Rash vest warmth ??

Will a standard lycra surf rash vest worn under my wetsuit add any extra
warmth ?

Or would I need a specific thermal type to have that effect ?

BC

> Will a standard lycra surf rash vest worn under my wetsuit add any extra
> warmth ?
>
> Or would I need a specific thermal type to have that effect ?

Yes, but not much. A layer of lycra under your wetsuit will add a small
layer of water, warmed by the body's heat, that would not be there
otherwise. Probably more important, it will ensure that water does not
exchange with colder water if your wetsuit does not fit quite as well as it
might. The difference, however, probably won't be enough to notice.

Lee

[Default] Thus spake "Lee Bell" <pleebell@bellsouth.net>:

>> Will a standard lycra surf rash vest worn under my wetsuit add any extra
>> warmth ?
>>
>> Or would I need a specific thermal type to have that effect ?
>
>Yes, but not much. A layer of lycra under your wetsuit will add a small
>layer of water, warmed by the body's heat, that would not be there
>otherwise. Probably more important, it will ensure that water does not
>exchange with colder water if your wetsuit does not fit quite as well as it
>might. The difference, however, probably won't be enough to notice.
>
>Lee
>

To me, the best effect has been that the wetsuit goes on a little
easier.

And if you tell yourself it will help, it just might.

Or your balls could jump into your nose when you hit the water.
--
- dillon I am not invalid

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true.
Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which
will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no
matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.

"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> [Default] Thus spake "Lee Bell" <pleebell@bellsouth.net>:
>
>>> Will a standard lycra surf rash vest worn under my wetsuit add any extra
>>> warmth ?
>>>
>>> Or would I need a specific thermal type to have that effect ?
>>
>>Yes, but not much. A layer of lycra under your wetsuit will add a small
>>layer of water, warmed by the body's heat, that would not be there
>>otherwise. Probably more important, it will ensure that water does not
>>exchange with colder water if your wetsuit does not fit quite as well as
>>it
>>might. The difference, however, probably won't be enough to notice.
>>
>>Lee
>>
>
> To me, the best effect has been that the wetsuit goes on a little
> easier.
>
> And if you tell yourself it will help, it just might.
>
> Or your balls could jump into your nose when you hit the water.
> --
> - dillon I am not invalid
>
> When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true.
> Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which
> will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no
> matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.
>
>

hmm...so in that case would you say a long sleeve insulator vest is going to
be of more use than a short ... meaning it will also aid getting my arms
into the wetsuit too ?

I was just going to buy a short sleeve...thinking a long would be a pain to
wear under my wetsuit.. i.e. thought the sleeves would bunch up etc...

I wear a Pinnalce Elastiprene 7mm semi dry (w/Mares Trilastic hood)...and
was looking at the Mares Thermo Guard 0.5 mm..

> hmm...so in that case would you say a long sleeve insulator vest is going
> to be of more use than a short ... meaning it will also aid getting my
> arms into the wetsuit too ?

Yes

> I was just going to buy a short sleeve...thinking a long would be a pain
> to wear under my wetsuit.. i.e. thought the sleeves would bunch up etc...

All the long sleeve skins I know of have thumb loops to keep that from
happening.

> I wear a Pinnalce Elastiprene 7mm semi dry (w/Mares Trilastic hood)...and
> was looking at the Mares Thermo Guard 0.5 mm..

This is different from the original question. A lycra skin offers little
thermal protection. That's not its purpose. The Thermo Guard .5 mm is not a
lycra skin, it's a very thin wetsuit specifically designed to provide the
same protection from elements as a lycra skin AND provide a little thermal
protection. Worn under a heavier wetsuit, it probalby will add significant
thermal protection.

Lee

[Default] Thus spake "Lee Bell" <pleebell@bellsouth.net>:

>> hmm...so in that case would you say a long sleeve insulator vest is going
>> to be of more use than a short ... meaning it will also aid getting my
>> arms into the wetsuit too ?
>
>Yes
>
>> I was just going to buy a short sleeve...thinking a long would be a pain
>> to wear under my wetsuit.. i.e. thought the sleeves would bunch up etc...
>
>All the long sleeve skins I know of have thumb loops to keep that from
>happening.

Yeah. The lycra wants to bunch up, wet suit or not.

>
>> I wear a Pinnalce Elastiprene 7mm semi dry (w/Mares Trilastic hood)...and
>> was looking at the Mares Thermo Guard 0.5 mm..
>
>This is different from the original question. A lycra skin offers little
>thermal protection. That's not its purpose. The Thermo Guard .5 mm is not a
>lycra skin, it's a very thin wetsuit specifically designed to provide the
>same protection from elements as a lycra skin AND provide a little thermal
>protection. Worn under a heavier wetsuit, it probalby will add significant
>thermal protection.

And you have to make sure you size the wetsuit with the undersuit.
Which means having to buy two wetsuits, one for, one without.

>
>Lee
>
>
>
>
--
- dillon I am not invalid

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true.
Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which
will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no
matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.

--



cheers,
Hi-Soft
"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> [Default] Thus spake "Lee Bell" <pleebell@bellsouth.net>:
>
>>> hmm...so in that case would you say a long sleeve insulator vest is
>>> going
>>> to be of more use than a short ... meaning it will also aid getting my
>>> arms into the wetsuit too ?
>>
>>Yes
>>
>>> I was just going to buy a short sleeve...thinking a long would be a pain
>>> to wear under my wetsuit.. i.e. thought the sleeves would bunch up
>>> etc...
>>
>>All the long sleeve skins I know of have thumb loops to keep that from
>>happening.
>
> Yeah. The lycra wants to bunch up, wet suit or not.
>
>>
>>> I wear a Pinnalce Elastiprene 7mm semi dry (w/Mares Trilastic
>>> hood)...and
>>> was looking at the Mares Thermo Guard 0.5 mm..
>>
>>This is different from the original question. A lycra skin offers little
>>thermal protection. That's not its purpose. The Thermo Guard .5 mm is not
>>a
>>lycra skin, it's a very thin wetsuit specifically designed to provide the
>>same protection from elements as a lycra skin AND provide a little thermal
>>protection. Worn under a heavier wetsuit, it probalby will add significant
>>thermal protection.
>
> And you have to make sure you size the wetsuit with the undersuit.
> Which means having to buy two wetsuits, one for, one without.
>
Nah it's only 0.5mm thick...won't alter the wetsuit fit in any significant
way..

Where are you diving and what's the water temp likely to be? I like to
wear a dive skin under my wet suit, but its more to make getting the wet
suit off than for warmth. I will also wear a dive skin under a shorty
as a little bit of protection. On the other hand, I once dove without
anything besides my swimming shorts and my chest was raw. A t shirt
would have solved that, but keeping the t shirt in place might have been
a distraction from the criters.

"John Smith" <John.Smith@example.net> wrote in message
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> Where are you diving and what's the water temp likely to be? I like to
> wear a dive skin under my wet suit, but its more to make getting the wet
> suit off than for warmth. I will also wear a dive skin under a shorty as
> a little bit of protection. On the other hand, I once dove without
> anything besides my swimming shorts and my chest was raw. A t shirt would
> have solved that, but keeping the t shirt in place might have been a
> distraction from the criters.

Mainly diving Portsea...currently about 14C.... was a little bit cold on my
last dive ( second one for the day just ander the pier)...and same the dive
before...water was 13C then...

Overall I'm pretty right...but just get that tiny bit colder each second
dive...so was hoping the Thrmo guard will solve this... Have bought the
short sleeve...so see how I go next dive..plus it's only getting warmer now
anyway.. ( i hope)...we are in melb here lol..

BC