Drysuit advice

Harry,

Some people condemn the messenger because they don't like the message
or the method of delivery. While I'm not interested in calling anyone
a stroke, I have owned a neoprene drysuit and have been around several
others, and I know their drawbacks, especially foam neoprene suits. I
now own a DUI TLS 350, and there is simply no comparison.

-bob

On 28 Feb 2004 09:56:32 -0600, Harry Chestwig <allwet@scubanude.org>
wrote:

>Jammer Six <jammer@invalid.oz.net> nattered:
>
>>DUI TLS 350.
>>
>>Neoprene suits are for strokes.
>
>You're the kind of @sshole that gives GUI a bad name.
>
>Did you just learn the word "stroke"? I saw two posts
>where you didn't offer any reasoned advice, just the
>cr@p attitude. Welcome to my killfilter, kid.
>
>Don't forget, MOST of the folks out here have ZERO
>interest in your tech caving rigs and requirements.
>

Harry,

Some people condemn the messenger because they don't like the message
or the method of delivery. While I'm not interested in calling anyone
a stroke, I have owned a neoprene drysuit and have been around several
others, and I know their drawbacks, especially foam neoprene suits. I
now own a DUI TLS 350, and there is simply no comparison.

-bob

On 28 Feb 2004 09:56:32 -0600, Harry Chestwig <allwet@scubanude.org>
wrote:

>Jammer Six <jammer@invalid.oz.net> nattered:
>
>>DUI TLS 350.
>>
>>Neoprene suits are for strokes.
>
>You're the kind of @sshole that gives GUI a bad name.
>
>Did you just learn the word "stroke"? I saw two posts
>where you didn't offer any reasoned advice, just the
>cr@p attitude. Welcome to my killfilter, kid.
>
>Don't forget, MOST of the folks out here have ZERO
>interest in your tech caving rigs and requirements.
>

Harry,

Some people condemn the messenger because they don't like the message
or the method of delivery. While I'm not interested in calling anyone
a stroke, I have owned a neoprene drysuit and have been around several
others, and I know their drawbacks, especially foam neoprene suits. I
now own a DUI TLS 350, and there is simply no comparison.

-bob

On 28 Feb 2004 09:56:32 -0600, Harry Chestwig <allwet@scubanude.org>
wrote:

>Jammer Six <jammer@invalid.oz.net> nattered:
>
>>DUI TLS 350.
>>
>>Neoprene suits are for strokes.
>
>You're the kind of @sshole that gives GUI a bad name.
>
>Did you just learn the word "stroke"? I saw two posts
>where you didn't offer any reasoned advice, just the
>cr@p attitude. Welcome to my killfilter, kid.
>
>Don't forget, MOST of the folks out here have ZERO
>interest in your tech caving rigs and requirements.
>

Harry,

Some people condemn the messenger because they don't like the message
or the method of delivery. While I'm not interested in calling anyone
a stroke, I have owned a neoprene drysuit and have been around several
others, and I know their drawbacks, especially foam neoprene suits. I
now own a DUI TLS 350, and there is simply no comparison.

-bob

On 28 Feb 2004 09:56:32 -0600, Harry Chestwig <allwet@scubanude.org>
wrote:

>Jammer Six <jammer@invalid.oz.net> nattered:
>
>>DUI TLS 350.
>>
>>Neoprene suits are for strokes.
>
>You're the kind of @sshole that gives GUI a bad name.
>
>Did you just learn the word "stroke"? I saw two posts
>where you didn't offer any reasoned advice, just the
>cr@p attitude. Welcome to my killfilter, kid.
>
>Don't forget, MOST of the folks out here have ZERO
>interest in your tech caving rigs and requirements.
>

Harry,

Some people condemn the messenger because they don't like the message
or the method of delivery. While I'm not interested in calling anyone
a stroke, I have owned a neoprene drysuit and have been around several
others, and I know their drawbacks, especially foam neoprene suits. I
now own a DUI TLS 350, and there is simply no comparison.

-bob

On 28 Feb 2004 09:56:32 -0600, Harry Chestwig <allwet@scubanude.org>
wrote:

>Jammer Six <jammer@invalid.oz.net> nattered:
>
>>DUI TLS 350.
>>
>>Neoprene suits are for strokes.
>
>You're the kind of @sshole that gives GUI a bad name.
>
>Did you just learn the word "stroke"? I saw two posts
>where you didn't offer any reasoned advice, just the
>cr@p attitude. Welcome to my killfilter, kid.
>
>Don't forget, MOST of the folks out here have ZERO
>interest in your tech caving rigs and requirements.
>

Harry,

Some people condemn the messenger because they don't like the message
or the method of delivery. While I'm not interested in calling anyone
a stroke, I have owned a neoprene drysuit and have been around several
others, and I know their drawbacks, especially foam neoprene suits. I
now own a DUI TLS 350, and there is simply no comparison.

