Cobra vs Wisdom

I am looking for a computer to replace my Suunto Eon and have narrowed
it down to the Cobra or Wisdom. Any pros or cons to either? Any other
I should consider?

Thanks!


Bob Denton
Gulf Stream International
Delray Beach, Florida
www.sinkthestink.com
Manufacturers of Sink the Stink

In news:tarvjvk27opf9cbig6kauuo9oggfq5cg03@4ax.com, Bob Denton deftly
typed:
> I am looking for a computer to replace my Suunto Eon and have narrowed
> it down to the Cobra or Wisdom. Any pros or cons to either? Any other
> I should consider?
>
> Thanks!
>

Don't know about the Wisdom, but I've been diving with the Cobra for
three years, in cold water, warm water, saltwater etc, and no problems
to report whatsoever. I haven't even had to change the battery yet.
If I had to complain, it would be on the price of the computer interface
cable, at $279.95CDN dollars around here (for a cable???). A local dive
shop went around that problem by renting it, which I do twice a year.
Another thing I wonder about is the "no fly time" that the computer
penalize you with; It's about twice the amount of time compared to a
Uwatec comp, and I'm wondering if it's really necessary (I had to cancel
my last dive in Cuba last year, which was a bummer).
Overall I feel the Cobra is a well designed, reliable, easy to use and
tough piece of equipement.
--
Martin.
"The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
T.H.Huxley

>Subject: Re: Cobra vs Wisdom
>From: "MCL"

>If I had to complain, it would be on the price of the computer interface
>cable, at $279.95CDN dollars

Here's a site you might be interested in, that's the assemled one

http://www.athenshomesolutions.com/id14.html

Dennis

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 17:42:29 -0400, "MCL" <kodiac_city@nospamyahoo.ca>
wrote:

>In news:tarvjvk27opf9cbig6kauuo9oggfq5cg03@4ax.com, Bob Denton deftly
>typed:
>> I am looking for a computer to replace my Suunto Eon and have narrowed
>> it down to the Cobra or Wisdom. Any pros or cons to either? Any other
>> I should consider?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>Don't know about the Wisdom, but I've been diving with the Cobra for
>three years, in cold water, warm water, saltwater etc, and no problems
>to report whatsoever. I haven't even had to change the battery yet.
>If I had to complain, it would be on the price of the computer interface
>cable, at $279.95CDN dollars around here (for a cable???). A local dive
>shop went around that problem by renting it, which I do twice a year.
>Another thing I wonder about is the "no fly time" that the computer
>penalize you with; It's about twice the amount of time compared to a
>Uwatec comp, and I'm wondering if it's really necessary (I had to cancel
>my last dive in Cuba last year, which was a bummer).
>Overall I feel the Cobra is a well designed, reliable, easy to use and
>tough piece of equipement.

Does it appear more conservative than computers used by other divers
you have dived with?
Bob Denton
Gulf Stream International
Delray Beach, Florida
www.sinkthestink.com
Manufacturers of Sink the Stink

In news:2uj1kvgvtrgp2828c58qgimrl8nhsh05e1@4ax.com, Bob Denton deftly
typed:
>
> Does it appear more conservative than computers used by other divers
> you have dived with?


Yes and no. My own experience comparing with Uwatec aladin comp was that
The Cobra was more conservative for square diving, less for multilevel
(if you mean by conservative the amount of deco time you are penalized
with). But I've never made any serious research on the subject and my
own observation are based only on about 30 dives I've made with European
diver (European seems to favor the aladin over any other). My regular
diving buddies dive with either the Vyper or Cobra; And I feel it's more
important to match your regular than a minute or two of deco time.

