I thought there were only nice people to the north

"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:26:41 +1100, "dechucka"
> <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I'll have a think about that as I throw another shrimp on the barbie and
>>crack a few tubes of fosters from the esky and recite out oath iof
>>allegience. "Under the Southern Cross I stand a can of fosters in my hand,
>>a
>>symbol of my native land. Australia you bloody beauty"
>>
>>Actually thinking about that we don't have shrimps ( well only in adds for
>>the septics) we have prawns and nobody in their right mind drinks fosters
>
> Jeez. You sound like a cheesy travel ad for Qantas.

Blood oath mate ( cracks a tinny ), me and the sheila always travel on the
flying kangaroo when we go home to the motherland, only way you can get a
decent supply of Fosters.

Shit I'm starting to sound like Bazza McKenzies

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:14:40 -0500, "Lee Bell"
<pleebell@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>chilly wrote
>
>> Do you know of any churches up here in Canuk land that have armed security
>> guards?
>
>Interesting question. Obviously I don't know the answer as stated.
>
>Here, the answer is yes. Many churches down here, and even more synagogues,
>hire police to help with both pedestrian and vehicular traffic control. For
>the visibly Jewish people in my area, it seems to be mostly pedestrians.
>Apparently their beliefs preclude driving to their religious services. The
>uniformed police providing the service are armed. Further, I guarantee that
>there are plain clothes policemen that are armed while attending.
>
>Is it really different there?
>
>Lee.

Yeah, it certainly is. I've never heard of that.

You folks really do live in an armed camp.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:06:53 -0500, "Lee Bell"
<pleebell@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Mike from Ottawa wrote
>
>> "Personal defence?" The victims were junkies and prostitutes . . .
>
>The right to defense does not stop with the victim. It extends to those that
>might, if allowed, have protected them too. Nobody suggested arming
>elementary, middle or high school students so they could protect themselves,
>but it was suggested that just one responsibly and legally armed teacher
>might have put a quick stop to the serial killings that occasionally happen
>in our schools and have happened in schools around the world. In my country,
>we value the lives of all citizens, even junkies and prostitutes. Apparently
>they don't count in yours.

So you would arm the junkies? Do you really think that's a good idea?
Every adult, no matter how whacked-out, should be armed? Do you arm
psychos, too? Doesn't sound like a wise formula to me, but you guys
go right ahead.

>The point, however, one that you very obviously chose to ignore, is that the
>basis for promoting a disarmed public, according to John, is that there is
>no need for personal defense. He doesn't live in a world where the threat of
>death or serious injury is a problem. He's clearly and demonstrably wrong.

In your country much more so than in mine. We chose a different
route, as did most civilised countries.

>> Anyway, I find it very odd that some of you Merkans take pleasure in
>> some really terrible tragedies here.
>
>No pleasure at all. We Mercans take no pleasure in tragedies anywhere. We
>warned you that the problem was escalating. We warned you that it would only
>get worse. We warned you that your blind insistance that there is no risk
>was not right and that, sooner or later, it would catch up with you. We
>advised you then, that, when the stuff hit the fan, it would be your fault
>for ignoring all the warnings, all the evidence and all the history that
>proves that only those that are willing and prepared to defend their lives,
>property and rights, could expect to retain them.
>
>Don't blame us when we point out that we were right and you were wrong.

You live in a fantasy world. As long as it turns your crank...

Some of your Yes-men gang love to point out to Canadians, gleefully,
when we've had murders and you think your guns would've solved the
situation differently. That's just sick. I don't glorify in all your
gun-assisted murders and mayhem, because I think it would be in
extreme bad taste.

>> These women were mothers and daughters, and they are missed by their
>> families.
>
>Yes they were. The next ones, and the next ones will be too. It's about time
>you guys got your heads out of the sand and recognized what we've been
>saying from the start. You are at risk. Your families, mothers,
>grandmothers, fathers, grandfathers, children, junkies and prostitutes or
>businessmen and housewives are all at risk. Not only can the police not
>protect you, it's not even their job to protect you. It's each citizen's job
>to protect themselves, their way of life, and those around them. It's a
>really good idea to ensure you retain the means to do so when it's your turn
>to do your part.

You do that by advocating that everyone has a gun. We do the
opposite. I go out my door each morning and don't give a second
thought about shootings and I don't believe I'll ever see one in my
lifetime here. I don't think you can say the same.

>It's even more important to quit trying to deny my right to do the same and
>that's what John has been doing for years..

I don't give a damn if you carry around a bazooka and have shoot-outs
every day. Go for it. It's your right.