-bob

On 28 Feb 2004 09:56:32 -0600, Harry Chestwig <allwet@scubanude.org>
wrote:

>Jammer Six <jammer@invalid.oz.net> nattered:
>
>>DUI TLS 350.
>>
>>Neoprene suits are for strokes.
>
>You're the kind of @sshole that gives GUI a bad name.
>
>Did you just learn the word "stroke"? I saw two posts
>where you didn't offer any reasoned advice, just the
>cr@p attitude. Welcome to my killfilter, kid.
>
>Don't forget, MOST of the folks out here have ZERO
>interest in your tech caving rigs and requirements.
>

Harry,

Some people condemn the messenger because they don't like the message
or the method of delivery. While I'm not interested in calling anyone
a stroke, I have owned a neoprene drysuit and have been around several
others, and I know their drawbacks, especially foam neoprene suits. I
now own a DUI TLS 350, and there is simply no comparison.

-bob

On 28 Feb 2004 09:56:32 -0600, Harry Chestwig <allwet@scubanude.org>
wrote:

>Jammer Six <jammer@invalid.oz.net> nattered:
>
>>DUI TLS 350.
>>
>>Neoprene suits are for strokes.
>
>You're the kind of @sshole that gives GUI a bad name.
>
>Did you just learn the word "stroke"? I saw two posts
>where you didn't offer any reasoned advice, just the
>cr@p attitude. Welcome to my killfilter, kid.
>
>Don't forget, MOST of the folks out here have ZERO
>interest in your tech caving rigs and requirements.
>

On 28 Feb 2004 09:56:32 -0600, Harry Chestwig <allwet@scubanude.org>
wrote:

>Jammer Six <jammer@invalid.oz.net> nattered:
>
>>DUI TLS 350.
>>
>>Neoprene suits are for strokes.
>
>You're the kind of @sshole that gives GUI a bad name.
>
>Did you just learn the word "stroke"? I saw two posts
>where you didn't offer any reasoned advice, just the
>cr@p attitude. Welcome to my killfilter, kid.
>
>Don't forget, MOST of the folks out here have ZERO
>interest in your tech caving rigs and requirements.
>

Okay.

I've never been in a (real) cave
I've never been below 140ft
I've never used helium

Neoprene suits are for people who like to dive wetsuits.
They are nothing but a compromise for drysuits, and carry many of the
disadvantages of wetsuits with them, and offer no advantages over
shell.

They are heavy when wet.
They take forever to dry.
They are too buoyant.
Their buoyancy changes with depth.
They are more difficult to repair than a shell suit.

What works 2-miles back in a cave works at 80ft, provided the guy at
80ft does the same thing as the guy 2 miles back in the cave... only
takes what he needs.



--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/

On 28 Feb 2004 09:56:32 -0600, Harry Chestwig <allwet@scubanude.org>
wrote:

>Jammer Six <jammer@invalid.oz.net> nattered:
>
>>DUI TLS 350.
>>
>>Neoprene suits are for strokes.
>
>You're the kind of @sshole that gives GUI a bad name.
>
>Did you just learn the word "stroke"? I saw two posts
>where you didn't offer any reasoned advice, just the
>cr@p attitude. Welcome to my killfilter, kid.
>
>Don't forget, MOST of the folks out here have ZERO
>interest in your tech caving rigs and requirements.
>

Okay.

I've never been in a (real) cave
I've never been below 140ft
I've never used helium

Neoprene suits are for people who like to dive wetsuits.
They are nothing but a compromise for drysuits, and carry many of the
disadvantages of wetsuits with them, and offer no advantages over
shell.

They are heavy when wet.
They take forever to dry.
They are too buoyant.
Their buoyancy changes with depth.
They are more difficult to repair than a shell suit.

What works 2-miles back in a cave works at 80ft, provided the guy at
80ft does the same thing as the guy 2 miles back in the cave... only
takes what he needs.



--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/

On 28 Feb 2004 09:56:32 -0600, Harry Chestwig <allwet@scubanude.org>
wrote:

>Jammer Six <jammer@invalid.oz.net> nattered:
>
>>DUI TLS 350.
>>
>>Neoprene suits are for strokes.
>
>You're the kind of @sshole that gives GUI a bad name.
>
>Did you just learn the word "stroke"? I saw two posts
>where you didn't offer any reasoned advice, just the
>cr@p attitude. Welcome to my killfilter, kid.
>
>Don't forget, MOST of the folks out here have ZERO
>interest in your tech caving rigs and requirements.
>

Okay.

I've never been in a (real) cave
I've never been below 140ft
I've never used helium

Neoprene suits are for people who like to dive wetsuits.
They are nothing but a compromise for drysuits, and carry many of the
disadvantages of wetsuits with them, and offer no advantages over
shell.

They are heavy when wet.
They take forever to dry.
They are too buoyant.
Their buoyancy changes with depth.
They are more difficult to repair than a shell suit.

What works 2-miles back in a cave works at 80ft, provided the guy at
80ft does the same thing as the guy 2 miles back in the cave... only
takes what he needs.



--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/