Purge valves in masks

> Finally, and this is more important than most will admit, having a purge
> valve is one of several factors that tends to identify its owner, to the
> most experienced divers, as a relative novice. This sounds like vanity,
but
> it tends to be more important that that. Those not accepted as
experienced,
> tend not to be invited to do more interesting dives.
>
> Lee
>
>
That is the dumbest thing I have ever read on this newsgroup!!!!
I've been diving over 20 years with well over 1000 dives, and I love my
purge valve mask!
Bill

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> Finally, and this is more important than most will admit, having a purge
> valve is one of several factors that tends to identify its owner, to the
> most experienced divers, as a relative novice. This sounds like vanity, but
> it tends to be more important that that. Those not accepted as experienced,
> tend not to be invited to do more interesting dives.
>
> Lee

Lee, that last part is frankly garbage. I've had my Oceanmaster mask for years and
never has anoyone commented on the purge valve. In fact I don't think anyone notices
or cares that there is a purge valve in the nose of the mask. I've never seen anyone
rejected from a dive because of type of gear. This comment is gear
chauvinism--"anyone who does not conform to my style of gear is treated as a newbie".

Adam

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> "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> > Finally, and this is more important than most will admit, having a purge
> > valve is one of several factors that tends to identify its owner, to the
> > most experienced divers, as a relative novice. This sounds like vanity,
> but
> > it tends to be more important that that. Those not accepted as
> experienced,
> > tend not to be invited to do more interesting dives.
> >
> > Lee
>
> "Virginia" climbed the ladder of the dive boat. Her breasts kept her from
> getting close to rungs with her upper torso and her head was cocked back
> extending the curve in her body. As she mounted the steps the low cut
> bikini top heaved from side to side like pendulums attached to bright orange
> straps. Her slim figure reached the dive platform where she stood erect -
> the weight of the tank appearing to be counterbalanced with her anatomy.
>
> Lee, ever the gentleman, approached Virginia to get a better look. "I see
> you have a purge valve," says Lee.
> "Yes, so?"
> "That indicates you are a relative novice."
> "Oh!"
> "The experienced divers and I are going for an interesting dive at the next
> site. Sorry, but I can't invite you because you have a purge valve in your
> mask."
> "Really?"
> Lee is firm now, "That's correct. If you had a mask without a purge valve
> we could do the interesting dive together."
> Virginia, still somewhat surprised, now sarcastic, says "Bummer! But, I'm
> sure it's not the end of the world."
> Lee, realizing that something is amiss, looks down and says, "But you do
> have a couple of things going for you. I like those Mares fins."

Great reply. I like the part with Lee getting firm. But then the purge mask--what a
drooper. Wait, then Lee gets firm again at the sight of the fins. Such suspense--will
Lee be firm or not?

Adam

In article <3SLQc.2301$nx2.337@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
before the rest of the mask. You do, however, have to keep them clean.
>
> Finally, and this is more important than most will admit, having a purge
> valve is one of several factors that tends to identify its owner, to the
> most experienced divers, as a relative novice. This sounds like vanity, but
> it tends to be more important that that. Those not accepted as experienced,
> tend not to be invited to do more interesting dives.
>
> Lee
>
>
Even if I have a long hose. You mean after all these years i'm still a
stroke?

--
I plan my sleep and sleep my plan

>"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>> Finally, and this is more important than most will admit, having a purge
>> valve is one of several factors that tends to identify its owner, to the
>> most experienced divers, as a relative novice. This sounds like vanity, but
>> it tends to be more important that that. Those not accepted as experienced,
>> tend not to be invited to do more interesting dives.

I'm glad to see everyone is having a little fun at your expense on this one, Lee.

I think what we've really seen is that purge hatred is a factor that identifies
an old crusty diver who dates back to the days when purge masks failed quickly,
and is perhaps a diver too old to relate to.

I've forgiven lots of split fin wearers, which is a far greater sign of experience
and or fitness. Course, I usually don't want a buddy.
--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com

Karl Denninger wrote:
> I don't see why a purge valve in a mask is of value.
>
If you wear contact lenses and your mask floods, the lens will probably
still be in the mask when you clear it if you have a purge valve. If not
it's going to be hard to find, even in a pool.

"Jason O'Rourke" <jor@soda.csua.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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> >"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >> Finally, and this is more important than most will admit, having a purge
> >> valve is one of several factors that tends to identify its owner, to the
> >> most experienced divers, as a relative novice. This sounds like vanity, but
> >> it tends to be more important that that. Those not accepted as experienced,
> >> tend not to be invited to do more interesting dives.
>
> I'm glad to see everyone is having a little fun at your expense on this one, Lee.
>
> I think what we've really seen is that purge hatred is a factor that identifies
> an old crusty diver who dates back to the days when purge masks failed quickly,
> and is perhaps a diver too old to relate to.

Your explanation may be right, as I recall when I first took a diving course in
university we were taught that about purge-valve masks. The masks were made of black
rubber and we were advised not to tear the rubber seal that opened the purge valve.

>
> I've forgiven lots of split fin wearers, which is a far greater sign of experience
> and or fitness. Course, I usually don't want a buddy.
> --
> Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com