Back Inflation BCD

>From: "brad@The Deep End" REMOVEwebmaster@deepend.on.ca

>Alternatively, you could go with your run-of-the-mill homemade BCD... a
>little webbing, a backplate and some tinkering and you have a BCD that is
>exactly custom to your needs. Seems to be a popular thing among some groups.
>From what I hear, pretty in-expensive as well.

Oh.

My.

God.

How long have you been diving?


Popeye
Self improvement is masterbation. Self
destruction is the answer. Tyler Durden

In article <20040911192634.10848.00003531@mb-m25.aol.com>, Popeye NCAT3
<buzcutt454@aol.comByteMe> wrote:

€ >From: "brad@The Deep End" REMOVEwebmaster@deepend.on.ca
€
€ >Alternatively, you could go with your run-of-the-mill homemade BCD... a
€ >little webbing, a backplate and some tinkering and you have a BCD that is
€ >exactly custom to your needs. Seems to be a popular thing among some groups.
€ >From what I hear, pretty in-expensive as well.
€
€ Oh.
€
€ My.
€
€ God.
€
€ How long have you been diving?
€
€

I wonder if the owner of The Deep End knows this guy is trashing his
shop's reputation.

Andy K. wrote:

> So far I've seen the Ranger and a Black Diamond. Don't care much for the
> ripcord system used in the Ranger. Black Diamond uses clips and bags. I like
> the setup on the Transpac, but the cost is step.
>
> Any comments?
> Andy K.
>
>

I don't understand why the ripcord weight system is such a big negative
to some people. I have used mine exactly once - when I deployed my
weights unto the dive shops floor when I tested out the deployment
system prior to purchasing my bcd some years back. If you are capable
of lacing your shoes, you are capable of lacing the system back to
original operating conditions in a few minutes time. It is also very
easy to unzip the pockets and pull the mesh weight bags (yep, these were
extra $) out whenever you'd like as well. I have never lost any of my
weights unintentionally as some with those velcro pocket jobs have done,
either. I concede that it may be possible to lose a small soft weight
if you don't use the mesh weight bags, however.

I'd get the bcd that best fits you and supports your present and planned
diving needs. What's the extra cost for something that accomodates
the way you like to dive amount to when you prorate it over your usage
over the next 5 to 10 years?

"greatviz" <greatviz@noescapeNOTSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:2qj7nsF105opoU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
>
> Andy K. wrote:
>
> > So far I've seen the Ranger and a Black Diamond. Don't care much for the
> > ripcord system used in the Ranger. Black Diamond uses clips and bags. I
like
> > the setup on the Transpac, but the cost is step.
> >
> > Any comments?
> > Andy K.
> >
> >
>
> I don't understand why the ripcord weight system is such a big negative
> to some people. I have used mine exactly once - when I deployed my
> weights unto the dive shops floor when I tested out the deployment
> system prior to purchasing my bcd some years back. If you are capable
> of lacing your shoes, you are capable of lacing the system back to
> original operating conditions in a few minutes time. It is also very
> easy to unzip the pockets and pull the mesh weight bags (yep, these were
> extra $) out whenever you'd like as well. I have never lost any of my
> weights unintentionally as some with those velcro pocket jobs have done,
> either. I concede that it may be possible to lose a small soft weight
> if you don't use the mesh weight bags, however.
>
> I'd get the bcd that best fits you and supports your present and planned
> diving needs. What's the extra cost for something that accomodates
> the way you like to dive amount to when you prorate it over your usage
> over the next 5 to 10 years?
>

To each their own. I can lace and tie my shoes and sometimes like to take
them off one at a time. That could become overly complicated if they were
secured with a ripcord system and you were not the one managing your gear
(as in an emergency situation).

FWIW, I'm a side scan sonar operator for the company I work for. If called
upon to go and do a visual on what we see on the screen, I'd prefer to have
the simplest cleanest rig I can use. That is why I'm leaning towards the DIR
rigs.

Thanks for your input. I'm not in a hurry to buy anything as I can use the
shops gear as long as I like.

Andy K.

>From: "Andy K." Krapchaa@bellsouth.net

>To each their own. I can lace and tie my shoes and sometimes like to take
>them off one at a time. That could become overly complicated if they were
>secured with a ripcord system and you were not the one managing your gear
>(as in an emergency situation).
>
>FWIW, I'm a side scan sonar operator for the company I work for. If called
>upon to go and do a visual on what we see on the screen, I'd prefer to have
>the simplest cleanest rig I can use. That is why I'm leaning towards the DIR
>rigs.
>
>Thanks for your input. I'm not in a hurry to buy anything as I can use the
>shops gear as long as I like.
>
>Andy K.


Where do you live?


Popeye
"God, God, why did you put so many assholes
in the world at the same time?" Major Santini

Andy K. wrote:

> "greatviz"
>>
>>I don't understand why the ripcord weight system is such a big negative
>>to some people. I have used mine exactly once - when I deployed my
>>weights unto the dive shops floor when I tested out the deployment
>>system prior to purchasing my bcd some years back. If you are capable
>>of lacing your shoes, you are capable of lacing the system back to
>>original operating conditions in a few minutes time. It is also very
>>easy to unzip the pockets and pull the mesh weight bags (yep, these were
>>extra $) out whenever you'd like as well. I have never lost any of my
>>weights unintentionally as some with those velcro pocket jobs have done,
>>either. I concede that it may be possible to lose a small soft weight
>>if you don't use the mesh weight bags, however.
>>
>>I'd get the bcd that best fits you and supports your present and planned
>> diving needs. What's the extra cost for something that accomodates
>>the way you like to dive amount to when you prorate it over your usage
>>over the next 5 to 10 years?
>>
>
>
> To each their own. I can lace and tie my shoes and sometimes like to take
> them off one at a time. That could become overly complicated if they were
> secured with a ripcord system and you were not the one managing your gear
> (as in an emergency situation).

I can unzip a pocket and remove one shoe at a time as well ;)

> FWIW, I'm a side scan sonar operator for the company I work for. If called
> upon to go and do a visual on what we see on the screen, I'd prefer to have
> the simplest cleanest rig I can use.

The dive shops in my area seem loaded with big pocketed behemoths, I've
been looking for a minimalist tropical travel bcd and haven't found
anything I want to own yet. If it needs an "adapter" to dive single
tanks, then I figure it's not done right either.

That is why I'm leaning towards the DIR
> rigs.

Well, since you were looking at the Eagle z-1, Ranger, and a Black
Diamond, which are rather bulky, weight integrated, and have the dreaded
plastic quick release buckles, I had no idea you were considering a DIR rig.
Looks like you've already gotten a few good suggestions for a BP/wing.

> Thanks for your input. I'm not in a hurry to buy anything as I can use the
> shops gear as long as I like.

I must not be in any hurry either, I've been "kind of looking" around
for a couple of months but wind up just breaking out my Zeagle.

> Andy K.
>
>