizens included?
> >>
> >>
> >> Your lack of comprehension is world class. Where and when have I ever
> >> advocated disarming everyone. I gotta see a cite on that. Produce it
> >> or admit you just lied for effect.
> >>
> >> JF
> >
> >Look up your own posts. You advocate confiscation of weapons with
> >automatic loading mechanisms, "high rates of fire", That are "too
> >powerful" "scary looking" and confiscation from those who you feel don't
> >need them.
> >
> >
> >
> >What else could I believe?
> >
> >If I am wrong, feel free to correct my interpretation of your ramblings
> >over the years. Make a statement as to what you really mean and believe.
> >
> >Else I will have to continue to infer your beliefs from your statements.
>
> How many times do I have to say this and have it ignored?
>
> I absolutely do believe that certain kinds of weapons have no place in
> any kind of civilized society other than as weapons of war and perhaps
> law enforcement.

And this is where you get into trouble, John.
When asked for clarification on what kinds of weapons, turns out it applied
to all semi-automatics and most revolvers.


>
> I absolutely believe that certain kinds of people should be restricted
> from possessing guns of any kind to any reasonably enforceable extent.

And which kinds of people? Here too, there were problems with your
definitions.

>
> I have absolutely never said that guns generally should be banned
> and/or confiscated.
>
> Your lawmakers seem to agree with me.
>
> This is not to say that several pro-gun folks here haven't [ersisted
> in attributing these things to me, but that's all you'll find no
> matter how diligently you search the archives - lies and
> misrepresentations by the favoured few. It's the classic situation of
> something being said often enough that it finally starts to ressemble
> the truth. In short, some of you have lied so many times about this
> that you're tricked yerselves into believing the lie.
>
> How much clearer can I say that?

Dennis

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:39:53 -0800, "Scott"
<pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote:

>"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:j5s2m3dv4o6427rga1vgdvjb05qh2b3acl@4ax.com.. .
>
>> It's funny how in most forums and groups like this the readers
>> appreciate having the extraneous crap snipped, but here in rec.scuba
>> we have a number who really like to reread the same tripe, usually
>> stuff that wasn't worth reading the first time.
>>
>> Perhaps someone should publish a book "Great Rec.Scuba Quotes of 2007"
>> if this stuff is so insightful and edifying.
>
>It's always great when you make my point for me.

There you go then. Start gathering up quotes. Get Popeye to help. He's
the alpha quotekeeper around here.

JF

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> There you go then. Start gathering up quotes. Get Popeye to help. He's
> the alpha quotekeeper around here.

No one needs any help making you look like a fool/liar/bullshit artist, you
do all the work.

But it is good to see that when he runs your own words/bigotry/idiocy up
your ass with a candle on it, that it hurts.

Too bad you turned into such a dickhead over this issue, but at the same
time it is good to know who the jealous socialists are.

History shows that socialists are the enemies of freedom, and the birthplace
for tyrants.

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:45:43 -0600, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
<nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote:

>"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:uhf2m39obilcnth44278caiuucv1ihkt74@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:39:27 -0600, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
>> <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:eku0m3htmshfs3refuigvqjvuact0qpclk@4ax.com.. .
>> >> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:25:02 -0600, dazed and confuzzed
>> >> <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Because JOF advocates disarming everyone, Us citizens included?
>> >>
>> >> Your lack of comprehension is world class. Where and when have I ever
>> >> advocated disarming everyone. I gotta see a cite on that. Produce it
>> >> or admit you just lied for effect.
>> >
>> >Before you start demanding references from folks, don;t you think it'd be
>a
>> >good idea if you provided the ones you've been asked for, but ignored?
>>
>> Your evasion speaks volumes. Did you lie deliberately or was it
>> innocent misrepresentation?
>
>It's not misrepresentation. I've asked you for cites when you've accused me
>of something - saying something, misunderstanding, etc, and you've not done
>so.
>Don't ask from other that which you're unwilling to provide.

Wow. You're getting really really good at this obfuscation stuff.

JF