One thing though is, at the risk of repeating myself, is the really
really high "no fly" time. I'm gonna try to contact Suunto about this
before my next trip; The cobra showing 37 hours "no fly" while the
Aladin, that went trough the same dive profile, showed only 17 "no fly"
hours is, to put it mildly, weird (Some would argue that it's safer, but
so would staying home and in bed:)).
--
Martin.
"The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
T.H.Huxley

MCL wrote:

> In news:2uj1kvgvtrgp2828c58qgimrl8nhsh05e1@4ax.com, Bob Denton deftly
> typed:
>
>>Does it appear more conservative than computers used by other divers
>>you have dived with?
>>
>
>
> Yes and no. My own experience comparing with Uwatec aladin comp was that
> The Cobra was more conservative for square diving, less for multilevel
> (if you mean by conservative the amount of deco time you are penalized
> with). But I've never made any serious research on the subject and my
> own observation are based only on about 30 dives I've made with European
> diver (European seems to favor the aladin over any other). My regular
> diving buddies dive with either the Vyper or Cobra; And I feel it's more
> important to match your regular than a minute or two of deco time.
>
> One thing though is, at the risk of repeating myself, is the really
> really high "no fly" time. I'm gonna try to contact Suunto about this
> before my next trip; The cobra showing 37 hours "no fly" while the
> Aladin, that went trough the same dive profile, showed only 17 "no fly"
> hours is, to put it mildly, weird (Some would argue that it's safer, but
> so would staying home and in bed:)).
>
I have never had any problem with the no fly on the cobra. While I have never pushed

the limits while diving, a dive trip on the Nekton with multiple dives
everyday never caused a problem - one day was six dives starting with a
dawn dive at over 100'. My aqualand when into error mode but never the
Cobra. Had I been diving on tables I would gave been done after two dives.

In news:3F436424.8030500@accessus.net, Joe English deftly typed:
> I have never had any problem with the no fly on the cobra. While I
> have never pushed
>
> the limits while diving, a dive trip on the Nekton with multiple dives
> everyday never caused a problem - one day was six dives starting with
> a dawn dive at over 100'. My aqualand when into error mode but never
> the Cobra. Had I been diving on tables I would gave been done after
> two dives.


I haven't said there was a "problem", all I said was that the no fly
time after a week of diving was veeeeeeeeeeeery looooooooooooooooooooong
compared to other computers.
Cheers.
--
Martin.
"The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
T.H.Huxley

You're right on the suunto no fly times. They are almost as long as the
complete desat time on a uwatec computer. Nothing you can do about it
(except buying a uwatec)


MCL wrote:
> In news:3F436424.8030500@accessus.net, Joe English deftly typed:
>
>>I have never had any problem with the no fly on the cobra. While I
>>have never pushed
>>
>>the limits while diving, a dive trip on the Nekton with multiple dives
>>everyday never caused a problem - one day was six dives starting with
>>a dawn dive at over 100'. My aqualand when into error mode but never
>>the Cobra. Had I been diving on tables I would gave been done after
>>two dives.
>
>
>
> I haven't said there was a "problem", all I said was that the no fly
> time after a week of diving was veeeeeeeeeeeery looooooooooooooooooooong
> compared to other computers.
> Cheers.

edwin <evr@dirtydivers.net> skriver:
> You're right on the suunto no fly times. They are almost as long as the
> complete desat time on a uwatec computer. Nothing you can do about it
> (except buying a uwatec)

So the safty is to hight for you :) Nothing to do but to choose a
computer with less safty margin. Well I prefer being safe, and my
suunto alwas has had shorter no fly time that the DAN recomendations
anyhow... Using the DAN recomendations is for me a minumum...

/ Balp
--
http://anders.arnholm.nu/ Keep on Balping

In news:20030817182246.21973.00000119@mb-m17.aol.com, Den73740 deftly
typed:
>
> Here's a site you might be interested in, that's the assemled one
>
> http://www.athenshomesolutions.com/id14.html
>
> Dennis

Somehow your post, dated 8/17/2003, just made it's way to my
newsreader??? Anyhow, I've made something similar, right down to the
printed circuit board, from blueprint I got from the internet. I was
looking for a connector for the suunto when I met a guy in a dive shop
who've made one and fucked up his dive computer with it; Costed him
$350.00 to have his Vyper fixed. I still have the printed circuit board
on my desk, maybe when the time come to replace the Cobra, I'll give it
a try just for the heck of it.
This thing might work ok, but I'm not taking the chance, especially
since I can now rent the unit for $15.00 and split the cost 3 ways. But
thank's anyhow.
--
Martin.
"The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
T.H.Huxley