Beginner recommendation: Dive Rite NiTek Duo or Suunto Vytec/Vyper?

Marcin Dobrucki <Marcin.Dobrucki@FAKE.nokia.com> wrote:
>> Aren't we a bit dramatic. Somehow I survived a few hundred dives on
>> Oceanic computers on profiles that while still within limits, would
>> have pressed the Suunto well beyond it's happy level.
>
> Good for you. I am totally unfamiliar with the Oceanic computers,
>but a visit to their website came up with:

Marcin, with all due respect, if you don't know the difference between
the pelagics (Oceanic, Aeris, others) and the Suunto line, I don't think
you're qualified to speak on the subject.

When the Vyper hits 0 on the clock, you haven't crossed over some magical
barrier of danger. Any dive that involves considerable time at considerable
depth has to be treated with caution. Or..put your brain away, get an
oceanic, and keep diving 10 more minutes!
--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com

David Scarlett wrote:

> The Oceanic computers are Pelagics, right? Those things never go into
> deco! A friend of mine has one, we always joke about it encouraging him
> to go deeper, stay longer and enter silty wrecks.

Hmmm... been using a Aeris Atmos Pro for about 3 years. Take it into
deco on every dive (multi-stops). Never a problem.

> As for 10 mins at 15ft, I'd consider that a bit more than a mild
> violation...

Violation of....

> Though I absolutely agree that all dives are decompression
> dives, but those untrained and ill-equipped should not be doing dives
> where omitting stops is likely to result in a bend.

I wonder how people like Lee, Bullshark and EGS survived all those
pre-computer years of diving....

"TonyP" <arpierre@hooptonline.net> wrote in message
news:6SAac.170539$LX.24946492@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net...
> David Scarlett wrote:
>
> > The Oceanic computers are Pelagics, right? Those things never go into
> > deco! A friend of mine has one, we always joke about it encouraging him
> > to go deeper, stay longer and enter silty wrecks.
>
> Hmmm... been using a Aeris Atmos Pro for about 3 years. Take it into
> deco on every dive (multi-stops). Never a problem.
>
> > As for 10 mins at 15ft, I'd consider that a bit more than a mild
> > violation...
>
> Violation of....
>
> > Though I absolutely agree that all dives are decompression
> > dives, but those untrained and ill-equipped should not be doing dives
> > where omitting stops is likely to result in a bend.
>
> I wonder how people like Lee, Bullshark and EGS survived all those
> pre-computer years of diving....

Brain damaged.

On 31 Mar 2004 10:10:53 GMT, David Scarlett <look@my.signature> wrote:

>Rich Lockyer <rlockyer@linkline.DONTSPAMME.com> wrote in
>news:98ik60t5v5gleo0dm4h686mfdqaeiuq4i4@4ax.com :
>
>> IOTW, given that the computer is very conservative, you don't see a
>> problem with a Suunto violation that either would not violate a
>> Pelagic, or perhaps a mild violation (10 minutes at 15ft, etc...)
>
>The Oceanic computers are Pelagics, right? Those things never go into
>deco! A friend of mine has one, we always joke about it encouraging him
>to go deeper, stay longer and enter silty wrecks.

LOL!
I think my Suunto has a direct connection to the asshole-tightening
muscle when the Cozumel swim-through gets a little snug :)

>As for 10 mins at 15ft, I'd consider that a bit more than a mild
>violation...

'Course it could be done on 200psi... and don't forget, we are talking
about a Suunto, which seems to jump directly to 7 if it doesn't clear
itself on the way up.
Kinda like Suunto Degrees being 2-3 off from reality (we joke about
the dive being 53^S, or 51^F on the local boards)... Suunto deco times
are higher than reality too :)

>Though I absolutely agree that all dives are decompression
>dives, but those untrained and ill-equipped should not be doing dives
>where omitting stops is likely to result in a bend.

So avoid Pelagics :)



--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/

TonyP <arpierre@hooptonline.net> wrote in
news:6SAac.170539$LX.24946492@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net :

> Hmmm... been using a Aeris Atmos Pro for about 3 years. Take it
> into deco on every dive (multi-stops). Never a problem.

Not familiar with them... My friend has the Oceanic Versa...

> Violation of....

I don't think you've been following this thread...

> I wonder how people like Lee, Bullshark and EGS survived all those
> pre-computer years of diving....

See above.


--
David Scarlett

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