I'm baaaaaaack...

bullshark wrote:

[snipped a bunch of well said bullshark stuff]

> You shouldn't get emotionally involved with operating systems or
> software. It get's in the way of learning what they do and how to
> use them effectively.
>
>

^5


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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:11:09 +0200, Anders Arnholm <Anders+news@Arnholm.nu> wrote:

>
>> Don't compare the users that don't/can't manage multiple user accounts
>> to those that do/can. MS is the 'VolksPlatform'. No particular expertise
>> is needed, from my 9 year old niece to my 84 year old FIL, it is equally
>
>Windows is the hardet platform to admin it has the mosrt things that
>you have to learn before administrating. That no experteese is needed
>is a big lie

I said nothing about administering. I said no particular expertise is
needed for it to be useful.

>At the moment Windows is the far most complex and hard OS
>to understand

You have got to be kidding.

>Saing that windows is
>easy is just a plain lie, that could be based on being workly
>informaed by someone else that lied.

You'll have to explain that to my 9 year old niece and my
84 year old FIL. Neither one has any particular expertise and
they use their systems daily.

"Alan Street" <alan@nonono_irsi.com> wrote in message
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<applause>



> With profound acknowledglement to Lady Lieke, who assisted most greatly:
>
> In the interest of self preservation
> And maintaining a good reputation
> I¹ve been told it¹s past time
> To come up with some rhymes
> Avoiding, one hopes, humiliation
>
> Limericks - not my cup of tea
> I¹d rather play round in laboratories
> Ion beams are just fine
> OCept I can¹t make Oem rhyme
> They¹re like apples and oranges to me
>
> Scuba diving, now that I get better
> Except on on rec.scuba, where no one gets wetter
> Not that I mind
> OCause everyone here is most kind
> OCept Angelmoon * I really don¹t get her
>
> DIR is all now the rage
> From long hoses to a wrist mounted gauge
> Some are right, some are wrong
> Some just want to belong
> But for sure, Kane will take centre stage
>
> Now my story on here is all through
> From apples to oranges * who knew?
> Now it¹s time to blow bubbles
> And forget all our troubles
> OLeast for me, that¹s what I¹m going to do

bullshark <bullshark@scubadiving.com> wrote:
>You shouldn't get emotionally involved with operating systems or
>software. It get's in the way of learning what they do and how to
>use them effectively.

You seem a tad hot under the collar on the subject. Extremely defensive too.

--
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In article <big5st$lgf$1@agate.berkeley.edu>, Jason O'Rourke
<jor@soda.csua.berkeley.edu> wrote:

€ You seem a tad hot under the collar on the subject. Extremely defensive too.

Comes from running inferior systems.

People who think you shouldn't get involved with their systems are
probably right.

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"We're going to rush the hijackers."
-Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

bullshark <bullshark@scubadiving.com> skriver:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:11:09 +0200, Anders Arnholm <Anders+news@Arnholm.nu> wrote:
>>Windows is the hardet platform to admin it has the mosrt things that
>>you have to learn before administrating. That no experteese is needed
>>is a big lie
> I said nothing about administering. I said no particular expertise is
> needed for it to be useful.

What is usefull, why is it harder or easier that anything else around?
Yes you can use it with out anyknowledge, but i.m.h.o. you should NOT
be allowed to connect it to anykind of network with out an loot more
knowledge.

>>At the moment Windows is the far most complex and hard OS
>>to understand
> You have got to be kidding.

No, I know what I'm talking about, Windows has the most complex inner
workings of any OS, even being more comlicated that ond fine VMS. On
this a little nice looking layer has been fitted trying to make it
look nifty and easy. But thats only a glue on layer making it look
nice. As soon as you run into any problem this glue layer isn't going
to help you. If you at that moment don't know your OS inside and out,
you might have to resoulv into reinstalling the system.

>>Saing that windows is
>>easy is just a plain lie, that could be based on being workly
>>informaed by someone else that lied.
> You'll have to explain that to my 9 year old niece and my
> 84 year old FIL. Neither one has any particular expertise and
> they use their systems daily.

And they know howto stay up to date and can understand the meaning of
a security bulletin from Microsoft? Using the interface doing som work
is not the same thing as understanding the OS. The system has a nice
layout and look easy, but in the bottom it's the hardest one to
understand of them all.

Hiding it with a loot of nice looking graphics doesn't change that.

/ Balp
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"Scott" <scottk@hctc.com> wrote in message news:<vk894v6j2i4b0c@corp.supernews.com>...

> Gang,
> During the move I have been really lucky/unlucky.
<snip for space>

Best of luck to you both in your new abode. :)

In article <e673a058.0308271110.2274d02a@posting.google.com >,
babette7401@hotmail.com says...
>
>Alan Street <alan@nonono_irsi.com> wrote in message
news:<250820032300073138%alan@nonono_irsi.com>...
>
>> With profound acknowledglement to Lady Lieke, who assisted most greatly:
><snip for space>
>
>Very cute !!!!!!!!

Thank you!