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Old 03-27-2007, 12:45 AM
Len
 
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Default UBS O2 Stick


Does anyone own or have any experience with the UBS Stick O2 analyzer ?
I believe they cost around US$250.
Any comments on accuracy, reliability, sensor life, etc. would be
appreciated.

Len
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:45 AM
Len
 
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Default Re: UBS O2 Stick

Scott wrote:
>
> "Len" <"lenstjean"@h.o.t.m.a.i.l(dot)c.o.m> wrote in message
> news:bemdp3$58341@shark.pwgsc.gc.ca...
> >
> > Does anyone own or have any experience with the UBS Stick O2 analyzer ?

>
> Yes. You dont want one.
>
> > I believe they cost around US$250.

>
> I can get you into an Expedition for less than that.
>
> http://www.oxycheq.com/Expedition.html
>
> > Any comments on accuracy, reliability, sensor life, etc. would be
> > appreciated.

>
> The biggest problem with them is that you have to press the end of the thing
> onto the tank valve, and try to crack the valve the same way, to the same
> flow, every time, with different bottles. Too much room for error, and, you
> better not drop it, 'specially not in water.
>
> Every person I know of who bought one soon bought a real analyzer or made
> their own.
>
> Scott


Thanks for the info.
Would the Expedition-X with the external sensor and BC connector be
preferable ?
I notice that with the Expedition you still hold the unit up against a
cracked valve.
Although it would be handy to not need a regulator.

Len
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:45 AM
AirHog
 
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Default Re: UBS O2 Stick

> Thanks for the info.
> Would the Expedition-X with the external sensor and BC connector be
> preferable ?
> I notice that with the Expedition you still hold the unit up against a
> cracked valve.
> Although it would be handy to not need a regulator.


I have the "X" Kimber has the Expedition, Hers has LPI plug that you plug
to--no cracked valve.


AirHog


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Old 03-27-2007, 12:45 AM
Scott
 
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Default Re: UBS O2 Stick

"Len" <"lenstjean"@h.o.t.m.a.i.l(dot)c.o.m> wrote in message
news:ben0v2$5gk64@shark.pwgsc.gc.ca...

> Thanks for the info.
> Would the Expedition-X with the external sensor and BC connector be
> preferable ?


Only if you want to remote mount the control box, IMHO.

> I notice that with the Expedition you still hold the unit up against a
> cracked valve.


No, there is a small cap provided with a 1/8" diameter hose fitting on it
that you can run a hose to your BC, fill manifold, etc.
Holding the Expedition up to a valve would be worse than the UBS solution.

> Although it would be handy to not need a regulator.


We also have a DIN adaptor that will screw directly into a DIN valve, with a
hose fitting and restrictor so you can measure tanks directly,
without a reg. I always analyze my gas one last time before a dive, as my
rig is sitting there assembled, and I just use the LP inflator hose.

This way, I have a final look at what is in the bottles on the rig I am
about to put on my back.

Human, mistakes, all that.

Scott




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Old 03-27-2007, 12:45 AM
Len
 
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Default Re: UBS O2 Stick



Scott wrote:

> "Len" <"lenstjean"@h.o.t.m.a.i.l(dot)c.o.m> wrote in message
> news:ben0v2$5gk64@shark.pwgsc.gc.ca...
>
> > Thanks for the info.
> > Would the Expedition-X with the external sensor and BC connector be
> > preferable ?

>
> Only if you want to remote mount the control box, IMHO.
>
> > I notice that with the Expedition you still hold the unit up against a
> > cracked valve.

>
> No, there is a small cap provided with a 1/8" diameter hose fitting on it
> that you can run a hose to your BC, fill manifold, etc.
> Holding the Expedition up to a valve would be worse than the UBS solution.
>
> > Although it would be handy to not need a regulator.

