Reg recommendation

Hi,
I'm looking for a new reg. What would you recommend and why? Here's what
I'm looking for:
Piston first stage
High flow
DIN connector
2 HP port
5 LP port
NO second stage external adjustement
NO gadjets or gimmicks

Does it exist?

Thank you for your time and advice,

--
Martin.
"The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
T.H.Huxley

In article <rPkkb.5039$F31.473456@news20.bellglobal.com>, MCL
<mako_city@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:

#Hi,
#I'm looking for a new reg. What would you recommend and why? Here's what
#I'm looking for:
#Piston first stage
#High flow
#DIN connector
#2 HP port
#5 LP port
#NO second stage external adjustement
#NO gadjets or gimmicks
#
#Does it exist?
#
#Thank you for your time and advice,


The closest would be a Scubapro Mk25 first and an R190 second. The R190
has a venturi assist, but you could just ignore it and leave it "on"
all the time. This isn't a standard configuratio from Scubapro, but
most shops will be happy to sell you the first and second stages
seperately.

You could also mate an Apeks TX40 second with a Scubapro Mk25 first.

Alan Street wrote:

>
> The closest would be a Scubapro Mk25 first and an R190 second. The R190
> has a venturi assist, but you could just ignore it and leave it "on"
> all the time. This isn't a standard configuratio from Scubapro, but
> most shops will be happy to sell you the first and second stages
> seperately.
>
> You could also mate an Apeks TX40 second with a Scubapro Mk25 first.

OK, I haven't been able to find a ready made configuration that matched
my criteria either, but thank you for your suggestion of assembling one
myself; I haven't tought of that before.
The R190 and the Apek both have an adjusyement knob outside the reg,
wich I find unacceptable for my application. Sherwood makes a second
stage, either the Blizzard or Oasis, that seems to match my criteria
(but they don't seems to offer a DIN first stage) would that be a good
match for the Scubapro MK25 first stage?

--
Martin.
"The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
T.H.Huxley

The Sherwood first stage can be changed over to DIN without a lot of
trouble. Its not an adapter, you have to remove parts and put others on. No
adjustments, no gadgets. I have never had any trouble, other than folks
telling me my first stage is 'leaking'. The only difference between the
Blizzard and the Oasis is the IP setting and the decal on the second stage
cover. My Blizzard cracks at about half an inch water column. Breathes well.
My backup second stage is detuned a bit. Lots of ports. Placement could be
better though. The bottom LP port is useless.

"MCL" <mako_city@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Lqmkb.6700$F31.481802@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Alan Street wrote:
>
> >
> > The closest would be a Scubapro Mk25 first and an R190 second. The R190
> > has a venturi assist, but you could just ignore it and leave it "on"
> > all the time. This isn't a standard configuratio from Scubapro, but
> > most shops will be happy to sell you the first and second stages
> > seperately.
> >
> > You could also mate an Apeks TX40 second with a Scubapro Mk25 first.
>
> OK, I haven't been able to find a ready made configuration that matched
> my criteria either, but thank you for your suggestion of assembling one
> myself; I haven't tought of that before.
> The R190 and the Apek both have an adjusyement knob outside the reg,
> wich I find unacceptable for my application. Sherwood makes a second
> stage, either the Blizzard or Oasis, that seems to match my criteria
> (but they don't seems to offer a DIN first stage) would that be a good
> match for the Scubapro MK25 first stage?
>
> --
> Martin.
> "The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
> T.H.Huxley
>

Jon C wrote:

> So what's the application? What are you going to be doing with *seven*
> hoses? Sounds like you're describing the Poseidon Xstream Dive 90. Sounds
> like you might be spamming specifically for that reg.
>
> So, do I win?
>
> Jon
>

I won't consider the Poseidon for many reasons, one of them being
economic, but thanks for the (weirdly formulated) suggestion.

--
Martin.
"The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
T.H.Huxley

"MCL" <mako_city@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:nHnkb.6722$F31.488959@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Rudy Benner wrote:
> The Blizzard was my first choice, unfortunately the dive shop I do
> business with told me it couldn't be made into a DIN; I researched the
> Sherwood website and found nothing, could you please expand on this?
>
> Also, you mentioned the bottom LP port as being useless, I need at least
> 4 LP port (second stage, octopus,bc and dry suit; even sometime an
> adapter for inflating lift bags, which would bring the required number
> of port to 5); I could do with 4 by using an octopus mounted on the BC
> hose or a Y adapter, but not with 3?
> Thank's.
> --
> Martin.
> "The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
> T.H.Huxley
>

Use the drysuit inflator to inflate bags, there's no need for a fifth HP
hose for that. Stick with the MK25 first and toss a Blizzard second stage
on it. You still get the 5th port if you really need it, too.

Jon

And 2 HP, do you use a SPG in a console, and a remote sensor for a computer?
be good backup incase one goes bad.
rhys

"MCL" <mako_city@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:_Nnkb.6723$F31.489399@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Jon C wrote:
>
> > So what's the application? What are you going to be doing with *seven*
> > hoses? Sounds like you're describing the Poseidon Xstream Dive 90.
Sounds
> > like you might be spamming specifically for that reg.
> >
> > So, do I win?
> >
> > Jon
> >
>
> I won't consider the Poseidon for many reasons, one of them being
> economic, but thanks for the (weirdly formulated) suggestion.
>
> --
> Martin.
> "The known is finite, The unknown infinite"
> T.H.Huxley
>

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:13:02 -0400, MCL <mako_city@nospamyahoo.com>
wrote:

>The R190 and the Apek both have an adjusyement knob outside the reg,

The T20 and TX40 have only the venturi. I think most all regs have
this much.



--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/

>From: MCL

>The R190 and the Apek both have an adjusyement knob outside the reg,
>wich I find unacceptable for my application

The dial a breaths & vent assists on well engineered regulators are not
gimmicks. They allow you to have a fine tuned reg that breaths great for most
diving & then you can dial it down a bit to control freeflow in high
current....whatever. They are not hard to use so your dislike of them is
puzzling.

RAL

MCL wrote:
>
> Alan Street wrote:
>
> >
> > The closest would be a Scubapro Mk25 first and an R190 second. The R190
> > has a venturi assist, but you could just ignore it and leave it "on"
> > all the time. This isn't a standard configuratio from Scubapro, but
> > most shops will be happy to sell you the first and second stages
> > seperately.
> >
> > You could also mate an Apeks TX40 second with a Scubapro Mk25 first.
>
> OK, I haven't been able to find a ready made configuration that matched
> my criteria either, but thank you for your suggestion of assembling one
> myself; I haven't tought of that before.
> The R190 and the Apek both have an adjusyement knob outside the reg,
> wich I find unacceptable for my application. Sherwood makes a second
> stage, either the Blizzard or Oasis, that seems to match my criteria
> (but they don't seems to offer a DIN first stage) would that be a good
> match for the Scubapro MK25 first stage?
>
>

The "adjustment" on the TX40 and the R190 are venturis, which should
make very little difference in any application. Neither of these knobs
controls anything in the valve assembly, so there's no worry about
changing cracking pressure or any other reliability issues. All they do
is move a vane that's in between the valve and the mouthpiece. If you
really wanted to, you could set them in the full "on" position, and
grind off the knob (although there would probably be some warranty
implications if you did that).