>Lee
>

"Mike from Ottawa" <mev at tikaCANOE dot ca> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:06:53 -0500, "Lee Bell"
> <pleebell@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>Mike from Ottawa wrote
>>
>>> "Personal defence?" The victims were junkies and prostitutes . . .
>>
>>The right to defense does not stop with the victim. It extends to those
>>that
>>might, if allowed, have protected them too. Nobody suggested arming
>>elementary, middle or high school students so they could protect
>>themselves,
>>but it was suggested that just one responsibly and legally armed teacher
>>might have put a quick stop to the serial killings that occasionally
>>happen
>>in our schools and have happened in schools around the world. In my
>>country,
>>we value the lives of all citizens, even junkies and prostitutes.
>>Apparently
>>they don't count in yours.
>
> So you would arm the junkies? Do you really think that's a good idea?
> Every adult, no matter how whacked-out, should be armed? Do you arm
> psychos, too?

They did at Virginia Tech

On Dec 11, 5:24 pm, JOF <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:26:41 +1100, "dechucka"
>
> <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I'll have a think about that as I throw another shrimp on the barbie and
> >crack a few tubes of fosters from the esky and recite out oath iof
> >allegience. "Under the Southern Cross I stand a can of fosters in my hand, a
> >symbol of my native land. Australia you bloody beauty"
>
> >Actually thinking about that we don't have shrimps ( well only in adds for
> >the septics) we have prawns and nobody in their right mind drinks fosters
>
> Jeez. You sound like a cheesy travel ad for Qantas.

From his last paragraph I was thinking more along the lines of the "I
am Canadian" Molson ads.

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:30:48 +1100, "dechucka"
<dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"JOF" <jofrancis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:l1eul3l0iv5j5dhkt1sj2sa0nqvgmoihpm@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:26:41 +1100, "dechucka"
>> <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I'll have a think about that as I throw another shrimp on the barbie and
>>>crack a few tubes of fosters from the esky and recite out oath iof
>>>allegience. "Under the Southern Cross I stand a can of fosters in my hand,
>>>a
>>>symbol of my native land. Australia you bloody beauty"
>>>
>>>Actually thinking about that we don't have shrimps ( well only in adds for
>>>the septics) we have prawns and nobody in their right mind drinks fosters
>>
>> Jeez. You sound like a cheesy travel ad for Qantas.
>
>Blood oath mate ( cracks a tinny ), me and the sheila always travel on the
>flying kangaroo when we go home to the motherland, only way you can get a
>decent supply of Fosters.
>
>Shit I'm starting to sound like Bazza McKenzies

Please don't try to tell us yer nickname is Crocodile, and if you
start singing about jumbucks I'll puke.

JF

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:59:32 -0800 (PST), Greg Mossman
<mossman@qnet.com> wrote:

>On Dec 11, 5:24 pm, JOF <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:26:41 +1100, "dechucka"
>>
>> <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I'll have a think about that as I throw another shrimp on the barbie and
>> >crack a few tubes of fosters from the esky and recite out oath iof
>> >allegience. "Under the Southern Cross I stand a can of fosters in my hand, a
>> >symbol of my native land. Australia you bloody beauty"
>>
>> >Actually thinking about that we don't have shrimps ( well only in adds for
>> >the septics) we have prawns and nobody in their right mind drinks fosters
>>
>> Jeez. You sound like a cheesy travel ad for Qantas.
>
>From his last paragraph I was thinking more along the lines of the "I
>am Canadian" Molson ads.

'struth. " I am a flamin' okker, and I come from a Land Down Under."

BTW, Molson sucks. As does Labatts.

dechucka wrote:

> nearly but not quite as bad, actually I always thought of you as a KB man

That one is a bit difficult to find around here... I've probably tried
it over the years, but it's been too long ago, so I don't remember much
about it... I'll have to make an effort to see if I can find it around
here...

> not sure why anybody in the States would drink "mass produced beer" when you
> have so many boutique breweries producing such great "style" beers.

Depends upon the definition of "mass produced"...

One of my more favorite local brews is one I discovered over in New
Orleans a couple of years ago -- Abita TurboDog...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abita_Brewing_Company

75,000 barrels of beer produced per year among all their various brews,
so it's not exactly at the level of Budweiser which has sales of over
100 *million* barrels per year...

Mike from Ottawa wrote:

> BTW, Molson sucks. As does Labatts.

Caribou piss...

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Beer

Michael Wolf wrote

>> chilly wrote
>>
>>> Do you know of any churches up here in Canuk land that have armed
>>> security guards?
>>
>> Interesting question. Obviously I don't know the answer as stated.
>>
>> Here, the answer is yes. Many churches down here, and even more
>> synagogues, hire police to help with both pedestrian and vehicular
>> traffic control. For the visibly Jewish people in my area, it seems
>> to be mostly pedestrians. Apparently their beliefs preclude driving to
>> their religious services. The uniformed police providing the service
>> are armed. Further, I guarantee that there are plain clothes policemen
>> that are armed while attending.

> Why?

Why there are plain clothes policemen in church? Sometimes because it's
departmental policy. Sometimes, it's because they consider themselves to be
policemen 24/7. Sometimes it's probably because both Christian and Jewish
places of worship have been specifically identified as terrorist targets.

Lee