>
> We also have a DIN adaptor that will screw directly into a DIN valve, with a
> hose fitting and restrictor so you can measure tanks directly,
> without a reg. I always analyze my gas one last time before a dive, as my
> rig is sitting there assembled, and I just use the LP inflator hose.
>
> This way, I have a final look at what is in the bottles on the rig I am
> about to put on my back.
>
> Human, mistakes, all that.
>
> Scott


Nuther question.....
The online manual states you simply remove the cap and expose to air to
calibrate.
No need to connect to a standard air tank...correct ?

Len

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:45 AM
Scott
 
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Default Re: UBS O2 Stick

"Len" <lenstjean@xxxhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > I notice that with the Expedition you still hold the unit up against a
> > > cracked valve.


Len, doing a million miles and hour, and probably added more confusion to
this than cleared, let me correct;

The cap with the hose connection has a hole in the top that allows the gas
to flow through and out.

Without a hose on it, you *could* hold it up to a tank and let the gas flow
out the hose barb, but I don't recommend
making a habit of it. It was put there more in case you do the inevitable
and leave something at home, like the hose
connector, and need a Q&D way to analyze.

Scott


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Old 03-27-2007, 12:45 AM
Ed
 
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Default Re: UBS O2 Stick

Not true. At the link below you can order a new battery and sensor
for $85 or have both installed for $99. Check it out.

http://www.oxygenanalyzer.com/stick_referb.htm

Ed


Rich Lockyer wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:23:45 -0400, Len
><"lenstjean"@h.o.t.m.a.i.l(dot)c.o.m> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Does anyone own or have any experience with the UBS Stick O2 analyzer ?
>>I believe they cost around US$250.
>>Any comments on accuracy, reliability, sensor life, etc. would be
>>appreciated.
>>
>>

>
>Ya.
>
>When the sensor goes out, it's another $250.
>
>Buy the El Cheapo for $100, learn to operate a soldering iron, and
>you're done.
>
>
>
> --- Rich
> http://richlockyer.tripod.com/
>
>


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Old 03-27-2007, 12:45 AM
Rich Lockyer
 
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Default Re: UBS O2 Stick

Compared to $65 for a new sensor and $3 for a new battery for the El
Cheapo... and not have to send it anywhere.

And with the Sensor Saver, you can easily get better than 2 years on
the R17-MED used by the El Cheapo.



On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 04:32:21 GMT, Ed <espilman@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:

> Not true. At the link below you can order a new battery and sensor
>for $85 or have both installed for $99. Check it out.
>
>http://www.oxygenanalyzer.com/stick_referb.htm
>
>Ed
>
>
>Rich Lockyer wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:23:45 -0400, Len
>><"lenstjean"@h.o.t.m.a.i.l(dot)c.o.m> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Does anyone own or have any experience with the UBS Stick O2 analyzer ?
>>>I believe they cost around US$250.
>>>Any comments on accuracy, reliability, sensor life, etc. would be
>>>appreciated.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>Ya.
>>
>>When the sensor goes out, it's another $250.
>>
>>Buy the El Cheapo for $100, learn to operate a soldering iron, and
>>you're done.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Rich
>> http://richlockyer.tripod.com/
>>
>>



--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:45 AM
Scott
 
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Default Re: UBS O2 Stick

"Scott" <busted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The US Navy used to use AI sensors (lower price), but due to reliability

and
> performance issues, not to mention magnetism
> (disarming mines and such) they use either the R22HO or the R10DS.


Correction:

For de-mining, they use the non-magnetic R10DV.


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Old 03-27-2007, 12:45 AM
Rich Lockyer
 
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Default Re: UBS O2 Stick

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:56:41 -0700, "Scott" <busted@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I would have to think real hard to add up how many people I know, including
>me, that have and use El Cheapo's. It is a lot.
>
>Some guys put them in a slightly larger project box, and mount the sensor
>internally.


I put mine in a slant-front box with battery compartment, but wanted
to keep the sensor itself remote.
Everything goes into a small Pelican. The slant front keeps the lid
from hitting the switch, and the sensor, coiled cord, LPI flow
restrictor, and short length of tubing all fit nicely.



--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/
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