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Old 03-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: Shoulder Strap Release for Backplate Harness

Rich Lockyer wrote

> I tried... no worky.
> Below the D-ring interferes with the backup light.
> Above the D-ring feels like a brick against your shoulder.
> Low enough to clear the backup light and you have to be even more
> flexible than you need to be without the QD.


Your needs aren't the same. Charlie dives singles and, as far as I know,
does not use a cannister light or deco bottles. If he has a backup light at
all, it can go on the right side. I agree, however, that above the D ring
would be uncomfortable.

Lee


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Old 03-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Michael Wolf
 
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"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in
news:PVo8b.405$Aq2.138@newsread1.news.atl.earthlin k.net:

> Drop in on uk.rec.scuba and find an address for Nigel Hewett. He's a
> regular poster there. He has an inverted twinset that seems to work
> pretty well for him.
>
> Oh yes, don't take your rec.scuba attitude with you, assuming you have
> one. It's different over there.
>
> Lee
>


Good piece of advice, Lee.



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Old 03-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Charlie Hammond
 
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In article <sQo8b.398$Aq2.273@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.ne t>,
"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> writes:

>The only thing I can find wrong with your plan is the location of the
>buckle. On my wing, the shoulder straps go under my arm fairly high on my
>body. Putting the buckle low on the strap would probably put it mostly
>behind me, making it a bit harder to reach and quite a bit harder to
>reconnect if it came lose accidentally. If I were to do it with the same
>device, I think I'd put it higher, probably right under the left chest D
>ring. I think I'd also thread another piece of inner tube onto the strap
>that could be slid over the release to make sure it did not get released
>unintentionally.


Thanks for the thoughts, Lee.

Based on this and other postings, It seems that if I end up doing this
I have to think a bit more about the buckle location.
Also the piece of innertube to keep the buckle closed is a worthwhile
idea.

As for interfering with other gear -- I sould be able to work that
out, I think, when/if it becomes a problem. I have dived with lights
on both chest rings, and I think that if both the buckle and light
were properly placed this would not be an problem, but it is an
issue to be considred.

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Jim.Greenlee@cc.gatech.edu
 
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Default Re: Shoulder Strap Release for Backplate Harness

hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say:
>
>And as much as I love and cherish my wife/buddy, I would prefer NOT to
>require her assistance.


Charlie, there is nothing wrong with requesting someone's assistance
when you need it. I do it all the time, and I also give it gladly when
asked. That is the whole point of team diving - team members watch out
for and help each other when necessary.

-JimG

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Chandler
 
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Default Re: Shoulder Strap Release for Backplate Harness

In article <Gsk9b.4708$5T5.3193@news.cpqcorp.net>,
hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) wrote:

> Even if I can't re-thread it, I should be able to anage the rig
> with the wasit belt and remaining shoulder strap.


i suppose you could test this by sliping your left arm out of the
harness next time out and see what it feels like.

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Charlie Hammond
 
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In article <bk4mjh$jdn$1@news-int.gatech.edu>,
Jim.Greenlee@cc.gatech.edu writes:

>Charlie, there is nothing wrong with requesting someone's assistance
>when you need it. I do it all the time, and I also give it gladly when
>asked. That is the whole point of team diving - team members watch out
>for and help each other when necessary.


Nor is there anything wrong with setting yourself up so that help
is not necessary. Makes the team function better.

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(hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Jim.Greenlee@cc.gatech.edu
 
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hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say:
>In article <bk4mjh$jdn$1@news-int.gatech.edu>,
>Jim.Greenlee@cc.gatech.edu writes:
>
>>Charlie, there is nothing wrong with requesting someone's assistance
>>when you need it.

>
>Nor is there anything wrong with setting yourself up so that help
>is not necessary.


Actually, the ideal situation is to do both - team members need to be
individually, independently capable *and* also willing to ask for and
give help when it is needed.

-JimG

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Charlie Hammond
 
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Default Re: Shoulder Strap Release for Backplate Harness

In article <bk524g$qvu$1@news-int.gatech.edu>, Jim.Greenlee@cc.gatech.edu writes:
>hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say:
>>In article <bk4mjh$jdn$1@news-int.gatech.edu>,
>>Jim.Greenlee@cc.gatech.edu writes:
>>
>>>Charlie, there is nothing wrong with requesting someone's assistance
>>>when you need it.

>>
>>Nor is there anything wrong with setting yourself up so that help
>>is not necessary.

>
>Actually, the ideal situation is to do both - team members need to be
>individually, independently capable *and* also willing to ask for and
>give help when it is needed.


We agree on this.

Obviously we disagree on whether or not a buckle on an shoulder strap
strikes the wrong balance on this. In defense of my position I point
out that there could be a need for this buckle underwater in a situation
where a team member was not able to assist. For example, this could happen
in a confined situation. It could also happen if we made the mistake
of getting separated.

Opinions will differ. Mine is that the right (or "optimal") solution
may vary from one diver to another.

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(hammond@peek.ppb.dec.com -- remove "@not" when replying)
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Jammer Six
 
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In article <KTp9b.4774$ik6.3870@news.cpqcorp.net>, Charlie Hammond
<hammond@not@peek.enet.dec.com> wrote:

€ For example, this could happen in a confined situation. It could
€ also happen if we made the mistake of getting separated.

Genious. Sheer genious.

In a situation confined enough to eliminate assistance, such a buckle
would never be tripped inadvertantly, of course.

That's what we like to see.

George is right. There is such a thing as a "never, ever".

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Excitable Boy
 
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Default Re: Shoulder Strap Release for Backplate Harness

> way to do it? I think it places the buckle in a location where it
> will not intefere with other gear.



I would suggest you forget all of that happy shit and have someone properly
fit your harness and BP.


MDH


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